Officer Involved Shooting Under Inves...

Officer Involved Shooting Under Investigation

There are 13 comments on the WTVF Nashville story from Sep 26, 2010, titled Officer Involved Shooting Under Investigation. In it, WTVF Nashville reports that:

Chapel Hill, Tenn.- The TBI, and THP are now investigating a shooting after officers shot a suspect in Marshall County.

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JOKER

Murfreesboro, TN

#1 Sep 27, 2010
Im just a little curious why they did not shoot the knife out of his hand,or shoot his hand,or shoot his knee cap ,or or shoot him in the foot. and used a shot gun? come-on. i know they were threatened but isnt that a little excessive use of force.why didnt they taze him or pepper spray him.Im not trying to defend him or slam the officers on the scene.but im sure if it was their son or daughter that was in the same boat load of trouble they would go through the roof.
Bob

United States

#2 Sep 27, 2010
JOKER wrote:
Im just a little curious why they did not shoot the knife out of his hand,or shoot his hand,or shoot his knee cap ,or or shoot him in the foot. and used a shot gun? come-on. i know they were threatened but isnt that a little excessive use of force.why didnt they taze him or pepper spray him.Im not trying to defend him or slam the officers on the scene.but im sure if it was their son or daughter that was in the same boat load of trouble they would go through the roof.
They didn't shoot it out of is hand because that is just done in the movies for the most part. Average police officers are not expert shooters and are taught to shoot center mass (center of the upper torso). This method is maximum stopping power and eliminates the threat. Had they shot the suspect in other area, he very well could have continuned towards them and very well could have produced another weapon such as a gun. Officers have a split second to decide what to do, and at the end of the day they are going home to their families. As for the shotgun, it is not uncommon for patrol officers to use in a building search. It provides extra firepower to an unknown threat and very often is a visual detterent to the suspect. Let me ask you this... if someone was coming at you with a knife, would you pepper spray them or shoot them? Better yet, what would you teach your kids? These officers will undergo an investigation that will detail more of the events than we know as arm chair quaterbacks. In the end they will most likely prevail, simply because it was self defense. I for one am glad they made it home safe and on the same token praying for the family of the suspect.
Martin

Chapel Hill, TN

#3 Sep 27, 2010
guys were talking about chapel hill... i live here. nothing ever happens so if it does its gonna be a shoot first ask questions later kind of deal. thats wat we get for living in TN
Thin blue line

Calhoun, LA

#4 Sep 30, 2010
JOKER wrote:
Im just a little curious why they did not shoot the knife out of his hand,or shoot his hand,or shoot his knee cap ,or or shoot him in the foot. and used a shot gun? come-on. i know they were threatened but isnt that a little excessive use of force.why didnt they taze him or pepper spray him.Im not trying to defend him or slam the officers on the scene.but im sure if it was their son or daughter that was in the same boat load of trouble they would go through the roof.
Because you go with your training. Police officers are taught to shoot center mass (chest if you dont know what that is) of the target. The taught reactionary gap is currently 21 feet. That is the distance that an average police officer can draw his/her weapon before the person with the knife can close the distance and cut/stab/kill you. The average person has no clue what is involved in police training, or the weight of responsibility that comes with having to make judgements in a split second.
whatif

Chapel Hill, TN

#5 Sep 30, 2010
Well what if they shoot him in the back?
Thin blue line

Calhoun, LA

#6 Oct 1, 2010
whatif wrote:
Well what if they shoot him in the back?
Depends on the situation. Is the suspect running at another person with a knife? Did the force of the 1st shot hit with enough force to turn the suspect around and the 2nd shot hit him in the back?(This has happen before) Is the suspect a fleeing felon? There are special situations to consider in every shooting. Most are not apparant until an investigation is completed. But the media and armchair quarterbacks will pick an officer apart.
too close

Chapel Hill, TN

#7 Oct 12, 2010
Thin blue line wrote:
<quoted text> Because you go with your training. Police officers are taught to shoot center mass (chest if you dont know what that is) of the target. The taught reactionary gap is currently 21 feet. That is the distance that an average police officer can draw his/her weapon before the person with the knife can close the distance and cut/stab/kill you. The average person has no clue what is involved in police training, or the weight of responsibility that comes with having to make judgements in a split second.
Real close to home. I saw this man before the officers neutralized him. He ran through a fence of my neighbors and then backed over the car of another neighbor that was tryong to assist him. He entered an abandoned warehouse and I am pretty sure he did not turn on the lights when he went in. I am sure he had every opportunity to surrender before he made a lunge for "something". Pretty easy to see it is a knife after all is said and done. Who is going to wait to see if you are going to get shot? I am sure that their families are glad they did what they did. The fine men in blue went home safe. You know if he had got out of truck and sat on tailgate till police came, all this would be irrelevant.

