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hwyangel

Rock Hill, SC

#21 Jun 26, 2012
In any culture, the development of self-control is important . This ability provides the basis for mental flexibility, social skills and discipline. It predicts success in education, career and marriage. Childhood self-control is twice as important as intelligence in predicting academic achievement. Conversely, poor self-control in elementary school increases the risk of adult financial difficulties, criminal behavior, single parenthood and drug dependence.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#22 Jun 26, 2012
The problem is that you don't learn self-control in he classroom. That is part of one's upbringing and has to begin when the child is still a toddler at the very least; it's part of discipline.

By the time a kid is old enough for sex ed, they are already set in their emotional responses. any change would need to come from one-on-one or group therapy, not a lecture format.

Another problem is that many people don't agree with abstinence as a life model. They don't see it as practical when puberty now hits at about 10 and the kid may not marry until they are in their late twenties or later.
hwyangel wrote:
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Actually there is a little more to it than that, lol
There are alot of classes for learning self control. And it really does benefit more than just choosing when to conceive rather than being controlled by your feelings and /or emotions. IE: the art of thinking before you act.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#23 Jun 26, 2012
Self-control is part of the parents' responsibilities. But keep in mind, one can be totally in control when one decides to have sex.
hwyangel wrote:
In any culture, the development of self-control is important . This ability provides the basis for mental flexibility, social skills and discipline. It predicts success in education, career and marriage. Childhood self-control is twice as important as intelligence in predicting academic achievement. Conversely, poor self-control in elementary school increases the risk of adult financial difficulties, criminal behavior, single parenthood and drug dependence.
hwyangel

Norwalk, OH

#24 Jun 26, 2012
cpeter1313 wrote:
Self-control is part of the parents' responsibilities. But keep in mind, one can be totally in control when one decides to have sex.
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Self control is more than a moral issue, it is important in all areas of life. Self-control keeps us from eating a whole bag of chips or from running up the credit card , and self-control make the difference between getting a good job or going to jail. And I do respect other peoples beliefs of self expression for their teens even if I don't agree with it. I'm only saying , to be fair, that if those parents who do teach their children self control are going to subject their children to sex education classes that obviously cater to the children of those who encourage self expression, that both options are being taught. After all what is self expression when there is only one options offered? I do believe they call that a political agenda.
hwyangel

Norwalk, OH

#25 Jun 26, 2012
cpeter1313 wrote:
The problem is that you don't learn self-control in he classroom. That is part of one's upbringing and has to begin when the child is still a toddler at the very least; it's part of discipline.
By the time a kid is old enough for sex ed, they are already set in their emotional responses. any change would need to come from one-on-one or group therapy, not a lecture format.
Another problem is that many people don't agree with abstinence as a life model. They don't see it as practical when puberty now hits at about 10 and the kid may not marry until they are in their late twenties or later.
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Narcissistic personality disorder is one of several types of personality disorders. Personality disorders are conditions in which people have traits that cause them to feel and behave in socially distressing ways,limiting their ability to function in relationships and in other areas of their life,such as work or school.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#26 Jun 26, 2012
A sex ed class shouldn't be teaching self-expression; it should be teaching the medical and biological facts concerning sexual activity. It should neither condone nor condemn. Teach them how their bodies work, what sexual activities are about, and how to protect themselves against pregnancy and STD's. It should include the realities for both straight and gay kids.
hwyangel wrote:
<quoted text>
Self control is more than a moral issue, it is important in all areas of life. Self-control keeps us from eating a whole bag of chips or from running up the credit card , and self-control make the difference between getting a good job or going to jail. And I do respect other peoples beliefs of self expression for their teens even if I don't agree with it. I'm only saying , to be fair, that if those parents who do teach their children self control are going to subject their children to sex education classes that obviously cater to the children of those who encourage self expression, that both options are being taught. After all what is self expression when there is only one options offered? I do believe they call that a political agenda.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#27 Jun 26, 2012
Which is totally irrelevant to the issue at hand.
hwyangel wrote:
<quoted text>
Narcissistic personality disorder is one of several types of personality disorders. Personality disorders are conditions in which people have traits that cause them to feel and behave in socially distressing ways,limiting their ability to function in relationships and in other areas of their life,such as work or school.
hwyangel

Mansfield, OH

#28 Jun 27, 2012
cpeter1313 wrote:
A sex ed class shouldn't be teaching self-expression; it should be teaching the medical and biological facts concerning sexual activity. It should neither condone nor condemn. Teach them how their bodies work, what sexual activities are about, and how to protect themselves against pregnancy and STD's. It should include the realities for both straight and gay kids.
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Self control is birth control. The most effective kind of birth control. Im not protesting sex education, I protesting the limitations being placed on certain kinds of sex education, namely self control. Another would be the extended risks related to homosexual sex, or that condoms are not manufactured as a contraceptive. Another would be parenting. Obviously not everyone will "choose" to remain childless, and there are many professions that require some knowledge of child care. Like, doctors, teachers, fireman, police, and social workers.
hwyangel

Mansfield, OH

#29 Jun 27, 2012
cpeter1313 wrote:
Which is totally irrelevant to the issue at hand.
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This is the medical definition of those who are not able to control their actions.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#30 Jun 27, 2012
I indicated birth control in the "protecting themselves from STD's and pregnancy" portion. Further more, it needs to be taught that BC is both partner's responsibility.

