Police Say 12-Year-Old Shot Stepfather

Police Say 12-Year-Old Shot Stepfather

There are 110 comments on the WHOtv story from Feb 12, 2010, titled Police Say 12-Year-Old Shot Stepfather. In it, WHOtv reports that:

Police say a Lucas County 12-year-old is responsible for shooting and killing his stepfather and wounding his younger sister.

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Since: Feb 10

Springfield, MO

#101 Feb 28, 2010
girl from chariton wrote:
a friend of a friend wrote:
MamaO is Sara's mother, Jacen's maternal grandmother.
middlemanagement-Seriously? She does not think very highly of her daughter considering she called her an idiot, or her daughter's ability to raise her children. This really doesn't say much for her own ability to raise children since she raised her daughter.
that was really low. i will not place words of others but you do not know this woman or how she raised her kids. i was abused growing up, i didnt however pull a trigger yes i wanted to a few times and DHS never helped me, i feel for this child personally. maybe no one out of the home seen the signs but this child needed help, maybe he was scared to show it. i know i was. and just in case your implying that she beat her daughter, thats by far messed up, she is sticking up for her grandson and someone wants to imply something like that. wow ive never met someone so immature with such a serious situation. just cause people go through beatings dont mean they will do it to their kids. i would never do such thing and i got my **** beat a few times more then i would like to mention. so if you ask me state opinions with truth like she is trying to do. your only making matters worse for the family but stating such things.
Do you know this woman? She is saying that she raised an idiot! She does NOT think very highly of her daughter which directly reflects on her own parenting skills. Facts are facts there. And as for you, I believe your own abuse is clouding your judgement of this case. You as much as said so when you said you'd have liked to have pulled the trigger many times when you were younger but didn't. Now who's the immature one? Learn to discern between your abuse and other different cases of abuse. The facts of this case are not yet publicly known, only speculated. Even Sarah's mother doesn't know what went on in that house since she didn't live in it and can only go by the word of a 12 year old. When the evidence comes out, I believe we're going to hear a whole different story.

Since: Feb 10

Springfield, MO

#102 Feb 28, 2010
girl from chariton wrote:
your only making matters worse for the family but stating such things.
And by the way, I think the boy made things worse for the family when he shot his step dad. I had nothing to do with this. Throw the blame where it belongs please.
Cristen

Des Moines, IA

#103 Feb 28, 2010
to the people defending the Parents in this case, please take off the rose colored glasses. Even if someone is a pillar of the community in public, that sheds no light on the way they are are home. Abusers of ANY kind are manipulative and can apear as as many different personas as they need to to keep their control over the situation. The often use that status in the community to further manipulate their victims. "go ahead and tell somebody- no one will believe you!" Children, adolescents and even adults that are victims of longstanding abuse have minds that work differently. Children especialy, since their brains are not fully developed- specifically in the impulse contol areas. They see the world differently, they beleive they are alone in the dark and no one is coming to the rescue- and sometimes they just withdrawl into themsleves. Sometimes they dissociate from reality. And sometimes they just break. People that have no history of psychology or no history of personal abuse should not assume that this child is malicious. I speak now to everyone. If you see someting that just doesn't sit right, don't ignore it! That is your God given instinct! Act for yourself! Be somebody's hero! Don't ignore the signs anymore than you would ingnore a child in a burning building! If DHS ignores you- KEEP on them, gather the community- 100 voices are harder to ingnore than 1!

