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human

Ravenswood, WV

#54 Nov 27, 2013
sempron wrote:
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You're still missing the point, bub. I am in this situation because of the choices SHE MADE...along with other taxpayers. What did I do to deserve footing the bill for her poor decisions? I had nothing to do with it. Does she have a roof over their heads? Food on the table? You're welcome. But now that she wants us to foot yet another bill, I'm drawing the line. How about breaking the cycle and teach these kids about personal responsibility. That would be the best Christmas present they ever got. Not going to happen, though. They'll probably have 8 or 9 kids each when they're older.
Take a valium. If not for God's grace, you could be in her situation, too. And, you could still end up in a difficult situation through accident or illness where you need others' help and compassion. Stop being so heartless and move on to your next outrage. Don't tempt the God that you Republicans always claim is on your side.
human

Ravenswood, WV

#55 Nov 27, 2013
sempron wrote:
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You're still missing the point, bub. I am in this situation because of the choices SHE MADE...along with other taxpayers. What did I do to deserve footing the bill for her poor decisions? I had nothing to do with it. Does she have a roof over their heads? Food on the table? You're welcome. But now that she wants us to foot yet another bill, I'm drawing the line. How about breaking the cycle and teach these kids about personal responsibility. That would be the best Christmas present they ever got. Not going to happen, though. They'll probably have 8 or 9 kids each when they're older.
Bub.
human

Ravenswood, WV

#56 Nov 27, 2013
right of way streaming wrote:
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The money from charities comes from donations, not taxpayers. You're not even discussing the topic at hand, which is someone asking for help for the holidays. You are taking issue with the way she lives her life. That is not what this is about and it is inappropriate for you to criticize. Who are you to tell her what's right and what's wrong? Oh, and one more thing, when you throw in a "She's probably got an iphone, nails professionally done...etc" you're already lost the argument. You can't win an argument on an assumption.
Republicans have to make all their statements about the poor based on assumptions. They can't use facts because, as you said, they don't know them. They have to make the immature assumption that ALL poor people are lazy, undeserving bums because if they made all their statements based on the logical and mature fact that that is not true, they couldn't lump the poor all into one category and label them the way they do. They'd have to admit that they don't care about the ones who are legitimately getting assistance and those who are only going to get it for a temporary period of time. They'd have to admit that the only thing they get a sadistic thrill from is bashing and hating the poor. Even this guy, who thinks he's Mister Intellect is not going to admit to his poorly thought out argument.

Since: Oct 11

Saint Albans, WV

#57 Nov 27, 2013
There's a difference between having 1 or 2 kids and having FIVE! And you still think republicans are the evil rich white men who despise the filthy poor. You couldn't be more wrong. There's always more poverty under a democratic government. Democrat lawmakers are elitists, and you people are just their pawns. A true republican (not as many of these as their used to be) believes in personal responsibility and economic freedom to make your own way in life. If you choose to do the bare minimum, then that's up to you. If you want to work hard and live the American dream, that's up to you too. Democrats just want everyone poor and dependant on big gov't while the fat cats live the high life. If you can't see what they are doing, then I feel sorry for you. To be honest, it's not your fault. You never had a chance once your parents enrolled you in the gov't indoctrination system.

Since: Oct 11

Saint Albans, WV

#58 Nov 27, 2013
By the way...the very socialists you're defending are trying to do away with Christmas altogether. If your kind had their way, this topic would even exist.
human

Ravenswood, WV

#59 Nov 27, 2013
You make so many ridiculous generalizations. I thought you were intelligent, but I'm beginning to have second thoughts about that. ALWAYS more poverty under the Dems? Ridiculous. I can start with the depression under Republican Hoover and the New Deal recovery under Dem FDR without even doing any research. There was record prosperity under Clinton and economic disaster under both Bushes. Why do you think George Sr. wasn't reelected? I could go on, but that statement of yours was just inaccurate...to be kind. Democrats elitists? Most corporate types are Republicans and you can't get any more elitist, self-absorbed and self-serving than they are. Dems believe in personal responsibility and economic freedoms too. That's why most of them work, have jobs and want their companies to make good profits so they can keep their jobs. Most Dems work in the for profit field, not the non-profit area. And, what an immature argument that Dems want everyone poor and dependent on gov't. That's the problems with you Repubs. You're arguments are immature enough to fool the unthinking lemmings that make up the followers of your party (think Fox News watchers), but when you try them on someone who pays even a little attention to what's going on in the world, they usually don't work. And, there's no danger of Christmas going away as long as the greedy, materialistic Republicans are at the top of all the corporations trying to sell us stuff.
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Since: Oct 11

Saint Albans, WV

#61 Nov 27, 2013
Clinton just so happened to be president during the dot com economic wave. I guess if that's your reasoning, you should give credit to Gore. He's the one that invented the internet, lol! The Clinton administration did, however, manage to oversee programs that helped predatory lenders loan money to unqualified home buyers. This led to the housing bust, which was in full effect by the time Bush took office. Couple that with 9-11 terror attacks (which happened in part because of Clinton's failed foreign policy) and any sane person could see why Bush had a rough 8 years.

I'm not taking up for Bush, though. Why? Because his spending was astronomical. Nothing even close to what Obama has spent, but astronomical nonetheless.

