Safety rules, limits on drilling debated

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Ohio's oil and gas industry and state regulators say a bill in the legislature will add tough new restrictions and safety measures to a 2004 law that opened cities, villages and townships to drilling.

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Enjoying It

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Dang! Those anti-drilling Republicans are at it again!

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what is the rush to start drilling in residential area.if we wanted to live next to a drilling site i am sure the land would be cheaper than your average neighborhood.
Enjoying It

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Drill, baby, drill!
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BBBBuut, they were not wearing hard hats. If OSHA ran the country from it's conception, the world would have one less superpower and we would be wearing full body armour to make a trip to the grocery store.
Edward

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Drilling and operating gas and oil wells in high density urban areas allows drilling companies to keep 88 cents out of every dollar for their companies while paying homeowners between 0.2 to 1.25 cents. Since this is an industrial, commercial activity, homeowners with a mortgage may be at risk of having their loans called. In addition, it has been shown that their property values also decline. In residential neighborhoods 100 times more people are exposed to health and safety risks associated with the industrial operations associated with gas well operations than in non-residential areas.
Dennis

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I have yet to find ONE person who supports urban drilling that has a well 150 feet from their own house.
sensible and responsible

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IT defies logic and reason to place a well so close to a home. The oil and gas industry is contributing heavily to the Senators that support the drilling so of course reason is being abandoned for financial persuasion. The govenor wants local control so that gambling can be prohitibed in communitiesthat don't want it. Why shouldn't the same rules apply to communities that don't want oil and gas wells scaring the beauty of their residental areas? Its time for politicians to do whats right for their citizens.
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sensible and responsible wrote:
IT defies logic and reason to place a well so close to a home. The oil and gas industry is contributing heavily to the Senators that support the drilling so of course reason is being abandoned for financial persuasion. The govenor wants local control so that gambling can be prohitibed in communitiesthat don't want it. Why shouldn't the same rules apply to communities that don't want oil and gas wells scaring the beauty of their residental areas? Its time for politicians to do whats right for their citizens.
Why should they start now? They've gotten away with ignoring us for SOOO long.
Interested landowner

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90% of all gas wells 100 feet from homes are on land owned by people who want them there. I should know I have one. It is the rare cases where people don't want the well and it is that close (for example if you don't own your minerals). These extremist groups keep pointing to 1 incident out of the thousands of wells drilled in Ohio and the hundreds in urbanize areas. Now they are grasping at straws calling OSHAA, where the only issues are ones that effect the drillers themselves. Sounds like a last ditch effort to me!
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Edward wrote:
Drilling and operating gas and oil wells in high density urban areas allows drilling companies to keep 88 cents out of every dollar for their companies while paying homeowners between 0.2 to 1.25 cents. Since this is an industrial, commercial activity, homeowners with a mortgage may be at risk of having their loans called. In addition, it has been shown that their property values also decline. In residential neighborhoods 100 times more people are exposed to health and safety risks associated with the industrial operations associated with gas well operations than in non-residential areas.
Shut up, liberal! Drill baby drill!!!(just not near MY house)
Lillian Breedlove

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A realtor told me that if there is a gas well within 300 feet of your home, that the FHA will not give a loan to some one who would want to buy it if you decide to sell. Also I was told that if a gas well causes an incident at your home, it is very doubtful that you would be able to insure your home from that point on. That tells me that the gas wells would have an effect on my property that I feel would devalue and cause great harm to me as a property owner. Gas wells should be placed in your back yard, not mine. Thank you
Lillian Breedlove/ An American for citizens rights/ over pay to play
/ business as usual in Ohio!
Dennis

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@Interested Owner- You put a well 100 feet from your house? Why? I bet you have one that is NOT 100 feet away. It is not the same to have it on your property but much further away...

Most states that permit drilling have set backs that range from 500 feet to 1000 feet. Check Texas, their industry is alive and well. Yes, setbacks this large may restrict residential drilling. However, local communities and residents should have a choice as to whether or not they want to live in an area that has gas and oil well drilling. Drilling has been shown to lower property values, is unsightly, creates serious risks to the safety and health of the residents adjacent to the drilling, and produces known polutants that have shown to cause cancer. Deaths have occured as recently as September from the release of Hydrogen Sulfide.

It does not make sense that the Govenor of the State of Ohio feels that local communities should have a say as to wheter or not to allow gambling in their community, yet does not offer the same support to communites that want to have sensible ordinances concerning drilling.

Basically this is a dollar and sense issue. A few are reaping great benefits while risking the safety and health of citizens and creating an esthetic blemish for communities.
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Why does the ODNR allow the gas wells to be situated so close to houses, apartments, parks, schools, daycare buildings, and places of worship? Why should thousands of children be exposed to the risk of explosion or chronic exposure to toxins throughout their formative years? As the density of well placement increases in our Ohio municipalities, we lose many possibilities to enjoy peace and beauty in our communities. The heavy machinery tramples our forests and playgrounds to prepare the drilling pads. The noise and disruption of drilling drowns out birdsongs and children's laughter. The brine and gas trucks make endless trips through the roads where our kids should be riding their bikes. The pipes and tanks that we pray won't explode are caged and hidden behind wooden fences. I don't feel peace-of-mind over the prospect of cheap natural gas for a few years, just until we consume the resources sitting under our homes.
INTERESTED LANDOWNER

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Dennis,
Ask yourself why does Texas have these larger setbacks??? Do you think it has anything to do with the large amount of vacant land in Texas, coupled with the 2 mile plus depth of the wells, as well as the extremely high pressures they face there? Ohio wells are a fraction of the size and scope Texas wells are, so it is impossible to even TRY and compare the two. In addition, the gas in Ohio is where the urbanized areas are, not the other way around. This is why there are almost no wells in the Western half of Ohio, virtually no natural gas. Wells have been drilled in these areas since the 1930s, and still very, very few incidents. Do some research as I did before you keep listening to these groups that are completely uninformed.
down with econuts

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Wondering wrote:
Why does the ODNR allow the gas wells to be situated so close to houses, apartments, parks, schools, daycare buildings, and places of worship? Why should thousands of children be exposed to the risk of explosion or chronic exposure to toxins throughout their formative years? As the density of well placement increases in our Ohio municipalities, we lose many possibilities to enjoy peace and beauty in our communities. The heavy machinery tramples our forests and playgrounds to prepare the drilling pads. The noise and disruption of drilling drowns out birdsongs and children's laughter. The brine and gas trucks make endless trips through the roads where our kids should be riding their bikes. The pipes and tanks that we pray won't explode are caged and hidden behind wooden fences. I don't feel peace-of-mind over the prospect of cheap natural gas for a few years, just until we consume the resources sitting under our homes.
Hope you don't heat your home with natural gas/oil, drive a car, use plastics or other petroleum-based products.
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Hope you don't heat your home with natural gas/oil, drive a car, use plastics or other petroleum-based products.
Funny! That's exactly what the eco-nuts hope!
get real

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we are not saying that we don't want gas wells. we are saying we don't want them next to our homes
Landers

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To drill an Oil and Gas well in Ohio, standard permits require 20 contiguous acres from you or a group of owners and a wellhead that is 300 feet from a non-participant's property line and 150 feet from an occupied dwelling. It is also a good idea for your well site to be 1300 feet from another well. Some portions of the state do require 40 contiguous acres from you or a group of owners and a wellhead that is 350 feet from a non-participant's property line due to the necessity to drill deeper to reach the gas.
Property owners who have contributed leases forming the 20 acre plus drilling unit earn a 12.5% royalty on all gross revenues with no required investment. If you don't do it, your neighbors will.

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