Lost Nation Airport ( VERY IMPORTANT!! )

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Alice

United States

#1 Dec 8, 2006
As a concerned citizen of Lake County, I feel it is important to inform others of the current talks between Lake County Commissioners, Congressman LaTourette, the members of Willoughby city council as well as Mayor Anderson, and the Lost Nation Airport. Plans are in the process to turn Lost Nation into a county airport, which will have great adverse effects on the residents of Lake County, not to mention an extreme infringement on the safety and well being of those who live directly surrounding the airport grounds. Cuyahoga County airport is less than 10 miles from Lost Nation, and would be just as easy for pilots to utilize. This fact makes it seem even more unnecessary to make the change to a county airport.
Please visit http://www.lostnationairport.com/ , get informed and stand up for your right to keep your homes, neighborhoods, and pocketbooks safe!
Ann

United States

#2 Jan 4, 2007
What an embarrassment this present group of Lake County commissioners turned out to be. They jumped head first, uninformed and blindly into the airport deal just four days after saying they would take their time before making a decision. Abruptly, they committed the taxpayers of Lake County to a proven albatross of an airport with no plan or regard for the taxpayers that will be held liable for their rash decision. It makes me wonder if there is more to this airport deal than has been presented to the people of Lake County.

As each and every one of them seek re-election we need to remember their impetuous actions, lack of regard to the taxpayers and vote them out of office.
Rusty

Cleveland, OH

#3 Jan 5, 2007
Little does the majority of the public know this, but Cuyahoga County Airport is on the governmet chopping block and has lost its qualifications as a reliever airport for Cleveland Hopkins. Cuyahoga County Airport tenants are fast looking for alternate places to locate their businesses, this includes internationally reknown "Flight Options."
To say that safety of people living near Lost Nation Airport is in jeopardy with a county take over is just ludicrous. If anything it breathes new life into an airport that has no limit to it's value for the entire Lake County and eastern Cuyahoga county areas.
Your taxes do not go into most of what is done at the airport. That comes from Federal Government grant money and funds already allocated toward it. It's easy for people who "do not know" the details to get out and cry that it's all on them and their taxes when it is not.
The airport not only serves as a key connection to the transportation system, it also serves as a centerpoint for emergency and disaster operations unique to it's position.
The airport, once again, gets the "majority" of it's funding through government grants and allocated funds, not your local tax money.
The airport is a valuable asset that must be kept and even updated and improved in light of the proposed closure of Cuyahoga County Airport. People used to think Burke would be the first to close when in fact this is way off base. A new golf course has been drawn up and will be developed there as an asset to the airport and updates and improvements are constantly being done on the field (BKL). This further adds to the need to keep Lost nation open and running at full tilt. Lost nation fully qualifies for all of the funds allocated to "reliever" airports for class I facilities, like CLE. Don't think WE the taxpayers will be stuck with the bill in the end, this simply just doesn't happen.
The county takeover of the airport, shares any needs for additional funds across the county to keep the airport A viable resource for the whole region.
Greg Group

United States

#4 Jan 7, 2007
This is a copy of an e-mail sent to lostnationairport.com for posting on that site... Let's see if it in fact gets posted.
I don’t know if you are posting comments on your site that are both for and against, though, in the interest of fairness I think that you should. Also, is you believe in your position on this, posting your name, as I have done below, would be appropriate.
Like you, I have been a lifelong neighbor of the airport, growing up at the end of Seminole Trail, right next to the runway. My family has been on Seminole Trail for 45 years. I doubt that there are many people who owned their homes, as you site suggests, before the airport existed, inasmuch as it has been an airport since the 1930’s.
I am also a pilot who flies in and out of Lost Nation Airport on business. There are many owners of businesses, large and small, who depend upon the airport as part of the transportation infrastructure, in the same manner that they depend on freeways and commercial ports.
The simple fact is, Lost Nation airport is not going to remain as it is. Across the country, the selfish “not in my backyard” attitude is resulting in general aviation airports being closed at the rate of one every two weeks. Burke Lakefront is under pressure to close. There are folks who bought new, expensive homes near Cuyahoga County Airport who would like to see it gone too. And the complaints from the neighbors around Cleveland Hopkins are a constant part of managing that airport. It is the same from the east coat to the west coast. The folks who hate airplane noise are the ones who always seem to move in next to an airport.
The problem is this. Lost Nation Airport is being encroached upon at its southwest corner by developers. If the developers have their way, they will build on the property at the corner of Lost Nation Road and Hodson road, which will necessitate the shortening of runway 5/23 by 600 feet, effectively closing the airport to all but the smallest Piper Cubs and Cessnas. Some of the comments on your site seem to advocate a return to the days when only small aircraft flew in and out of Lost Nation, so one would imagine that these folks would applaud such a move.
While the anti airport folks may applaud such a small planes only restriction, the approximately 450 acres that the airport occupies are simply too valuable to maintain as an airport for students to fly around the traffic pattern in tiny airplanes.
So if the business people leave, with their jets, businesses and jobs and taxes, the airport is simply not going to revert to the way it was in the 60’s.

