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Christian Democrat

Hurricane, WV

#21 Oct 11, 2012
crystal dawn wrote:
This state hasn't been Democrat for years. Manchin, Tomblin...no Democrats. Byrd and Rockefeller maybe. This state used to be super pro-union and supported WORKERS RIGHTS in the coal industry. Now they think the big coal companies are their savior because they give them jobs until their poor bodies give out. Then those same companies expect the Federal and State governments to take care of them after they have ruined their bodies.
Dead on assessment, CD.
Massey

Ellicott City, MD

#22 Oct 11, 2012
Shame wrote:
You as citizens make up the State of WV. Did you ever consider that you are the reason that you are State is one of the Poorest States in the US? Your Senators, Governors works for you! You figure it out.
My wife and I both work 45-50 hours a week and save all we can. We just purchased a very nice house. We were able to do so because after the Bush Administration destroyed the economy the Obama Administration bailed out the banks. This allowed a responsible citizen with excellent credit like me to get an interest rate below 4%.

This state is poor because it worships coal and doesn't attract new industries. The politicians have to pander to the coal mining mindset, even though a very small percentage if the WV population is connected to the coal industry.

What really gets me is that 29 miners die in a mine and Obama tries to strengthen safety regulations and the state goes nuts on him. The mining industry doesn't want more safety regulations because it takes away from the bottom line. So they start laying off miners rather than sacrifice profits and its somehow all Obama's fault. I bet if 29 more miners blew up in a mine that would get blamed on Obama somehow too.
crystal dawn

Lubbock, TX

#23 Oct 11, 2012
Thanks, CD!:)
Christian Democrat

Hurricane, WV

#24 Oct 11, 2012
crystal dawn wrote:
Thanks, CD!:)
Another great analysis. Unfortunatly, the logic of it, especially in the last paragraph, will go ignored by Republicans. I've never in my life heard them utter the words, "you're right" to any of the logical arguments I heard Dems put forward to them.
Christian Democrat

Hurricane, WV

#25 Oct 11, 2012
crystal dawn wrote:
Thanks, CD!:)
I noticed that, too. ;)
crystal dawn

Lubbock, TX

#26 Oct 11, 2012
Christian Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>Another great analysis. Unfortunatly, the logic of it, especially in the last paragraph, will go ignored by Republicans. I've never in my life heard them utter the words, "you're right" to any of the logical arguments I heard Dems put forward to them.
It's because they live in a bubble. Facts and reality don't get in and when you point them out, they either get ignored or the subject is changed.

Or worse.. they claim this false equivalency - that dems and r's are alike. But which party fought for the right to collectively bargain? Which party fought for workers to have a safe working environment? Which party fought to get rid of child labor? Who fought for equal pay? Fact is..at least in the past 100 years.. R's have been on the WRONG side of history almost every time!
Christian Democrat

Hurricane, WV

#27 Oct 11, 2012
Oh, man. You and I think alike. I have always been frustrated by the "they're all alike" statement. Their not even close. I can list, like you, a ton of concrete, specific things Dems have done. I can't, and I haven't ever seen them be able to list anything Republicans have EVER done except give tax breaks to the wealthy. They try to list some untrue things and some very abstract things, but what have they ever truly done besides that? You're a smart one there, CD. There is hope for this country.
crystal dawn

Lubbock, TX

#28 Oct 11, 2012
Thanks again! Good to see a few leeburals still around this fine and beautiful state.
Christian Democrat

Hurricane, WV

#29 Oct 11, 2012
crystal dawn wrote:
Thanks again! Good to see a few leeburals still around this fine and beautiful state.
Although I always vote Dem unless I'm voting against a dishonest Dem or a DINO, I've never thought of myself as a liberal. Maybe because that word is used as a dirty word by Republicans. I think it's pretty conservative to want to take care of the poor rather than to liberally spend every single cent on myself. Or to buy myself a second or third home or a yacht or silver tea set. On the other hand, Republicans, who call themselves conservative are for a liberal supply of guns and tobacco in this country. Conservative means less, liberal means more, so they're not conservative in those two areas. And, since I can name ten times more Republicans who have cheated on their wives than I can Dems, they're pretty liberal about the sanctity of marriage and about sex outside of marriage, too.
crystal dawn

Lubbock, TX

#30 Oct 11, 2012
I get what you are saying. Conservatives used to want to "conserve" land such as national parks too. Now they want to profitize it all. But yeah, liberal is a dirty word and I don't even know if I'm fully a Democrat or liberal or progressive or whatever. I just know what the facts are and it appears that Repubs have been consistently on the wrong side of major accomplishments in this country. Then again, they mat not think OSHA or child labor laws are necessary accomplishments either. lol
Christian Democrat

Hurricane, WV

#31 Oct 11, 2012
Isn't it a mind blower that half the country votes for them when they only enact legislation that helps the one percent? They're geniuses.
crystal dawn

Lubbock, TX

#32 Oct 11, 2012
Have you read any of Thomas Frank's books? He talks a lot about this phenomenon in "What's the Matter With Kansas?" His new one is "Pity the Billionaire". Good stuff!

http://www.tcfrank.com/
A Lincoln

Charleston, WV

#33 Oct 11, 2012
Christian Democrat wrote:
..... I can't, and I haven't ever seen them be able to list anything Republicans have EVER done except give tax breaks to the wealthy. They try to list some untrue things and some very abstract things, but what have they ever truly done besides that?
Thanks for the props.
Christian Democrat

Hurricane, WV

#34 Oct 11, 2012
crystal dawn wrote:
Have you read any of Thomas Frank's books? He talks a lot about this phenomenon in "What's the Matter With Kansas?" His new one is "Pity the Billionaire". Good stuff!
http://www.tcfrank.com/
No, but I've heard of the Kansas book. I'll look into them. thanks.
Christian Democrat

Hurricane, WV

#35 Oct 11, 2012
A Lincoln wrote:
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Thanks for the props.
Yeah, that's really funny. I almost mentioned how occasionally the Republicans will try to take credit for Lincoln being a Republican and freeing the slaves. Of course they don't mention that those calling themselves Republicans back then stood for the things Democrats champion today (accept abortion and gay rights) and visa-versa. The parties changed around the New Deal when Roosevelt, whose party stood for the wealthy at that time, betrayed his fellow Dems and established a multitude of programs to help the poor. Then the racist Dixiecrats began a decades long switch to the Republican party and Reps switched to Dems. So back in Lincoln's day, today's Dems would be Reps and today's Reps would be Dems. I could just hear today's Republicans complaining about how Lincoln was a liberal for releasing the slaves and that it would cause a collapse in the economy because now businesses would have to pay for all that previously free labor. Nice try there, Abe.
ron reagan

Madison, WV

#36 Oct 11, 2012
I think mitt is going to burn in the fiery pits of hell. I think anyway. i can't rememeber to tell you the truth. where am i? Who am I? will someone change my diaper!
brett ziggler

Charleston, WV

#37 Oct 12, 2012
it is very insane but all of the fairy tales are
sean hannity

Madison, WV

#38 Oct 12, 2012
what a freak!
the dude

Nitro, WV

#39 Oct 15, 2012
i looked into this and it's true. It don't matter though cause they are set in voting against a black

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