WATERGate: Shame on the Traitors in ...

WATERGate: Shame on the Traitors in this State

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FishesAndLoaves

AOL

#1 Jan 18, 2014
This is a reminder to ALL of those involved that have covered up, shut up, and put up with the criminals in this water fiasco...

Those of you who have betrayed your own family, neighbors, and co-workers and fellow West Virginians - all for a buck. Nothing more than a bunch of cowards, benedict arnolds, and Judases.

Shame. Shame. Shame on you.

You know who you are...and so do we.

Just like 4-MCHM rises to the surface, so does the TRUTH - and God will reveal it ALL before it is ALL said and done.
GTS

Forest Hills, KY

#2 Jan 18, 2014
Is it not wonderful for the people behind this mess will not face any consequences? For those of you not in the know, here is what happened.

Freedom Industries has only existed since December 31, 2013 as the result of a merger, and filed for bankruptcy on January 17, 2014.

A company by the name of "Mountaineer Funding, LLC" will be providing Freedom Industries with its bankruptcy financing.

Mountaineer Funding, LLC didn't exist before January 17, 2014, when it was incorporated by a man named J. Clifford Forrest, who just happens to share the name of the current owner of the now bankrupt Freedom Industries.

According to the takeover paperwork, however, the negotiations occurred in "good faith and at arm's length."

So basically this guy gets to keep the company and all its assets, and all the lawsuits and liability just magically go away because of the bankruptcy! Meanwhile, Gov. Tomblin, Sen. Manchin, and Rep. Capito just can't stop fellating that sweet coal industry cock.
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Atomic Gentile

Louisa, VA

#4 Jan 19, 2014
Money can shut a politicians mouth fast. It is obvious that people were bought off and then they tell everybody that it's safe to drink the water. Do you think that "they're" drinkin' this water?
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FishTales

AOL

#6 Jan 19, 2014
Obviously, we are not going to receive the assistance that we need from the State (gov't), so WE THE PEOPLE are going to have to do this ourselves. Although, the State did go in and take control of the Ravenswood Water Plant last year. If they could do it for them, then they certainly could do it for Charleston.

But alas, that green god (M-O-N-E-Y) is just too tempting to pass up. What else could it possibly be for the inaction and passive behavior of those who are supposed to SERVE US AND BE GOVERNED BY US. The People are the ones who are supposed to CONTROL the government, NOT the other way.

We need to collect a PETITION of names, individuals who care enough to rectify the situation. For every problem, there is a solution. Let's make it happen.

Whether at the CITY level or the COUNTY level, if we pursue the action of another entity to take control of the plant, it would obviously benefit ALL 9 COUNTIES involved.

There are former employees of the water plant, native West Virginians, who most definitely know how to operate that plant better than what is running it now. No doubt. Get those fine folks back in action or draft some folks from out-of-state or the private sector. Find someone who gives a damn about humanity.

And then let's MOVE the EXTRACTION POINT from its current location (swimming in contaminated water and downstream from the chemical facility) TO a CLEAN LOCATION UPRIVER (above the chemical plant).

Garbage In = Garbage Out

CLEAN WATER IN = CLEAN WATER OUT!!

Finally, word on the street has it that this solution was discussed and shot down due to "THE DIAMETER OF THE PIPE would not be sufficient for the PRESSURE needed.)"

Really? Then utilize multiple pipes for intake and then configure equipment (and pumps) that converge to build up the pressure needed.

Pipe could have been laid on the riverbanks, rocks, submerged, suspended, on barges, across land, etc.

I don't buy the obstacles and opposing viewpoints that they present. "It doesn't hold water" in my book.(No pun intended.)

This state is full of engineers, both chemical and civil. Where are they? Why hasn't someone stepped up to the plate (and the microphone) and given us the truth, real answers, and real solutions?

All of this (collateral) damage could have been avoided or at least minimized were it not for the negligent, irresponsible, and culpable
actions of the Water Company.

I hold them 100% responsible in this matter:

A. For not taking preventive measures in the first place by having the initiative to reroute the extraction point (years ago) in order to prevent such a disaster. Knowing a potential health risk is sitting upstream from the plant and not circumventing that was nothing more than playing a game of russian roulette.

B. For NOT have RESERVE supplies of fresh, clean water stored in facilities for just this (or another) type of situation. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of manure.

Think of it as a chess game people, this thing called "life". Before you make a move, you better consider all of the consequences and possible outcomes of that move (4-5 turns into it.)

Prudence, wisdom, precaution, initiative are all just a few of the virtues and attributes necessary to survive in this world. For those of us who try to live by those standards, it is extremely frustrating when our "fate" is left in the hands of those who are less competent, less intelligent, and less concerned.