(End of part 1)
Greg Group

United States

#5 Jan 7, 2007
Continued from Part 1.
What will happen is that the property will be sold to developers. Of course, some of the folks on your site who don’t like the airport also don’t want to see the property turned into an industrial park, single and multi-family development or high density high rise complex. Unfortunately, if the Lake County doesn’t take the property over, industrial or residential development IS the alternative.
So instead of the sound of an occasional bizjet taking off those next to the airport will have to deal with the 24-hour day pounding and screeching of factories like the one just north of the airport.(Yes, this facility pounds and bends large metal beams all though the night, which can be heard a quarter mile up and down Lost Nation Road.)
The simple fact is that airports are part of the US transportation infrastructure, in the same way that highways and roads are. When Interstate 90 was run through central Lakewood in the 1960’s and 1970’s, did the State of Ohio stop the project because the adjoining neighbors did not “buy in” to having a freeway next door? No, they went ahead and built it anyway, in the belief that the complaints of the few were outweighed by the benefit that was provided by the project to the many.
What would the reaction be if I bought property next to the Ohio Turnpike, and then objected when the Turnpike Commission added a lane, because I did not “buy in” to a larger Turnpike when I bought my property? Or, what would they say if I built a house next to the Turnpike, and then demanded that Ohio eliminate a lane, close the Turnpike to Buses and Trucks, and only allow private passenger cars, in order that my individual sleep on the weekends might not be disturbed?
One would certainly hope that a few folks living next to the Ohio Turnpike would not have the power to close it, shrink it, or otherwise deny its use to the public in general.
And one hopes that a few people, who knowingly bought their homes next to a public use airport, will not have the ability to shut down Lost Nation Airport, a critical part of this regions, and the country’s, aviation infrastructure.
No one will realize, until decades from now when Lake County has its own thriving county airport, how forward-looking were Mayor Anderson and Commissioners Troy, Aufuldish and Sines and the people in government with whom they are working to get the Lake County Lost Nation Airport project moving forward.
Respectfully,
Gregory Group
PS.
I have signed this with my full name and address. I don’t see any similar signatures or attributions on your site.
I am also copying this to the News Herald, Dave Anderson and the Lake County commissioners, just in case you decide not to include a respectfully submitted, opposing viewpoint on your site.
Greg Group

United States

#6 Jan 7, 2007
This is a copy of an e-mail sent to lostnationairport.com for posting on that site. Lets see if it makes it.

Part 1

I don’t know if you are posting comments on your site that are both for and against, though, in the interest of fairness I think that you should. Also, is you believe in your position on this, posting your name, as I have done below, would be appropriate.



Like you, I have been a lifelong neighbor of the airport, growing up at the end of Seminole Trail, right next to the runway. My family has been on Seminole Trail for 45 years. I doubt that there are many people who owned their homes, as you site suggests, before the airport existed, inasmuch as it has been an airport since the 1930’s.



I am also a pilot who flies in and out of Lost Nation Airport on business. There are many owners of businesses, large and small, who depend upon the airport as part of the transportation infrastructure, in the same manner that they depend on freeways and commercial ports.



The simple fact is, Lost Nation airport is not going to remain as it is. Across the country, the selfish “not in my backyard” attitude is resulting in general aviation airports being closed at the rate of one every two weeks. Burke Lakefront is under pressure to close. There are folks who bought new, expensive homes near Cuyahoga County Airport who would like to see it gone too. And the complaints from the neighbors around Cleveland Hopkins are a constant part of managing that airport. It is the same from the east coat to the west coast. The folks who hate airplane noise are the ones who always seem to move in next to an airport.



