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Clean Coal Joe

Oak Hill, WV

#1 May 7, 2014
I see ole "Clean Coal Joe Manchin" is once again doing his masters bidding. Yes, those robber baron coal and oil polluters say 'jump Joe' and he says - "Yes sir masser, how high",

He doesn't care about our kids or finding any jobs besides coal.

http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/fighti...

Hey - Joe you're still "Open for Business" aren't you?

(A little joke -- when he took dow the Almost Heaven road signs coming into WVa and bragged about being in the pocket of Big Business).
Ghost of Arch

Hurricane, WV

#2 May 7, 2014
Joe Manchin is trying everything he can do to distance himself from the president except actually opposing the president on issues that are important to the president and actually need Manchins vote to pass.
Manchin and Rahall possibly could have saved coal had they opposed everything Obama did and held their votes as ransom for coal. They didn't. They dutifully voted against anti-coal legislation and supported everything else. They won favor with Harry Reid and Pelosi and West Virginia lost. Rockefeller didn't care one way or the other. He has always been the senator from Wall Street.
mother earth

Charleston, WV

#3 May 7, 2014
Ban coal
Was there today

Scott Depot, WV

#4 May 7, 2014
mother earth wrote:
Ban coal
Yeah, let's triple everyone's electric bills!
Mother Earth- bs

Charleston, WV

#5 May 7, 2014
Bills triple if only natural gas is used. Solar or wind, who knows how high bills would be.
what

Cedar Grove, WV

#6 May 7, 2014
Mother Earth- bs wrote:
Bills triple if only natural gas is used. Solar or wind, who knows how high bills would be.
You are intentionally lying or you are just so out of touch with reality.
STI

Oak Hill, WV

#7 May 8, 2014
http://www.engadget.com/2014/05/05/level-3-in...

"Taylor charges the unnamed ISPs (five in the US and one in Europe) with "deliberately harming the service they deliver to their paying customers," (as show by the graphs above displaying a maxed out connection and subsequent packet loss). He points out that all exist where the providers have "dominant or exclusive market share" and that these problems don't exist where customers have multiple broadband choices."

http://www.savetheinternet.com/sti-home
Realist

Charleston, WV

#8 May 9, 2014
what wrote:
<quoted text>You are intentionally lying or you are just so out of touch with reality.
Solar is insanely expensive to install and renders land useless. Also look at natural gas over the years, if demand rises as it would do dramatically without coal what do you think would happen to bills.
Joe Sugar Daddy

Oak Hill, WV

#9 May 10, 2014
Are these some of Joes' sugar daddys?

Joe Sugar Daddy

Oak Hill, WV

#10 May 10, 2014
Mother Earth- bs wrote:
Bills triple if only natural gas is used. Solar or wind, who knows how high bills would be.
"With a capacity reaching 62,733 Megawatts in 2011, China has by far the world's biggest wind energy capability …Wind energy has grown spectacularly in recent years and has became one of the key growth components of the country’s economy with more than a dozen turbine manufacturers doing business.

The Global Wind Energy Council reckons that the scale and pace of wind energy development in China can’t be matched by any other country in the world. There are at least 80 wind farms operating in China. The first permanent magnetic levitation wind turbine, which allows electricity production even at low wind speeds, was developed by Chinese manufacturers.(Source: Reuters)"

http://knowledge.allianz.com/environment/ener...

I remember when we use to be a leader.
Joe Sugar Daddy

Oak Hill, WV

#11 May 10, 2014
Mother Earth- bs wrote:
Bills triple if only natural gas is used. Solar or wind, who knows how high bills would be.
I guess those people in China just 'don't get it'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_C...

Solar power in the People's Republic of China is a growing industry with over 400 photovoltaic (PV) companies. In 2013, China has been the world's leading installer of photovoltaics adding 11.3 gigawatts (GW) to a cumulated total of 18.3 GW.[1] This is more than twice as much as in 2012 when China installed about 5.0 GW of solar panel capacity.[2] Solar water heating is extensively implemented as well.[3]
I Know Nothing

Oak Hill, WV

#12 May 10, 2014
Was there today wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, let's triple everyone's electric bills!
I guess those Germans aren't very smart either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photovoltaic_in_...

"Germany is the world's top photovoltaics (PV) installer, with a solar PV capacity of 35.948 gigawatts (GW) at the end of 2013[2] and a supported capacity of 36.152 GW at the end of March 2014[3].… Some market analysts expect this could reach 25 percent by 2050.[5] "

How dare Obama Cares think a photovoltaic company in America might be a good thing! It is not like Oil, Gas or Coal get any subsidies or governmental support!