Since: Feb 10

Gladbrook, IA

#104 Feb 28, 2010
girl from chariton wrote:
a friend of a friend wrote:
MamaO is Sara's mother, Jacen's maternal grandmother.
middlemanagement-Seriously? She does not think very highly of her daughter considering she called her an idiot, or her daughter's ability to raise her children. This really doesn't say much for her own ability to raise children since she raised her daughter.
that was really low. i will not place words of others but you do not know this woman or how she raised her kids. i was abused growing up, i didnt however pull a trigger yes i wanted to a few times and DHS never helped me, i feel for this child personally. maybe no one out of the home seen the signs but this child needed help, maybe he was scared to show it. i know i was. and just in case your implying that she beat her daughter, thats by far messed up, she is sticking up for her grandson and someone wants to imply something like that. wow ive never met someone so immature with such a serious situation. just cause people go through beatings dont mean they will do it to their kids. i would never do such thing and i got my **** beat a few times more then i would like to mention. so if you ask me state opinions with truth like she is trying to do. your only making matters worse for the family but stating such things.
Wow!! Just to clarify for your friend...I am NOT sara's mother!! Thank God for that!! If I was, I would not have let her get away with the crap she has gotten away with. I actually feel for Sar's mother. Sara has not allowed her mother to see Jasen in quite a long time. Sara also allienated her father before he died too. she spent the last years of his life having to deal with Sara not speaking to him over some horses he bought for her and she almost killed them...BY STARVING THEM ALMOST TO DEATH!! She neglected the poor animals the same way she did Jacen. Anyone see a pattern here! I am not Jacens Grandmother, I am not Sara's mother, but I am a member of his family. I do know that Sara was not abused as a child. She had a good family life. And she was an okay mother when her was born...she was too young, but she did okay, she had help. It wasnt until she got with Todd that her life went to complete hell!!

Since: Jan 10

Des Moines

#105 Feb 28, 2010
middlemanagement wrote:
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So what does a child abuser look like? What color hair do they have? How tall are they? Can you tell what type of abuse they are committing by the way they look or just in general that they are a child abuser? The police department or department of human services should hire you since you seem to be so knowledgeable about what a child abuser LOOKS like. Did you think that the picture they have posted is his driver's license photo and EVERYONE looks bad in that type of picture? I think you're being judgmental without knowing all the facts. Can you also tell if someone has AIDS without a blood test? WOW you're clueless!
well i was in a relationship where i was abused.
on the sideline

Cresco, IA

#106 Feb 28, 2010
those innocent little girls have been robbed from knowing their father.
justme-52

Berlin, MD

#107 Mar 1, 2010
My children were taken from me when I was in treatment for alchoholism.....I had made arrangements for the welfare with a very respectable,reliable family....a socilal worker and a vengefull exhusband took them from there,and i fought and proved myself for 3-4 yrs before I got my youngest son back! My sons were being abused at their father's{sperm donor}home in every way......but dhs turned their backs! I haven't much faith in them!My Gosh! children have died because Iowa dhs"had their blinders on"!
boogienights

San Diego, CA

#108 Mar 3, 2010
This is a really sad situation. For once, I don't have a strong opinion either way on what should happen to this child. I don't think, at all, that he should get away with this. But I'm also not sure that I believe adult charges are fitting.

It's tough. Hopefully the jury in the case will be given all the facts and make the best decision possible.
boogienights

San Diego, CA

#109 Mar 3, 2010
Cassie wrote:
I agree with the first comment. I cant understand why the kid would shoot his stepfather unless there was abuse happening and i think he should go free then.
You can't really jump to that conclusion here. Keep in mind he also shot his sister - which doesn't exactly fit an abuse theory (unless that was an accident).

Although there's obviously a chance that some kind of abuse what happening, there have many MANY cases where kids tried to harm a parent because they were upset over being grounded. Just last year a teenager was sentenced because he shot his parents over a videogame. In 2008 another teen killed his parents because they took away his cell phone. A few years ago a young teen killed both his parents and his brothers just because he was "fed up" with living with them and wanted the inheritance. They still haven't figured out the motive behind the 11 year old who killed his father's pregnant girlfriend, but they speculate it was simply jealousy.

There's also the chance that this child had a mental illness that drove him to do this, at no fault of the step-father.

Tragic any way you look at it though.
jennifer

United States

#110 Mar 3, 2010
boogienights wrote:
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You can't really jump to that conclusion here. Keep in mind he also shot his sister - which doesn't exactly fit an abuse theory (unless that was an accident).
Although there's obviously a chance that some kind of abuse what happening, there have many MANY cases where kids tried to harm a parent because they were upset over being grounded. Just last year a teenager was sentenced because he shot his parents over a videogame. In 2008 another teen killed his parents because they took away his cell phone. A few years ago a young teen killed both his parents and his brothers just because he was "fed up" with living with them and wanted the inheritance. They still haven't figured out the motive behind the 11 year old who killed his father's pregnant girlfriend, but they speculate it was simply jealousy.
There's also the chance that this child had a mental illness that drove him to do this, at no fault of the step-father.
Tragic any way you look at it though.
Thank God someone with some sense that isn't so quick to blame this tragedy on child abuse.

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