The problem is this. Lost Nation Airport is being encroached upon at its southwest corner by developers. If the developers have their way, they will build on the property at the corner of Lost Nation Road and Hodson road, which will necessitate the shortening of runway 5/23 by 600 feet, effectively closing the airport to all but the smallest Piper Cubs and Cessnas. Some of the comments on your site seem to advocate a return to the days when only small aircraft flew in and out of Lost Nation, so one would imagine that these folks would applaud such a move.



While the anti airport folks may applaud such a small planes only restriction, the approximately 450 acres that the airport occupies are simply too valuable to maintain as an airport for students to fly around the traffic pattern in tiny airplanes.



So if the business people leave, with their jets, businesses and jobs and taxes, the airport is simply not going to revert to the way it was in the 60’s.
Ann

United States

#7 Jan 8, 2007
Greg,
There is nothing fair about the predicament Lake County residents are in because
of the commissioners. So no, we will not be posting your comments. We are not a
newspaper. We are a group of concerned citizens geared toward helping the
majority of residents, not a few pilots and businesspersons. Calling concerned
parents and homeowners selfish for wanting to protect their homes and SCHOOLS
leads us to believe that discussing point by point your comments would be
futile. We look forward to seeing your remarks in the News-Herald because so
many people are unaware of the issue and even opposing attention helps us out.

Respectfully,

Ann,
Media Relations
Citizens against Lake County Lost Nation Airport
www.lostnationairport.com
mail@lostnationairport.com
Ann

United States

#8 Jan 8, 2007
Thanks for pointing out to the public that airports are placed on government chopping blocks. Every time money is taken from the FAA, as the Lake County commissioners plan to do, there is an agreement that requires the airport must be maintained for twenty years. When a government pulls back on funding, as you claim happened to Cuyahoga County Airport, who then would be required to finance money owed that is attached to that agreement? Taxpayers?

Willoughby has owned the airport for twenty years. Where is this breadth of life? Why was the federal grant money not enough for the city to make it fly? Why were there so many articles in the newspapers with the mayor claiming it to be a drain on the budget?

The probability of Burke Lakefront Airport closing has been made public knowledge. Commissioner Aufuldish said,“Burke Lakefront Airport (in Cleveland) is under heavy pressure to shut down. We are very nervous and want to make sure our airport is still available.”

Now, you claim there is a “proposed closure of Cuyahoga County Airport.” Does that mean all the aircraft from Burke Lakefront Airport and Cuyahoga County Airport will be based at Lost Nation Airport? Forgive me for being concerned by that prospect.

Ann
Media Relations
Citizens against Lake County Lost Nation Airport
www.lostnationairport.com
Rusty wrote:
Little does the majority of the public know this, but Cuyahoga County Airport is on the governmet chopping block and has lost its qualifications as a reliever airport for Cleveland Hopkins. Cuyahoga County Airport tenants are fast looking for alternate places to locate their businesses, this includes internationally reknown "Flight Options."
To say that safety of people living near Lost Nation Airport is in jeopardy with a county take over is just ludicrous. If anything it breathes new life into an airport that has no limit to it's value for the entire Lake County and eastern Cuyahoga county areas.
Your taxes do not go into most of what is done at the airport. That comes from Federal Government grant money and funds already allocated toward it. It's easy for people who "do not know" the details to get out and cry that it's all on them and their taxes when it is not.
The airport not only serves as a key connection to the transportation system, it also serves as a centerpoint for emergency and disaster operations unique to it's position.
The airport, once again, gets the "majority" of it's funding through government grants and allocated funds, not your local tax money.
The airport is a valuable asset that must be kept and even updated and improved in light of the proposed closure of Cuyahoga County Airport. People used to think Burke would be the first to close when in fact this is way off base. A new golf course has been drawn up and will be developed there as an asset to the airport and updates and improvements are constantly being done on the field (BKL). This further adds to the need to keep Lost nation open and running at full tilt. Lost nation fully qualifies for all of the funds allocated to "reliever" airports for class I facilities, like CLE. Don't think WE the taxpayers will be stuck with the bill in the end, this simply just doesn't happen.
The county takeover of the airport, shares any needs for additional funds across the county to keep the airport A viable resource for the whole region.
Alice

