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I forgot to add the link.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/john-mearsheimer...

Since the Big O is getting ready to go over to Israel next week and as we saber rattle on Iran I wonder.

THE ISRAEL LOBBY AND U.S. FOREIGN POLICY

John J. Mearsheimer
University of Chicago

Stephen M. Walt
Harvard University

March 2006

THE ISRAEL LOBBY AND U.S. FOREIGN POLICY

The U.S. national interest should be the primary object of American foreign
policy. For the past several decades, however, and especially since the Six Day War in 1967, the centerpiece of U.S. Middle East policy has been its relationship
with Israel. The combination of unwavering U.S. support for Israel and the
related effort to spread democracy throughout the region has inflamed Arab and
Islamic opinion and jeopardized U.S. security.

This situation has no equal in American political history. Why has the United
States been willing to set aside its own security in order to advance the intere
sts of another state? One might assume that the bond between the two countries is
based on shared strategic interests or compelling moral imperatives. As we
show below, however, neither of those explanations can account for the
remarkable level of material and diplomatic support that the United States
provides to Israel.

Instead, the overall thrust of U.S. policy in the region is due almost entirely
to U.S. domestic politics, and especially to the activities of the “Israel Lobby.”
Other special interest groups have managed to skew U.S. foreign policy in directions
they favored, but no lobby has managed to divert U.S. foreign policy as far from
what the American national interest would otherwise suggest, while
simultaneously convincing Americans that U.S. and Israeli interests are
essentially identical.1

In the pages that follow, we describe how the Lobby has accomplished this feat,
and how its activities have shaped America’s actions in this critical region.
Given the strategic importance of the Middle East and its potential impact on
others, both Americans and non&#8208;Americans need to understand and address the
Lobby’s influence on U.S. policy.

Some readers will find this analysis disturbing, but the facts recounted here are not in serious dispute among scholars. Indeed, our account relies heavily on the
work of Israeli scholars and journalists, who deserve great credit for shedding
light on these issues.
THE GREAT BENEFACTOR

Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of
support dwarfing the amounts provided to any other state. It has been the
largest annual recipient of direct U.S. economic and military assistance since 1976
and the largest total recipient since World War II. Total direct U.S. aid to Israel
amounts to well over $140 billion in 2003 dollars.2 Israel receives about $3 billion
in direct foreign assistance each year, which is roughly one&#8208;fifth of America’s
foreign aid budget. In per capita terms, the United States gives each Israeli a

direct subsidy worth about $500 per year.
3 This largesse is especially striking
when one realizes that Israel is now a wealthy industrial state with a per capita
income roughly equal to South Korea or Spain.4 ....

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This extraordinary generosity might be understandable if Israel were a vital
strategic asset or if there were a compelling moral case for sustained U.S.
backing. But neither rationale is convincing.

A STRATEGIC LIABILITY ..... MUCH MORE ...
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Are we also going after North Korea --
I mean ship - they ALREADY have a nuke and I mean ship they declared war on us ...