And here's a link to a study of dem-controlled states vs rep-controlled states. I know you won't read it (can't read with blinders on) but it basically shows how republican-led states offer more freedoms, opportunity, and prosperity.

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/07/64934-republi...

The democrats don't help the poor...they create them.

Since: Nov 13

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#62 Nov 27, 2013
Not Sure But You Should Just Call Around!
human

Ravenswood, WV

#63 Nov 27, 2013
sempron wrote:
Clinton just so happened to be president during the dot com economic wave. I guess if that's your reasoning, you should give credit to Gore. He's the one that invented the internet, lol! The Clinton administration did, however, manage to oversee programs that helped predatory lenders loan money to unqualified home buyers. This led to the housing bust, which was in full effect by the time Bush took office. Couple that with 9-11 terror attacks (which happened in part because of Clinton's failed foreign policy) and any sane person could see why Bush had a rough 8 years.
I'm not taking up for Bush, though. Why? Because his spending was astronomical. Nothing even close to what Obama has spent, but astronomical nonetheless.
And here's a link to a study of dem-controlled states vs rep-controlled states. I know you won't read it (can't read with blinders on) but it basically shows how republican-led states offer more freedoms, opportunity, and prosperity.
http://www.ijreview.com/2013/07/64934-republi...
The democrats don't help the poor...they create them.
Regarding the things I posted about Clinton and the other Dems, I was just giving examples in response to your post about poverty ALWAYS being greater under Dem presidents. In actuality, I don't believe the economy's strength has much to do with the party that is in the White House. I've said that since I started paying attention to politics during the Carter administration. I usually just try to respond to Repubs claims when they try to give credit to the Republican president for a great economy when he's in office (Reagan) while saying he's not responsible when the economy is bad (both Bushes). Or when they say the Dem president is responsible when the economy is bad (Carter) or that he shouldn't get credit when it's good (Clinton). You know, like you did above by saying Clinton didn't deserve credit for the good economy while he was pres., but W wasn't responsible for what happened during his term (like 9-11).I believe, for the most part, it's a cycle that will occur regardless of who's in office. And, I'm amazed that you'd want to compare Dem led states to Rep led ones since almost all the ten poorest states are in the Republican South.
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Since: Oct 11

Saint Albans, WV

#65 Nov 27, 2013
human wrote:
<quoted text>Regarding the things I posted about Clinton and the other Dems, I was just giving examples in response to your post about poverty ALWAYS being greater under Dem presidents. In actuality, I don't believe the economy's strength has much to do with the party that is in the White House. I've said that since I started paying attention to politics during the Carter administration. I usually just try to respond to Repubs claims when they try to give credit to the Republican president for a great economy when he's in office (Reagan) while saying he's not responsible when the economy is bad (both Bushes). Or when they say the Dem president is responsible when the economy is bad (Carter) or that he shouldn't get credit when it's good (Clinton). You know, like you did above by saying Clinton didn't deserve credit for the good economy while he was pres., but W wasn't responsible for what happened during his term (like 9-11).I believe, for the most part, it's a cycle that will occur regardless of who's in office. And, I'm amazed that you'd want to compare Dem led states to Rep led ones since almost all the ten poorest states are in the Republican South.
Never said poverty was always greater under dem presidents. Nice try, though. I didn't even bother reading more of your post. You evidently don't read mine. You just regurgitate democratic talking points.
human

Ravenswood, WV

#66 Nov 27, 2013
sempron wrote:
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Never said poverty was always greater under dem presidents. Nice try, though. I didn't even bother reading more of your post. You evidently don't read mine. You just regurgitate democratic talking points.
You said poverty was ALWAYS greater under Democratic government. Surely you're not trying to weasel out of what you said over just one word.
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peace

Ripley, WV

#68 Nov 27, 2013
Lisa wrote:
I hope that she gets the help she needs. No one knows what is going on in her life. All she asked was ask for information. It hurts my heart for some people to judge her with their rude statements. I myself at one time needed help. And I was thankful for the help I got for my 2 children. So if you have something to say just to bash someone.... I will pray for you as well as the mother that is asking for help.
ty lisa i feel the same and wish i could help her' im older but can remember when my kids were little back in the 80's ' i had to leave and move to newportnews to find a job' stayed there for yrs till i got cdl and drove cross country' but i fell for her or any parent that needs help' hope it all works out for her and others happy thanksgiving.
Needing help

Charleston, WV

#69 Nov 28, 2013
Thanks to those who seemed like they have a heart! Very rare to find these days! Hope everyone has the Happiest Merriest Christmas, ESPECIALLY you SEMPRON!!! Found some help not government assistance that you and I pay into!!!

Since: Oct 11

Saint Albans, WV

#70 Nov 28, 2013
Needing help wrote:
Thanks to those who seemed like they have a heart! Very rare to find these days! Hope everyone has the Happiest Merriest Christmas, ESPECIALLY you SEMPRON!!! Found some help not government assistance that you and I pay into!!!
Thank you. Merry Christmas to you, as well.
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SnbMichelle

War, WV

#72 Dec 13, 2013
sempron wrote:
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Woops. Looks like I offended another freeloader.
You know you shouldnt judge people that are looking for help or say the things you say... No not alot of people cant afford to buy much for christmas so they look for someone to help.. But you know what least they are trying and as long as they are trying at least you know they care and are good parents!!!! You my friend are an asshole!

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