United States

#9 Jan 8, 2007
Rusty wrote:
Little does the majority of the public know this, but Cuyahoga County Airport is on the governmet chopping block and has lost its qualifications as a reliever airport for Cleveland Hopkins. Cuyahoga County Airport tenants are fast looking for alternate places to locate their businesses, this includes internationally reknown "Flight Options."
To say that safety of people living near Lost Nation Airport is in jeopardy with a county take over is just ludicrous. If anything it breathes new life into an airport that has no limit to it's value for the entire Lake County and eastern Cuyahoga county areas.
Your taxes do not go into most of what is done at the airport. That comes from Federal Government grant money and funds already allocated toward it. It's easy for people who "do not know" the details to get out and cry that it's all on them and their taxes when it is not.
The airport not only serves as a key connection to the transportation system, it also serves as a centerpoint for emergency and disaster operations unique to it's position.
The airport, once again, gets the "majority" of it's funding through government grants and allocated funds, not your local tax money.
The airport is a valuable asset that must be kept and even updated and improved in light of the proposed closure of Cuyahoga County Airport. People used to think Burke would be the first to close when in fact this is way off base. A new golf course has been drawn up and will be developed there as an asset to the airport and updates and improvements are constantly being done on the field (BKL). This further adds to the need to keep Lost nation open and running at full tilt. Lost nation fully qualifies for all of the funds allocated to "reliever" airports for class I facilities, like CLE. Don't think WE the taxpayers will be stuck with the bill in the end, this simply just doesn't happen.
The county takeover of the airport, shares any needs for additional funds across the county to keep the airport A viable resource for the whole region.
Whether it be the Cuyahoga County, or Burke Lakefront airport that closes is no matter. Either way, the prospect of the air traffic from either place would be a detriment to this community. We may not get "stuck with the bill", which I highly doubt, but we will be stuck with the increased air traffic and more importantly the decreased safety that will be guaranteed if Lost Nation becomes a county run airport. Even with the airport in it's current state, the safety of the people around it is obviously violated by pilots who blatantly disregard the designated flight patterns that are in place at Lost Nation Airport, and they do so at extremely low altitudes. I have seen it happen. By it becoming a county run airport is only going to increase the amount of air craft coming in and out, increase these incidents, and therefore increasing the safety risk. So, to call this concern "ludicrous" is simply ignorant.

The fact of the matter is, Lost Nation airport is right in the middle of a residential area. It is simply not an appropriate setting for a larger, county run airport. Turning it into a county airport is an extremely irresponsible and selfish move by those who are advocating it!

The bottom line is, a small group of people is working very secretively to make big changes that will have a tremendous adverse effect on a large group of people. If this is such a positive proposition, why aren't those who will be most effected being given the opportunity to have some say in the matter?
Greg Group

United States

#10 Jan 9, 2007
Secretively?

Everyone involved in this issue has been upfront about their involvement. Their names and contact information are in the public domain for all to see. The process has been covered in the televison and print news media.

One wonders why the opponents of the airport must hide behind single first names, with no contact information.

I think that anyone who reads this will agree that anonymous, unsigned opinions lack the credibility of signed ones.
Alice

United States

#11 Jan 9, 2007
Greg,
Lets use you as an example. Type your name in on zabasearch.com , painesville muni court at pm court.com , the Lake County Clerk of Courts, the Lake County Auditor's site. How much of your personal information do you see. Personal information you didn't realize was out there. That's why I keep my name off the net. Basic internet safety doesn't make my comments any less credible.

Since: Jan 07

Willoughby, Ohio

#12 Jan 13, 2007
I never said Cuyahoga County Airport lost it's funding, I stated that it had lost it's certification as a reliever airport due to many factors, that invloved service, atc service, safety issues, the list goes on.

Since: Jan 07

Willoughby, Ohio

#13 Jan 13, 2007
Once again public ignorance seems to lead to panic and the fear of having to be burdened with an asset that is already paying dividends towards our future.

