Shooting reported at Chardon High School

Feb 27, 2012 Full story: Ohio.com 75

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#70 Feb 28, 2012
Djohns wrote:
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To me that makes it worse. He shot students who were completely innocent. If there was no bullying involved, why did it seem like he went after a certain person when he went to room 200?
I am not making a judgement call, only stating the facts. There is so much bickering going on and I thought people should have all the info. BEFORE arguing online.

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#71 Feb 28, 2012
Sorry, I didn't think my first reply showed.

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#72 Feb 28, 2012
stormy weathers wrote:
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Explain what happened plz. Explain what's up like I know nothing plz. Don't assume i live close to you all. I'm interested.
http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/232710/33/Ch... or search Chardon High shooting.

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#74 Feb 29, 2012
Djohns wrote:
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To me that makes it worse. He shot students who were completely innocent. If there was no bullying involved, why did it seem like he went after a certain person when he went to room 200?
Shooter is claiming random, so that he doesn't get charged with premeditation or to mediate the severity. If he admits he wanted to kill the guy who was dating his ex, charges more severe? I don't buy the "random" claim. His ex-gf's new boyfriend (Russell) is one of the fatalities... shot in back of head at close range. Does that seem random?(common sense says no)

But you make a good point about the victim he chased down. It does not seem random either. Thankfully he seems to have had a short list.

If anyone saw the shooter's facebook page before it was taken down, there was a picture of him on his bed, with a cardboard sign that said "will you be mine?" pointed at the camera. That picture was 2 weeks ago: on Valentine's Day.

The facts will come out. People ranting about bullying need to wait for the facts, and try to find the facts underneath all the legal "spin".
Jim

Albany, NY

#75 Feb 29, 2012
Kevin wrote:
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Before you judge the shooter perhaps there was a good reason for what he did.
Please tell us what good reason he would have to kill 3 children?
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#76 Feb 29, 2012
Jesus_H_Christ wrote:
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Religion has started nearly every war the human race has ever had. We need LESS religion.
Abortion clinic bombers, the KKK, and Bin Laden have all had a steady diet of religion and look where it got us.
Sounds like atheistic propaganda. According to the ENCYCLOPEDIA OF WARS by Charles Phillips and Alan Axelrod, religious wars account for only 7%, or 123 of the 1,763 wars in recorded human history.

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#77 Feb 29, 2012
curious wrote:
If it is true this kid wrote the morbid paper in school, I would be outraged as a parent if the school didn't put this kid on some kind of watch. If it is true his home life was chaotic, abusive and his dad was in jail for attempted murder, where in the heck was his school counselor in all of this? I was a little sickened by the superintendent who chose to advertise his school's emergency preparedness at the most inappropriate time. I have to wonder why this student wasn't under some kind of watch especially if he was bullied. Come on, if a kid attends school and is getting bullied, where are the teachers? Students should also take responsibility and report texts and conversations about bringing a gun to school. Parents should be outraged this student was able to walk in the school with a gun in the first place.
The football coach was a true hero for putting his life on the line...even when being shot at. His bravery most likely saved many lives.
The coach was wonderful. UNFORTUNATELY, given the inclination of so many parents toward litigation for nonsense, had any teacher actually DONE anything about the bullying, it would likely be the teacher to face punishment --- a loss of job would have been just the start. Teachers have no incentive to be the proactive advocates for their students that they used to be. Not when the victims get punished, the teachers get punished, and the bullies get off without so much as a reprimand.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#79 Feb 29, 2012
Kevin wrote:
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Before you judge the shooter perhaps there was a good reason for what he did.


Maybe the victims had cut in front of him on the checkout line at Walmart.

Before I get flack, that was sarcasm. He was a bully with a gun, period.
Just Steve

Lakewood, OH

#82 Feb 29, 2012
Not Anne wrote:
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Shooter is claiming random, so that he doesn't get charged with premeditation or to mediate the severity. If he admits he wanted to kill the guy who was dating his ex, charges more severe? I don't buy the "random" claim. His ex-gf's new boyfriend (Russell) is one of the fatalities... shot in back of head at close range. Does that seem random?(common sense says no)
But you make a good point about the victim he chased down. It does not seem random either. Thankfully he seems to have had a short list.
If anyone saw the shooter's facebook page before it was taken down, there was a picture of him on his bed, with a cardboard sign that said "will you be mine?" pointed at the camera. That picture was 2 weeks ago: on Valentine's Day.
The facts will come out. People ranting about bullying need to wait for the facts, and try to find the facts underneath all the legal "spin".
I see your point about declaring the shooting as random, but his association with the victims would eventually come to light in the court room anyway. Do you have a link of someone confirming Russell as being his ex-gf's new boyfriend, or is that mere speculation?
serfs up

Kissimmee, FL

#83 Feb 29, 2012
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>Western? Like cowboys and Kindians westerns? And America, like north and and south america? LOL.
Nahh just the rest of the hate. You should visit a ghetto of a city. For you do it at midnight. Those evil religious people will not touch you there. I promise.
Rico

Fredonia, NY

#84 Feb 29, 2012
When I heard this might be related to bullying, I was filled with hope. I'm tired of seeing the targets kill themselves when they could kill their little tormenters first. If targets start shooting their tormenters instead of themselves, schools will have to wake up. After all, they will want to protect the bullies -- business as usual!

So kids, do the world a favor. Don't kill yourself until you kill the bullies!
Halo3xd

Martin, TN

#85 Feb 29, 2012
kelly wrote:
Prayers of mercy to everyone, including the shooter. He had to be hurting & no one was helping.
Why would you have prayers to the shooter? It's his own fault that he messed up. The reason he did it was cuz he probably got bullied and wanted to make every body feel sorry for him. But I have the victims in my prayers .

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#86 Feb 29, 2012
Just Steve wrote:
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I see your point about declaring the shooting as random, but his association with the victims would eventually come to light in the court room anyway. Do you have a link of someone confirming Russell as being his ex-gf's new boyfriend, or is that mere speculation?
Not speculation. The info. comes from Nate Mueller's account. Here is a link to the story (although I saw the entire eye witness interview, the day of the shootings):

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2012/02/chard...
D Vindice

Sacramento, CA

#87 Feb 29, 2012
Hollywood puts out violent films and children see the characters as role models.

The killer's lawyer stated, in essence:
This poor child is very shy, upset, and remorsefull.
You've got to forgive him, because he was the subject of being bullied by classmates.
Such harassment is the worst possible crime imaginable.
He was backed in a corner and did the only thing possible.

The liberal spoiled scumbag should be tried as an adult and execute within one week.
The lawyer should also be executed.

Word is, the kid may be a converted muslim.

GUNS DON'T KILL unless and until a liberal pulls the trigger.
Just Steve

Lakewood, OH

#88 Feb 29, 2012
D Vindice wrote:
Hollywood puts out violent films and children see the characters as role models.
The killer's lawyer stated, in essence:
This poor child is very shy, upset, and remorsefull.
You've got to forgive him, because he was the subject of being bullied by classmates.
Such harassment is the worst possible crime imaginable.
He was backed in a corner and did the only thing possible.
The liberal spoiled scumbag should be tried as an adult and execute within one week.
The lawyer should also be executed.
Word is, the kid may be a converted muslim.
GUNS DON'T KILL unless and until a liberal pulls the trigger.
Converted Muslim? You're an idiot.

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