but Israel is SPECIAL aren't they ??
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Love wrote:
I forgot to add the link.
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/john-mearsheimer...
Since the Big O is getting ready to go over to Israel next week and as we saber rattle on Iran I wonder.
THE ISRAEL LOBBY AND U.S. FOREIGN POLICY
John J. Mearsheimer
University of Chicago
Stephen M. Walt
Harvard University
March 2006
THE ISRAEL LOBBY AND U.S. FOREIGN POLICY
The U.S. national interest should be the primary object of American foreign
policy. For the past several decades, however, and especially since the Six Day War in 1967, the centerpiece of U.S. Middle East policy has been its relationship
with Israel. The combination of unwavering U.S. support for Israel and the
related effort to spread democracy throughout the region has inflamed Arab and
Islamic opinion and jeopardized U.S. security.
This situation has no equal in American political history. Why has the United
States been willing to set aside its own security in order to advance the intere
sts of another state? One might assume that the bond between the two countries is
based on shared strategic interests or compelling moral imperatives. As we
show below, however, neither of those explanations can account for the
remarkable level of material and diplomatic support that the United States
provides to Israel.
Instead, the overall thrust of U.S. policy in the region is due almost entirely
to U.S. domestic politics, and especially to the activities of the “Israel Lobby.”
Other special interest groups have managed to skew U.S. foreign policy in directions
they favored, but no lobby has managed to divert U.S. foreign policy as far from
what the American national interest would otherwise suggest, while
simultaneously convincing Americans that U.S. and Israeli interests are
essentially identical.1
In the pages that follow, we describe how the Lobby has accomplished this feat,
and how its activities have shaped America’s actions in this critical region.
Given the strategic importance of the Middle East and its potential impact on
others, both Americans and non&#8208;Americans need to understand and address the
Lobby’s influence on U.S. policy.
Some readers will find this analysis disturbing, but the facts recounted here are not in serious dispute among scholars. Indeed, our account relies heavily on the
work of Israeli scholars and journalists, who deserve great credit for shedding
light on these issues.
THE GREAT BENEFACTOR
Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of
support dwarfing the amounts provided to any other state. It has been the
largest annual recipient of direct U.S. economic and military assistance since 1976
and the largest total recipient since World War II. Total direct U.S. aid to Israel
amounts to well over $140 billion in 2003 dollars.2 Israel receives about $3 billion
in direct foreign assistance each year, which is roughly one&#8208;fifth of America’s
foreign aid budget. In per capita terms, the United States gives each Israeli a
direct subsidy worth about $500 per year.
3 This largesse is especially striking
when one realizes that Israel is now a wealthy industrial state with a per capita
income roughly equal to South Korea or Spain.4 ....
....
This extraordinary generosity might be understandable if Israel were a vital
strategic asset or if there were a compelling moral case for sustained U.S.
backing. But neither rationale is convincing.
A STRATEGIC LIABILITY ..... MUCH MORE ...
Yes - I always thought America was more special than that strip of desert.
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I don't want to pay to be the worlds policeman. Will the rest of the world let us tax them to pay for all of this?
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So exactly how so we sign up to fight Israel?
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So exactly how so we sign up to fight Israel?
Work on your sentence structure for a complete thought.
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So exactly how so we sign up to fight Israel?
Your grade D-.
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So exactly how so we sign up to fight Israel?
Too much fighting leaves you with incomplete thoughts.
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Boy those Mossad people are good, have to grant them that.

Sure wasn't an easy read for me. But it is great.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/john-mearsheimer...

THE ISRAEL LOBBY AND U.S. FOREIGN POLICY

John J. Mearsheimer
University of Chicago
Stephen M. Walt
Harvard University

THE ISRAEL LOBBY AND U.S. FOREIGN POLICY

The U.S. national interest should be the primary object of American foreign
policy. For the past several decades, however, and especially since the Six Day War in 1967, the centerpiece of U.S. Middle East policy has been its relationship
with Israel. The combination of unwavering U.S. support for Israel and the
related effort to spread democracy throughout the region has inflamed Arab and
Islamic opinion and jeopardized U.S. security.

This situation has no equal in American political history. Why has the United
States been willing to set aside its own security in order to advance the intere
sts of another state? One might assume that the bond between the two countries is
based on shared strategic interests or compelling moral imperatives. As we
show below, however, neither of those explanations can account for the
remarkable level of material and diplomatic support that the United States
provides to Israel.

Instead, the overall thrust of U.S. policy in the region is due almost entirely
to U.S. domestic politics, and especially to the activities of the “Israel Lobby.”
Other special interest groups have managed to skew U.S. foreign policy in directions they favored, but no lobby has managed to divert U.S. foreign policy as far from what the American national interest would otherwise suggest, while
simultaneously convincing Americans that U.S. and Israeli interests are
essentially identical.1

In the pages that follow, we describe how the Lobby has accomplished this feat,
and how its activities have shaped America’s actions in this critical region.
Given the strategic importance of the Middle East and its potential impact on
others, both Americans and nonAmericans need to understand and address the
Lobby’s influence on U.S. policy.