It’s obvious from the attendance at summer air show events that the community has a great interest in airport. Who knows how many children that get to see their first airplane here may go on to be leaders in future generations of aerospace pioneers? You can’t put a price on just how valuable and meaningful it is to just “spark” a child or person’s interest in aviation. That’s how I fell in love with my dream of flying and the same holds true with many of my colleagues. The value that Lost Nation Airport holds for our region’s future is limitless. We can aid our local and regional commerce and transportation systems through the airport, provide a centralized location in the event of an major emergency and maybe open the eyes of some future aviation and aerospace (and space) explorers. There are many untapped ideas for the airport and to do away with this resource would be a great injustice to our children and our future.

We can't, and most likely won't, be influenced by leftist thinking folks who feel they, the minority, don't benefit from the airport directly or indirectly. These people and those associated with the off-based website trashing the airport need to be educated in how the region benefits from this and not be soley driven to promote what is wrong to fit their whims.

Another aspect....
THE DISASTER AND PUBLIC SERVICE SCENARIO:If you look at a fire department. The fire engines in that garage are "worth" their value simply by being ready to go answer an emergency call. An airport, fully functional and capable, fits the needs of emergency management teams to centralize ANY type of operation needed. Whether that is staging for
an emergency situation that requires centralized control, a lot of rescue equipment or even the obvious, airlift capabilites. We don't live in the ignorant 70's of Jimmy Carter or 90's of Bill Clinton. We have to secure resources for ANY situation that we may EVER be faced with. Terrorist attacks, wildfires, floods (hello Lake County) or any other situation that calls for a coordinated response or a place to put displaced residents can all be fulfilled by Lost Nation Airport.

Since: Jan 07

Willoughby, Ohio

#14 Jan 13, 2007
Greg Group wrote:
Continued from Part 1.
What will happen is that the property will be sold to developers. Of course, some of the folks on your site who don’t like the airport also don’t want to see the property turned into an industrial park, single and multi-family development or high density high rise complex. Unfortunately, if the Lake County doesn’t take the property over, industrial or residential development IS the alternative.
So instead of the sound of an occasional bizjet taking off those next to the airport will have to deal with the 24-hour day pounding and screeching of factories like the one just north of the airport.(Yes, this facility pounds and bends large metal beams all though the night, which can be heard a quarter mile up and down Lost Nation Road.)
The simple fact is that airports are part of the US transportation infrastructure, in the same way that highways and roads are. When Interstate 90 was run through central Lakewood in the 1960’s and 1970’s, did the State of Ohio stop the project because the adjoining neighbors did not “buy in” to having a freeway next door? No, they went ahead and built it anyway, in the belief that the complaints of the few were outweighed by the benefit that was provided by the project to the many.
What would the reaction be if I bought property next to the Ohio Turnpike, and then objected when the Turnpike Commission added a lane, because I did not “buy in” to a larger Turnpike when I bought my property? Or, what would they say if I built a house next to the Turnpike, and then demanded that Ohio eliminate a lane, close the Turnpike to Buses and Trucks, and only allow private passenger cars, in order that my individual sleep on the weekends might not be disturbed?
One would certainly hope that a few folks living next to the Ohio Turnpike would not have the power to close it, shrink it, or otherwise deny its use to the public in general.
And one hopes that a few people, who knowingly bought their homes next to a public use airport, will not have the ability to shut down Lost Nation Airport, a critical part of this regions, and the country’s, aviation infrastructure.
No one will realize, until decades from now when Lake County has its own thriving county airport, how forward-looking were Mayor Anderson and Commissioners Troy, Aufuldish and Sines and the people in government with whom they are working to get the Lake County Lost Nation Airport project moving forward.
Respectfully,
Gregory Group
Hi Greg,
There shouldn't be too many worries about the land ever being sold for housing development as 45% of it is a protected national wetland. I am very confident that the airport will flourish under the PROPER guidance of those of us that understand this industry and it's importance to the region and the State of Ohio as well. These little beetnik webpages do very little to draw much support for their ill-conceived ideas claimingto be the "majority" when in fact that couldn't be farther from the truth. For example, they mention schools complaining (as well as citing safety), well every school administrator I have spoken with is very much in favor of the airport staying AND growing as it offers an irreplaceable educational asset to our children.
Citing safety as a factor and placing the thought that we, pilots, are wreckless and dangerous operating without care and concern for ourself and others. Well, as a professional pilot and airline captain, I take that comment very serious whereas it is borderline slander. So Alice and company, watch yourselves on that issue very carefully. You don't have the background, educationally, ethically or legally to state that as fact. You simply lack the knowledge of how this all (airports and aviation) works.
Greg, take care.
Ann

United States

#15 Jan 17, 2007
Rusty,

You use insulting remarks and threatening statements and expect readers to take you seriously? Sorry captain when it comes to debating an issue you stoop to low for me.