Shame on everyone who was derelict in their duty, negligent in their actions, and culpable in their part in this fiasco. It was a simple solution, all you had to do was be honest and do the right thing.
seekerofthetruth

Saint Albans, WV

#7 Jan 19, 2014
seekerofthetruth

Saint Albans, WV

#8 Jan 19, 2014
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FishTales

AOL

#11 Jan 19, 2014
Just connecting the dots...

I couldn't understand why I was being inundated with news reports of Chris Christie, Bridgegate, and the mess he has gotten himself into in the Garden State (New Jersey). Anytime I turned on the national news (which is often)- that's all that was on...coverage about Chris Christie and New Jersey.

I didn't get why I was being bombarded with it while there was a minimum amount of coverage about us folk down here in WV with our water debacle.

However, I knew God was trying to tell me something by cramming all that NJ coverage on the TV...

American Water is headquarted in Voorhees, NJ. Coincidence? Probably not.

Just remember folks, the state of New Jersey isn't immune to calamitous events (Remember Sandy?) and they have chemical plants all over their state, too.

I always liked the Gov of Jersey - until I saw that embrace on the Jersey Shore back in '12. Now that, I will never forget.

Now, I really don't want to end my love affair with the garden state, but unless they (or at least one of their companies-american water) come to the rescue of another state in need (as a result of that company's negligence), then I have no other choice but to take that state off of my valentine, and prayer, list.
Mark

Forest Hills, KY

#12 Jan 19, 2014
You won't see this in the mainstream news, because

1.) CNN/MSNBC are to busy talking about Chris Christie.

2.) Fox News will not touch this with a 10 foot pole, because it brings to light just how much corruption corporations can get away with, and just how much more regulations are needed.
GoneFishin

AOL

#13 Jan 20, 2014
Atomic Gentile wrote:

"Money can shut a politicians mouth fast. It is obvious that people were bought off and then they tell everybody that it's safe to drink the water. Do you think that "they're" drinkin' this water?"

No, I don't. But then again, neither am I (and a whole lot of other people.)

I can't help but think of that scene in the movie "Erin Brokovich" when the legal team from PSE&G visited the small law firm where she worked. It was quite "rich" when Julia Roberts scared the hell out of them when she made the statement that the water they were serving and drinking at the conference table was directly from Hinkley (the town that was so adversely affected by the chromium in the water supply).
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Shame on all

Charleston, WV

#16 Jan 20, 2014
To all of the above commentors do me a favor please and just.....

Get over it! And just STFU!

Go ahead take you a nice shower or dare I say bubble bath relax take a deep breath and repeat after me

It wasn't that big a deal
It wasn't that big a deal

I said I wasn't going to post anymore, but you morons just can't let it go. My god it's over move on already!

I swear my hand to God a nice bubble bath will do you fools wonders.

Take your clothes off stand in front a full lenght mirror and take inventory of your body parts and I bet you have every one you had prior to the incident and no new ones. Really go ahead and look

Geez!

@Gone fishin

Comparing this little tiny mishap with a hollywood movie? really? Dude you sound pretty ignorant to me.
GoneFishin

AOL

#17 Jan 20, 2014
"Shame on all" - you are 100% certifiable. How did you manage to escape the outer gates of Highland?

If you were foolish enough to chug that water and take that bubble bath, then...

We'll remember you - after your bowels fall out, you have had a colostomy and are sitting every wednesday having kidney dialysis.

That will certainly "shut you up", or to be more accurate, "open you up".
Seth

Forest Hills, KY

#18 Jan 20, 2014
Shame on all wrote:
To all of the above commentors do me a favor please and just.....
Get over it! And just STFU!
Go ahead take you a nice shower or dare I say bubble bath relax take a deep breath and repeat after me
It wasn't that big a deal
It wasn't that big a deal
I said I wasn't going to post anymore, but you morons just can't let it go. My god it's over move on already!
I swear my hand to God a nice bubble bath will do you fools wonders.
Take your clothes off stand in front a full lenght mirror and take inventory of your body parts and I bet you have every one you had prior to the incident and no new ones. Really go ahead and look
Geez!
@Gone fishin
Comparing this little tiny mishap with a hollywood movie? really? Dude you sound pretty ignorant to me.
Shame on all wrote:
To all of the above commentors do me a favor please and just.....
Get over it! And just STFU!
Go ahead take you a nice shower or dare I say bubble bath relax take a deep breath and repeat after me
It wasn't that big a deal
It wasn't that big a deal
I said I wasn't going to post anymore, but you morons just can't let it go. My god it's over move on already!
I swear my hand to God a nice bubble bath will do you fools wonders.
Take your clothes off stand in front a full lenght mirror and take inventory of your body parts and I bet you have every one you had prior to the incident and no new ones. Really go ahead and look
Geez!
@Gone fishin
Comparing this little tiny mishap with a hollywood movie? really? Dude you sound pretty ignorant to me.
I'm sorry, "tiny little mishap?" "Not a big deal?"