Now I forget, what latitude is Germany on? Do they get much sunshine?
Joe Sugar Daddy

Oak Hill, WV

#13 May 10, 2014
what wrote:
<quoted text>You are intentionally lying or you are just so out of touch with reality.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/19/...

"In an effort to reduce the number of coal-fired plants, the Chinese government has brought forward by 15 years the deadline to develop a nuclear power plant using the radioactive element thorium instead of uranium."

I hear the little bit of radiation waste "only" last a hundred years instead of millions of years. It can be fed for years, no need to stop and add fuel rods we invented in Tenn. around 1970 ...

Those crazzzzzzy Chineese !!!
Wait There Is More

Oak Hill, WV

#14 May 10, 2014
mother earth wrote:
Ban coal
"Five major geothermal power plants exist in Iceland, which produce approximately 26.2%(2010)[2] of the nation's energy. In addition, geothermal heating meets the heating and hot water requirements of approximately 87% of all buildings in Iceland. Apart from geothermal energy, 73.8% of the nation’s electricity is generated by hydro power, and 0.1% from fossil fuels.[3]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_power...

I have seen the commercials where they are promoting heat pumps around here that they put long plastic pipes in the ground. That is new for me.

==========

"Lockheed Martin Corp.(LMT), the world’s largest defense contractor, and Ocean Power Technologies Inc.(OPTT) agreed to jointly develop the world’s largest wave-energy project off the coast of Australia."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-11/lock...

IS THE WHOLE WORLD GOING CRAZY?
Clean Coal Joe

Oak Hill, WV

#15 May 10, 2014
Realist wrote:
<quoted text>
Solar is insanely expensive to install and renders land useless. Also look at natural gas over the years, if demand rises as it would do dramatically without coal what do you think would happen to bills.
"The ITER FUSION (not FISSION) Agreement was signed by China, the European Union, India, Japan, Korea, Russia and the United States. The Members of the ITER Organization will bear the cost of the project through its 10-year construction phase and its 20-year operational phase before decommissioning. 

In Cadarache, southern France, ITER construction has begun on the scientific fusion facilities. "

I remember a time when the USA would have invested and built this in the USA without help. Fusion, NOT fission, no radioactivity. The Power of the Sun and therefore the Universe.

But now IF we ran with this alone -- "another solendra, we don't have the money, the rich man owns coal,gas and oil !!!

https://www.iter.org/proj#itersite
Coal Chems Normally Go

Oak Hill, WV

#16 May 10, 2014
Was there today wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, let's triple everyone's electric bills!
Where do those coal cleaning chemicals normally go? Diluted and put into our streams, bruned on the coal, recycled back to the factory, vaporize as they are being used ...

http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/17/news/economy/...

"China trounces U.S. in green energy investments"

Can there be money in it … or else …
lol

Oak Hill, WV

#17 May 10, 2014
http://news.heartland.org/editorial/2014/05/0...

"battling Edwardsport coa l gasification power plant used more power than it generated during the September-to-November time-frame, earlier this month information filed with the Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission showed the Duke Energy facility operated at less than 1 percent of capacity in February."

=======

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cle...

"Clean Coal to Be Put to Test at 2 Plants This Year
Carbon capture and storage has progressed slowly, reflecting a lack of enthusiasm for financing large projects despite higher costs of forgoing it."

Is this about as 'clean as it gets' Joe?
Clean Coal Joe

Oak Hill, WV

#18 May 10, 2014
mother earth wrote:
Ban coal
Now, now children. Trust ole Joe, he has looked into this, everything is working out just right. I certainly won't mind history judging me for my current position and ideas.

Besides Kids - Get Real, We're not zombies, I mean we have the tanks, you can't fight us.



CrAnK iT
lol

Oak Hill, WV

#19 May 12, 2014
mother earth wrote:
Ban coal
http://www.msnbc.com/up/watch/breaking-throug...

"Breaking through the logjam on climate change"
no coal for you

Chapmanville, WV

#20 May 12, 2014
Mother Earth- bs wrote:
Bills triple if only natural gas is used. Solar or wind, who knows how high bills would be.
hey there buying coal from over sea my cus works at a shipyard in newportnews va' he said 3 big ships were being unloaded there' i guess there coal is better then ours' our obozo owns the mine it came from.

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