Since: Jan 07

Willoughby, Ohio

#16 Jan 18, 2007
Ann,

First of all, I threatened nobody nor did I use any words as unsult. If not being politically correct is an insult, then it's time for the minority to wake up and realize that Politcal Correctness is dead. P.C. for the weak and those afraid to believe in anything. As for threats, it is the fact-less website you support that has made threats. I mearly informed "your side" that by making insinuating comments about aviators sets you up in a bad way and people of influence are watching. Go back and read it again if you didn't get the point.

What I stated is fact. You and your people have made "judgmental" remarks towards aviation. This proves to be "insulting" to us since it is obvious that there is an obvious lack of real knowledge on your behalf as to the facts involved. If this is seen as an insult to you for me to make this clear, then my point has been made already.

If you can put ANY facts behind what your website "spews" then you can be taken seriously. Until then, do not reply to me that I insulted you.

The public has to be made aware of the FACTS not FICTION about the existence of the airport. It IS an asset, it IS beneficial to our future and to our children, it IS vital for the region and to the county. Lake County taking over the airport is the best thing that could happen for the airport. It's value is unparalleled and goes unrivaled. We don't need more homes built in Willoughby( this dillutes the schools if you want to defend education...), we don't need more shopping areas. We have a wonderful education source and a key link to the transportation system in Lost Nation Airport.

...As for a debate. I never asked for one, but if offered I would be very happy to oblige and make no mistake I will come with an arsenal of facts and support. I will come correct and that's NOT politically correct. I will tell it like it is, the way the public wants to hear it. No fluff. No run around, just straight to the point facts.

Safety has never been an issue with the airport. Noise (I live here too) is not as big of a factor as many make it seem. You're afraid that you'll be asked to foot the bill and that's a false fear. Think of the future of the county, our children and their dreams. It only takesa dream to get started the future of the next great mind in aviation and space. Why deny a child or teen that?

The economic benefits are great as well. Jobs are created, tax revenue generated (that would be shared throughout the county, not just Willoughby), businesses would benefit and the PEOPLE would benefit the most.

Take care
Rosco

United States

#17 Jan 18, 2007
Pretty amazing what you can find when you type city of Willoughby, and lost nation airport, and debt into a search engine. Have any of you guys ever reviewed the 2005 Comprehensive annual report for the city of Willoughby. I pasted part of it over to save some time.

At December 31, 2005, the Airport fund had deficit unrestricted net assets of
$3,683,582. The Due to Other Funds amount represents long-term debt on behalf of
the Airport fund paid by the General fund, the General Retirement Bond fund, the
Sewer fund and the Capital fund. The Airport fund has liabilities (due to other funds)
in the amount of $4,029,504, which consists of $1,326,019 due to the General fund,
$2,521,572 to the General Retirement Bond fund,$158,737 to the Sewer fund and
$23,176 to the Capital fund. The Airport fund is ultimately responsible for its longterm
debt based upon the intent of Council and the Administration of the City. This
has not been possible due to insufficient revenue received by this Enterprise fund. The
airport, when and if capable, will be required to repay all liabilities to other funds.

Thats from page 37 under Fund Deficits. it can be downloaded from
http://willoughbyohio.com/finance.htm
Shannon

United States

#18 Jan 19, 2007
I am a long time resident of Willoughby and have been following this issue for quite some time now. It has quickly become a heated topic, and I find it deplorable that certain proponents of the County takeover have reverted to name calling in order to get their point across.