Since: Apr 09

White House, TN

#8 Oct 12, 2010
Martin wrote:
guys were talking about chapel hill... i live here. nothing ever happens so if it does its gonna be a shoot first ask questions later kind of deal. thats wat we get for living in TN
what would you have done if this guy broke into your home and had a knife on your wife or kids? Would you try to talk to him, would you do nothing, would you if you had a gun shoot him not worring where you hit him?

First of all if he hadn't had a knife then I would venture to say he wouldn't have put the officers in position to shoot him.
SLEEPY

Austell, GA

#9 Oct 21, 2010
WHAT IF A BULLFROG HAD WINGS. WHAT A QUESTION?

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Since: Oct 10

College Grove,TN

#10 Nov 1, 2010
too close wrote:
<quoted text>Real close to home. I saw this man before the officers neutralized him. He ran through a fence of my neighbors and then backed over the car of another neighbor that was tryong to assist him. He entered an abandoned warehouse and I am pretty sure he did not turn on the lights when he went in. I am sure he had every opportunity to surrender before he made a lunge for "something". Pretty easy to see it is a knife after all is said and done. Who is going to wait to see if you are going to get shot? I am sure that their families are glad they did what they did. The fine men in blue went home safe. You know if he had got out of truck and sat on tailgate till police came, all this would be irrelevant.
It is a shame Police Officers get a lot of negative publicity. I couldn't imagine being in such a situation. The worse part is someone questioning their split decision as to why they didn't shoot them in the foot! Are you serious? Life is not guaranteed a 2nd chance, choose wisely with your 1st one.
yea its me

Columbia, TN

#11 Jan 6, 2011
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
They didn't shoot it out of is hand because that is just done in the movies for the most part. Average police officers are not expert shooters and are taught to shoot center mass (center of the upper torso). This method is maximum stopping power and eliminates the threat. Had they shot the suspect in other area, he very well could have continuned towards them and very well could have produced another weapon such as a gun. Officers have a split second to decide what to do, and at the end of the day they are going home to their families. As for the shotgun, it is not uncommon for patrol officers to use in a building search. It provides extra firepower to an unknown threat and very often is a visual detterent to the suspect. Let me ask you this... if someone was coming at you with a knife, would you pepper spray them or shoot them? Better yet, what would you teach your kids? These officers will undergo an investigation that will detail more of the events than we know as arm chair quaterbacks. In the end they will most likely prevail, simply because it was self defense. I for one am glad they made it home safe and on the same token praying for the family of the suspect.
if this is bob johnson ex sherif shut up your stupid crucked and illiteate ate your jobs and how procedure should go cover for your little pig buddys
Anonymous

Alexander, AR

#12 Jun 27, 2011
JOKER wrote:
Im just a little curious why they did not shoot the knife out of his hand,or shoot his hand,or shoot his knee cap ,or or shoot him in the foot. and used a shot gun? come-on. i know they were threatened but isnt that a little excessive use of force.why didnt they taze him or pepper spray him.Im not trying to defend him or slam the officers on the scene.but im sure if it was their son or daughter that was in the same boat load of trouble they would go through the roof.
I'll answer that for you. When someone is useing lethal force you, me and the poilce have the right to defnd ourselves and others from that lethal force by using lethal force ourselves. No if you shoot him without a lethal intent then you have used excessive force because if the threat was serious then you would have responded correcly, thus the fact that you felt safe enough to try and wound or mame the attacker will be used against you as evidence that you reall did not take the threat serious and shooting someone ANYWHERE is considered lethal force. Tasers are not 100% effective nor is pepper spray or for that matter even a firearm, the use of non-lethal force against someone using lethal force is ricking not only the officers life but the lives of his co-workers and innocent people the suspect may come across immediately around the area and further down the raod if they get away. In short when it comes to lethal force it is not a game, you are defending your life and the lives of others.
Fly on the Wall

Lewisburg, TN

#13 Feb 10, 2012
For my two cents worth...
WHO WOULD YOU RATHER GO HOME TO THERE FAMILY?
THE GUY WHO BROKE INTO YOUR HOME AND THREATENED YOUR FAMILY ... OR THE OFFICER PROTECTING YOU?
Get real people, if any one breaks into MY HOME... believe me, I will not wait for the police. I am going to SHOOT YOU AND DO MY BEST TO STOP YOU... and if that means you die... well your one dead butt.
I will use a shotgun to do as much damage as I can and if I have to use the revolver, I will empty in you... front coming at me OR back running from me.. if your in MY HOME, your as well as DEAD.. because, THAT IS WHAT YOUR GOING TO DO TO ME IF YOUR BREAKING IN MY HOME... you better do some thinking... people who break into homes are going to kill them..

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