On the Jehovah's Witness ...

On the Jehovah's Witness ...

There are 45 comments on the HeraldSun.com story from Jun 27, 2012, titled On the Jehovah's Witness .... In it, HeraldSun.com reports that:

BY DAWN BAUMGARTNER VAUGHAN dvaughan@heraldsun.com; 919-419-6563 DURHAM - For the past year, Mike and Erica Pack have served 21 different Jehovah's Witnesses congregations in the greater Durham area, going out in the field ministry door-to-door and getting to know the Witnesses at the Kingdom Halls.

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“Tell the WORLD about JESUS”

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#43 Jul 1, 2012
Witness of Jehovah God wrote:
The faithful and loyal witness knows that Satan is effective, thousands are disfellowshiped every year for conduct unbecoming a true Christian.
Those who leave on their own, do so because they cannot continue in God's service without his holy spirit, and if you lose Jehovah's holy spirit you cannot think spiritually anymore, you only think according to the flesh.
That means that you disfellowship yourself and you think thoughts influenced by Satan and not by influence of God's holy spirit.
Galatians 5:22
You mentioned " they cannot continue in God's service without his holy spirit "

DO JW'S have Gods Holy Spirit?

“Tell the WORLD about JESUS”

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#44 Jul 1, 2012
"where you can be fed spiritually by Jehovah God"

Are JW's feed spiritually by Jehovah God???

I know they read THEIR bible & Awakes & WT mags- but I have seen VERY LITTLE- LIKE NOT AT ALL- fervent prayer or seeking of Jehovahs Holy Spirit- just a dry prayer before & after meetings, conventions, home studies- NEVER have I seen a JW apply what the bible teaches about Prayer or seeking Jehovahs holy Spirit-

Am I wrong? Or do they have prayer meetings or prayer & fasting times Im not aware of?

I am truly curious about this- not asking to be judgmental- just truly want to know
Witness of Jehovah God

Mannford, OK

#45 Jul 1, 2012
Jesus_Witness wrote:
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You mentioned " they cannot continue in God's service without his holy spirit "
DO JW'S have Gods Holy Spirit?
Jehovah's witnesses are guided by God's holy spirit, that means the Bible is the only truth and the only way to live in this world, to have Jehovah God's approval and our reigning King Jesus.
Jehovah's witnesses must produce the fruitage of God's holy spirit.
Galatians 5:22
John 16:12-14

God's holy spirit is the motivating power that humans need to do what God's word the Bible is directing us today, before the end of this world. And if you disregard or grieve that direction, you are making the decision to live your own way, that is all.

There are no gifts of the holy spirit today, the ability to work miracles in the power of Almighty God Jehovah as Jesus did and the apostles, that power was done away with when the last apostle died.
Anyone can ask Jehovah God for his holy spirit to endure any trial in these last days, Jehovah loves all mankind and wants them to know he is there for them.
Matthew 7:7-11

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#46 Jul 1, 2012
Your saying "There are no gifts of the holy spirit today, the ability to work miracles in the power of Almighty God Jehovah as Jesus did and the apostles, that power was done away with when the last apostle died."

1cor 13
8 Love never fails. But whether there are [gifts of] prophesying, they will be done away with; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will be done away with. 9 ********For we have partial knowledge and we prophesy partially; ********10 but when that which is complete arrives (meaning JESUS), that which is partial will be done away with.******

We will have the gifts of the Holy Spirit until he returns, not when the last apostle died, what since dose the last apostle dying have to do with this scripture? How is it about a apostle dying when it says something is ARRIVING "10 but when that which is complete arrives"

Ive heard some say this means when the Bible cannon was completed- a better argument than the last apostle dying- but that is also not correct in light of the rest of this verse...

Paul goes on to explain it for us....
11 When I was a babe, I used to speak as a babe, to think as a babe, to reason as a babe; but now that I have become a man (GROWN UP), I have done away with the [traits] of a babe. 12 For at present we see in hazy outline by means of a metal mirror, but then it will be >>>face to face<<<.******At present I know partially*******, but then I shall *****know accurately***** even as I am accurately known.

WE WILL KNOW ACCURATELY GOD & HIS LOVE FACE TO FACE, that is why he then says....

13 ***Now***(in his time also...and in his time they had the active holy spirit gifts), however,****there remain****(there will remain ALWAYS-even after we see Jesus face to face) faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is ****love****

Why, because when we are with Jesus Face to Face in the millennium we will no longer need the gifts of the spirit- because there will be no sicknesses, sin, ect- but we will always have & need FAITH HOPE & ESPECIALLY LOVE- FOR GOD IS LOVE

I get so sick of hearing the ONLY ONE verse being pointed out & folks believe it because a MAN told them its "Truth" when Gods word says...

Isaiah 28:10
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
****Not Just One mis-understood verse- his word verifies its self- line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little there a little- NOT JUST ONCE****

Matthew 18:16
But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

2 Corinthians 13:1
This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.

THE ONES WHO believe & peddle this milarky that the holy spirit is different today are not following biblical principles to verify how they interpret 1 Cor 13- it is the ONLY ONE verse they use to say a very BIG proclamation- that the Holy Spirit Changed- & ignore the MANY scriptures that say different.

“Tell the WORLD about JESUS”

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#47 Jul 1, 2012
I dont mean to over load you with a TRUE Bible Study, but look into these....

Matthew 1:18
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child ***of the Holy Ghost***.

Matthew 3:11
I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with ***the Holy Ghost***, and with ***fire***:

Luke 11:13
If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

John 7:37....Jesus was standing up and he cried out, saying:“If anyone is thirsty, let him come to me and drink. 38 He that puts faith in me, just as the Scripture has said,‘Out from his inmost part streams of living water will flow.’” 39 However, he said this concerning the spirit which those who put faith in him were about to receive; for as yet there was no spirit,***because Jesus had not yet been glorified***.

John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send ***in my name***, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Acts 20:28
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Romans 14:17
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

Romans 15:13
Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the ***power of the Holy Ghost***.

Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Jude 1:20
But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith,****praying in the Holy Ghost***,

1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one****The Greek says "ONE" not "in agreement"****as the watered down NWT states.

Acts 2:4
And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Heb 13:8
8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today, and forever.

***Watch Out honey....the WTO's teaching on 1 cor 13 sounds alot like the warning to us in 2 tim 3:5****

5 Having a form of godliness, but >>>>denying the power thereof<<<<: from such ****turn away****.

6 For of this sort are they which ****creep into houses****, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7 ****Ever learning****, and >>>never<<< able to come to the >>>>knowledge of the truth<<<<.

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