Homosexual sex is no riskier than straight sex; both require using protection. Condoms most certainly ARE made as contraceptive; they are one of the best barrier methods out there.

Parenting and child-care classes are a separate issue.
hwyangel wrote:
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Self control is birth control. The most effective kind of birth control. Im not protesting sex education, I protesting the limitations being placed on certain kinds of sex education, namely self control. Another would be the extended risks related to homosexual sex, or that condoms are not manufactured as a contraceptive. Another would be parenting. Obviously not everyone will "choose" to remain childless, and there are many professions that require some knowledge of child care. Like, doctors, teachers, fireman, police, and social workers.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#31 Jun 27, 2012
There are many conditions that cause people to lose control of their actions, from OCD to tourette's to impulse control dissociative behavior. You are presuming that people can't control their actions when in fact they choose not to; at least not in the way you think they should.
hwyangel wrote:
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This is the medical definition of those who are not able to control their actions.
hwyangel

Crete, IL

#32 Jun 28, 2012
cpeter1313 wrote:
I indicated birth control in the "protecting themselves from STD's and pregnancy" portion. Further more, it needs to be taught that BC is both partner's responsibility.
Homosexual sex is no riskier than straight sex; both require using protection. Condoms most certainly ARE made as contraceptive; they are one of the best barrier methods out there.
Parenting and child-care classes are a separate issue.
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Of two teens ,and two to four parents, only one needs to be able to say "NO". That's alot of irresponsible people.
And no disrespect intended I am not placing blame, but their is a reason that gay men are banned from donating blood. It would be cruel not educate kids on this increased risk.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#33 Jun 28, 2012
Parents are rarely included in the process of two teens deciding to have sex.

HIV hit gays and IV drug users here first (unlike the rest of the world, in which straights were vastly more often infected).

It was able to establish because nobody knew what it was or how it was transmitted. Once the facts were known and safe sex guidelines were established, the transmission rate plummeted. Only about 5% of all gay men have HIV, and virtually no lesbians. On the other hand, the numbers keep increasing for straight people, especially ethnic women. Why aren't we banning them?

There will always be a sector of the population that refuses to use safe sex; always has been, always will. That why y'all have a near-million abortion rate each year.
hwyangel wrote:
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Of two teens ,and two to four parents, only one needs to be able to say "NO". That's alot of irresponsible people.
And no disrespect intended I am not placing blame, but their is a reason that gay men are banned from donating blood. It would be cruel not educate kids on this increased risk.
unborn defender

Jersey City, NJ

#34 Jun 28, 2012
homosexuality is a sin against God. Gay people must find strength through Jesus to change their lifestyle. We all have to find strength through Jesus to follow Gods path for us. Homosexuality is a sin and turning from God won't change that.
Ocean56

AOL

#35 Jun 28, 2012
hwyangel wrote:
Actually there is a little more to it than that, lol
There are alot of classes for learning self control. And it really does benefit more than just choosing when to conceive rather than being controlled by your feelings and /or emotions. IE: the art of thinking before you act.
There's actually one good way to teach teens that being sexFREE in middle and high school is the ONLY way to guarantee that teen girls don't get pregnant.

The instructor can tape the sound of a baby crying/screaming for about 10-15 minutes, then bring that tape into the classroom and play it for the full 10-15 minutes...at a fairly high volume. Then, after turning it off -- finally -- the instructor can cheerfully ask: "Who wants to be a teen mom and have to listen to a crying/screaming baby for what could be several hours?"

I would bet almost every teen would answer "NOT ME!"

Then the instructor would reply, "I didn't think so. So if you girls would rather go to your dances and proms, and graduate from high school than becoming a teen mom and possibly ruin all your plans, the best way to do that is to be sexFREE."

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#36 Jun 28, 2012
Being both gay an an atheist, your post means nothing at all to me.
unborn defender wrote:
homosexuality is a sin against God. Gay people must find strength through Jesus to change their lifestyle. We all have to find strength through Jesus to follow Gods path for us. Homosexuality is a sin and turning from God won't change that.

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