Some readers will find this analysis disturbing, but the facts recounted here are not in serious dispute among scholars. Indeed, our account relies heavily on the
work of Israeli scholars and journalists, who deserve great credit for shedding
light on these issues.
THE GREAT BENEFACTOR

Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of
support dwarfing the amounts provided to any other state. It has been the
largest annual recipient of direct U.S. economic and military assistance since 1976
and the largest total recipient since World War II. Total direct U.S. aid to Israel
amounts to well over $140 billion in 2003 dollars.2 Israel receives about $3 billion
in direct foreign assistance each year, which is roughly one;
fifth of America’s foreign aid budget. In per capita terms, the United States gives each Israeli a direct subsidy worth about $500 per year.
3
This largesse is especially striking when one realizes that Israel is now a wealthy industrial state with a per capita income roughly equal to South Korea or Spain.4 ....

....
This extraordinary generosity might be understandable if Israel were a vital
strategic asset or if there were a compelling moral case for sustained U.S.
backing. But neither rationale is convincing.

A STRATEGIC LIABILITY ..... MUCH MORE ...
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Libertarian wrote:
Are we also going after North Korea --
I mean ship - they ALREADY have a nuke and I mean ship they declared war on us ...
but Israel is SPECIAL aren't they ??
Yes they are. They are our last effective defense for the Middle East. If it weren't for Israel the US would be the target of Iran. Get your nose out of shytte and smell the roses.
just say no

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Libertarian wrote:
Are we also going after North Korea --
I mean ship - they ALREADY have a nuke and I mean ship they declared war on us ...
but Israel is SPECIAL aren't they ??
if israel is attacked and loseing yes god will step in' thats the holy land obama should watch what he does' instead of trying to look good for the world' but some say he's the anti-christ this will prove it i guess
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just say no wrote:
<quoted text>if israel is attacked and loseing yes god will step in' thats the holy land obama should watch what he does' instead of trying to look good for the world' but some say he's the anti-christ this will prove it i guess
How will that be proof?? Enlighten me??
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just say no wrote:
<quoted text>if israel is attacked and loseing yes god will step in' thats the holy land obama should watch what he does' instead of trying to look good for the world' but some say he's the anti-christ this will prove it i guess
Are you huffing paint? It's a strip of desert where a lot of really smart PEACEFUL and interesting cats were born a couple thousand years ago. Nothing more; except the oil which we all know is the only reason the US pretends to care. Let Israel go down, it's time we stop wasting money and bodies to defend them.
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bumpercar wrote:
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Are you huffing paint? It's a strip of desert where a lot of really smart PEACEFUL and interesting cats were born a couple thousand years ago. Nothing more; except the oil which we all know is the only reason the US pretends to care. Let Israel go down, it's time we stop wasting money and bodies to defend them.
Yes - I totally agree. I really do wonder if Mossad had a double agent or found another way to get this going. I mean IF they can steal nuclear weapons from the USA what can't they do.
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man the idiots are out i see' if the holy land is attacked and bad the bible says god would intervein and all will see his face' so the end is here thanks
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Gods chosen people

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be real careful...be on the side of the Lord
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Not In My Name wrote:
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Yes - I totally agree. I really do wonder if Mossad had a double agent or found another way to get this going. I mean IF they can steal nuclear weapons from the USA what can't they do.
I'll bet you are a draft dodger too. You reap the benefits of the US but do not want to contribute.
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Not In My Name wrote:
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Yes - I totally agree. I really do wonder if Mossad had a double agent or found another way to get this going. I mean IF they can steal nuclear weapons from the USA what can't they do.
It does seem funny. As I understand it -- Assad was winning. He thought we would personally try and attack (kill) him if he used Chemicals but still he uses them? Last I heard THE Lobby was gearing up to spend big money on promoting us attacking ...

PS - of course I would be a draft dogger RATHER than fight for ISRAEL.

They mean ship to ME !!!! And actually over 50 years I think they have hurt the USA. Now IF we are talking about FIGHTING Israel I certainly would consider joining ...

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