I am absolutely against the County purchasing Lost Nation Airport and making it a backup airport to Hopkins. Developing the Burke Lakefront property will hopefully be the catalyst that Cleveland has been looking for, but diverting Burke's air traffic to Willoughby will have a significant negative impact on our suburb. The City of Willoughby administration has put forth much time and effort into developing the Downtown Willoughby area into a thriving restaurant, bar and shopping district. Plans to create a second area of shopping as well as residential and commercial spaces are underway to develop the property located across from the Andrews School. The increased noise from air traffic consisting of large jets will put a damper on the shopping and strolling atmosphere that residents and visitors have grown to love.

Even more devastating than the impact on the Downtown area is the increased noise and air pollution that residents living in the area of Lost Nation airport will be subjected to. While some seem to think that people don't have a right to complain after purchasing property adjacent to a municipal airport, I think that statement is severely lacking in it's foundation. Additionally, comparing concerned homeowners near Lost Nation to those living near the turnpike is ludicrous and without merit. The impact of this decision is far reaching and encompass health issues, noise, pollution, safety and home valuations. The residents living in the area surrounding Lost Nation Airport should be the most important consideration to the County administration, and they most certainly should be given a vote in this matter. Thankfully I don't live directly near the airport, but my family and many friends do. The idea that the City of Willoughby and the Lake County Commissioners would be so callous as to not include the decision of the residents is astounding. While the concern that the taxpayers will end up funding this airport seems to be up for debate, the fact that the taxpayers pay the salaries of these officials certainly is not.

Shannon
Willoughby, Ohio
Ray

Mentor, OH

#19 Jan 19, 2007
Who held a gun to your head to buy property near the airport? This falls into the category of buyer beware. I work for a company located at the airport. It is how I and others who work here and for the other companies also located here provide for our families. And let's not forget the taxes we pay to Willoughby along with the corporate taxes. The only jets that could possibly use this airport are the small corporate type. Scare tactics like yours are indeed scary.

Since: Jan 07

Willoughby, Ohio

#20 Jan 19, 2007
Stop the talk about Burke as fuel for the fire here. Burke Lakefront Airport is far from being closed. The port authority, which runs the airport, has put into motion plans for a new golf course to be desgined on the property as an addition to complement the airport, not to take it's place. It has added a new commuter service and is still an integral part of the port authority's airport system there. Cleveland needs far more than developing every bit of land they can get to to be a "catalyst."

Back to our issue. Any investment made now and in the long run in Lost Nation Airport on a regional and county level would benefit everybody. The public just needs to be shown the "light." This hasn't happened and Willoughby (and I love this city) is partly to blame by neglecting it's marketing of the airport through the years. Airports don't make money hand over foot. They provide value by just being there. User fees, taxes, a portion of fuel sales, money from services and rent for property all comes from the airport directly.
Oh yeah, last I checked, a lease at an airport brings in quite a bit more than a retail store would anywhere. Money spent on improvements and upkeep come from the government.

*The last thing Willoughby needs is to build more homes. There are plenty. The school system will become too dilluted for anybody to appreciate it and then the home values will go down anyway.

*Directly there are no health nor safety issues to be concerned with. Why do people always bring up the safety issue. Somebody give me a "logical" answer and please back it with facts. The odds of an airplane having an encounter with a structure on or near the airport is remote. The state keeps stats on this too if you want to look it up.

*Pollution???? Aircraft run much cleaner than any car on the road today.

* Aiports and their users "ALWAYS" take their neighbors into consideration and make very effort to continuously work to improve noise abatement procedures to control noise as much as practically possible.

The city and county acted on this issue in a way that most government bodies do. In our best interests for all of us. Question-"did the city of Willoughby "ask" voters to vote on building a new courthouse that handles cases on a "regional" level as well as local ones?" But it sure looks pretty doesn't it?....and boy is it quiet too!

No matter how large or small the contributions, all airports contribute in some way to the quality of life of all Ohio residents.

THEY ARE A CENTER OF COMMERCE AS WELL AS RECREATION.

To quote the former Ohio Director of Aviation:" An airport runway is the most important Main Street of any city."

More than one positive can be put up against any one negative on this issue. That's a simple fact. A thriving airport provides jobs, fiscal resources, an educational oasis, a center for safety and emergency services should a "worst case scenario" ever occur.

Talk to those of us in the aviation community and we'll show you every reason how and why this airport has limitless value.

Take care and Always Believe.

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