Building a toxic storage facility on a river.

Not a single inspection since 1991.

Causing dozens to go to the ER, and hundreds to become ill.

Costing businesses thousands per day.

Causing a major inconvenience to the public.

This man managed to do what Al qaeda can only dream of, weaseled his way out of any lawsuits, and now having the taxpayers foot the bill.

Yes, clearly people are just overreacting. You're either an idiot, or something far worse, a libertarian.
Poisoned Water

Mount Hope, WV

#19 Jan 20, 2014
FishesAndLoaves wrote:
This is a reminder to ALL of those involved that have covered up, shut up, and put up with the criminals in this water fiasco...
Those of you who have betrayed your own family, neighbors, and co-workers and fellow West Virginians - all for a buck. Nothing more than a bunch of cowards, benedict arnolds, and Judases.
Shame. Shame. Shame on you.
You know who you are...and so do we.
Just like 4-MCHM rises to the surface, so does the TRUTH - and God will reveal it ALL before it is ALL said and done.
"Mass murder on a grand scale" is what some cancer researchers are calling the chemical spill in Lochgelly WV that has been ignored by the WVDEP for the past several years.

Hydraulic fracking chemicals have been leaking from the large sediment pits in Lochgelly WV at a waste disposal site and going directly into Wolf Creek for several years. Dozens of scientists from other states have been testing the water and what they are finding is alarming.

The ARSENIC and RADIUM levels in Wolf Creek water closest to the leaking sediment pits is thousands of times higher than the federal EPA safety limit.

While WVDEP continues to deny the water and air pollution being caused by the hydraulic fracking wastewater that are being hauled in and dumped as well as injected underground, the fish are dying - and so are the people! Fayette County now has the highest Leukemia rate in West Virginia!

Even though a public hearing was held in June of 2013 in which evidence of the water pollution was presented, the WVDEP continues to allow the company that is violating state and federal laws to operate the frack dump without a permit.

Greedy politicians are getting paid off while innocent families are getting sick from arsenic and benzene poisoning!!!

I found a website that has some photos and videos of the Lochgelly frack dump. It does not have the most recent findings posted yet. It is called www.DirtyWaterWV.com .
Historian

Charleston, WV

#20 Jan 20, 2014
When the old water plant was in operation, there were 3 intakes: One at the plant. One up near Coonskin Park, and one on the Kanawha River. When the new water plant was built, they abandoned these intakes.

I also blame the water company for this issue: They could have stopped the intake for 12 hours or so. The water tanks on all the hilltops had plenty of water, not counting the water company itself. They could have called for emergency water rationing for 12 hours or so while the chemical flowed past the plant. Longer is necessary. There was enough water for sanitation in the tanks.
truthy

Belle, WV

#21 Jan 20, 2014
I believe that also historian-----and I do blame freedom entirely for the leak----one thing I do have against the water company is why this chemical wasn't tested for in the first place-----the elk is our water and it should have been testing for anything that could get into the elk river at any point.....j/s
seekerofthetruth

Saint Albans, WV

#22 Jan 21, 2014
"Shame on all", Hey bone head. It's called " NOT KNOWING THE LONG TERM EFFECTS OF THIS STUFF". Can you read? Look at the MSDS. It wasn't entirely shown on the news. Are you willing to suffer later on, for your ignorance now? We didn't know that varsol, and asbestos killed people until years later, so why not demand answers now? It's called " not happy being one of the sheep, and hold people responsible.
Get Tested

Mount Hope, WV

#23 Jan 21, 2014
The sad truth of the matter is that your water supply has most likely been contaminated for years with those deadly chemicals. The WVDEP does plenty of testing but won't inform the public about that they have found. At least, that has been the case for the Fayette Plateau area. The leaking sediment pits in Lochgelly has been kept a huge secret for years because the natural gas industry and state politicians benefit financially by allowing hydraulic fracking to take place in our state. Not sure why the WVDEP, Office of Oil and Gas thought that dumping frack waste on top of the drinking water supply was a good idea in the first place - but I'm certain it all comes down to BIG MONEY!!!

Get your blood and urine tested for that chemical immediately. Perhaps they can also tell you how long it has been in your system. Some folks in our area have been testing positive for chronic BENZENE and ARSENIC poisoning!

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