Firearms rally scheduled for Chambers...

Firearms rally scheduled for Chambersburg's square

There are 11003 comments on the Chambersburg Public Opinion story from Mar 29, 2013, titled Firearms rally scheduled for Chambersburg's square. In it, Chambersburg Public Opinion reports that:

Two local organizations are hosting a Second Amendment Freedom Rally on from noone to 2 p.m. April 6 on Courthouse Plaza in downtown Chambersburg.

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Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#5907 Aug 23, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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So blame the mother for leaving the gun where her mentally ill son could find it. What legislation would have prevented this?
LMAO!

It's like I can read minds or predict the future...
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
The gunners just shrug and walk away because there's nothing that could have possibly prevented this.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#5908 Aug 23, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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How do you propose making violent criminals "no longer a threat to the general public?" Will just living in a cell accomplish that or will it take some sort of rehabilitation?
We stopped locking up mentally ill people 50 years ago and the violent crime rate has decreased. Your proposal makes no rational sense.
And yes...someone locked up in a jail cell, AWAY FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC, is no longer a threat to the general public. If they want to act like animals....lock their ass up like one. I don't give a shit if they are rehabbed or not. Let 'em rot.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#5909 Aug 23, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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That is NOT what I am advocating.
What are YOU advocating? Doing nothing? Do you have some suggestions or is all you're capable of is standing on the sidelines and criticizing everything everyone else suggests?
Doing nothing?

What part of locking up the violent and dangerous, and educating the young do you not understand???

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#5910 Aug 23, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Danny Boy! I was talking about you not to you. So now you're going to attempt to project your projection on to others as well? Isn't that a bit redundant.....even for you? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!
To me or about me - you were still projecting.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#5911 Aug 23, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Here a good regulation to kick it off. How about keeping violent criminals looked up behind bars until they are no longer a threat to the general public. With a recividism rate of over 50% for violent thugs, that would be an EXCELLENT place to start. In fact....let's do that for the mentally ill who are a danger to themselves and others as well.
Sound good?
Danny Boy has rejected this course of action on numerous occasions. He's too wrapped up in the liberal policies that keep putting criminals and psychos back out on the streets to commit more crimes over and over. You have suggested the same logical solution that I did when I first started posting here. Liberal leftists like Danny Boy simply refuse to hear of it. They prefer to hold all of society responsible and legislate against EVERYBODY rather than take aim at the root of the problem, which is all of those psychos and criminals walking free among us.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#5912 Aug 23, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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By leaving them locked up until they are no longer violent or dead. PERIOD. How exactly do you plan on rehabbing someone who is a violent criminal???
And are suggesting alink between releasing the mentall ill and crime rates going down???
And my proposal makes PERFECT sense. If some people are a danger to the general public, put them in a place where they will NOT be a danger to the public. I can't explain it any simpler than that.
Okay, incarceration for life for every violent criminal. Sounds expensive, but at least you've suggested SOMETHING.

No, I'm not suggesting a link. I'm saying it's a terrible idea with no evidence to support it's need or effectiveness.

The problem with your "lock em up and throw away the key" approach is that it's been tried and it didn't work. One reason that it didn't work is because previously non-violent people become violent. And often its unpredictable.

So even if every previously violent person went away, there will still be an ever increasing number of newly violent people. Eventually you'll run out of jails and money and the rate of violence will be unchanged.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#5913 Aug 23, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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And yes...someone locked up in a jail cell, AWAY FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC, is no longer a threat to the general public. If they want to act like animals....lock their ass up like one. I don't give a shit if they are rehabbed or not. Let 'em rot.
Yeah, I got that. Thanks.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#5914 Aug 23, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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To me or about me - you were still projecting.
Not at all, that's your department. I'm just someone who will point it out every time you attempt it. Try again Dan the little man.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#5915 Aug 23, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Doing nothing?
What part of locking up the violent and dangerous, and educating the young do you not understand???
You do understand that every violent person was not violent at some point, right? People who have never killed kill. People who have never shot anyone before become shooters.

It's not like we're dealing with a discrete, stable number of people. People with no history of violence murder their families. People with no history of violence shoot up schools and movie theaters. Locking them up AFTERWARD doesn't prevent that.

Do you have any PREVENTATIVE solutions? Or is "let them rot" the best you have?

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#5916 Aug 23, 2013
Squach wrote:
They prefer to hold all of society responsible and legislate against EVERYBODY rather than take aim at the root of the problem, which is all of those psychos and criminals walking free among us.
So is this a strawman or mind reading?

Or both?

LMAO!

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#5917 Aug 23, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Not at all, that's your department. I'm just someone who will point it out every time you attempt it. Try again Dan the little man.
I see you've reverted to 100% personal attacks 100% of the time.

Like I said the FIRST TIME you abandoned the debate and initiated personal attacks against me: Rightwingers can only hold it together for so long. They come with a veneer of respectfulness and politeness, but when you confront their lies and distortions and reveal the illogic of their arguments, they're all the same - angry, vulgar name-callers.

Thanks for staying true to form and proving me right.

Again.

LOL!

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#5918 Aug 23, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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LMAO!
It's like I can read minds or predict the future...
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So you are laughing at making the person responsible for leaving the gun where her mentally ill son had access to it accountable for her actions???

What exactly do you have against PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY? A responsible person would have made sure that the shotgun was either locked up or removed from the house so the son couldn't get to it, wouldn't they??? Remember....there are already laws against reckless endangerment (and wouldn't the mother's irresponsible actions be considered reckless???). A lot of good they did, huh??

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#5919 Aug 23, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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So you are laughing at making the person responsible for leaving the gun where her mentally ill son had access to it accountable for her actions???
No, I'm laughing at you doing what I predicted you would do.

Because it was funny.

YOU'RE funny.

LOL!

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#5920 Aug 23, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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You do understand that every violent person was not violent at some point, right? People who have never killed kill. People who have never shot anyone before become shooters.
It's not like we're dealing with a discrete, stable number of people. People with no history of violence murder their families. People with no history of violence shoot up schools and movie theaters. Locking them up AFTERWARD doesn't prevent that.
Do you have any PREVENTATIVE solutions? Or is "let them rot" the best you have?
And when they do commit these heinous acts....you lock them up and throw away the fucking key. PERIOD!

Don't tell me you think the movie Minority Report where Tom Cruise is a futuristic cop where three special people can predict crimes before they happen is a documentary??? LMAO!!!

Until you can invent a better crystal ball that can help the powers that be predict the future, the best you have is education and punishment. No law passed EVER stopped someone bent on destruction from accomplishing that goal. NONE! And those that commit these attrocious acts RARELY do so just on a whim. In just about every case, there were signals beforehand that these people "who just snap" were getting ready to. Those around them simply ignored the signs or played it off believing "they would never do something like that". Not to mention that these cases are EXTREMELY RARE. They just get more airtime and sensationalized by the media.

You want to live in a free/free-er society? It comes with some risks. If not....MOVE to whatever socialist shithole you can find! You WILL NOT remove my right to protect me and mine with an effective weapon from these wastes of human flesh.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#5921 Aug 23, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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Okay, incarceration for life for every violent criminal. Sounds expensive, but at least you've suggested SOMETHING.
No, I'm not suggesting a link. I'm saying it's a terrible idea with no evidence to support it's need or effectiveness.
The problem with your "lock em up and throw away the key" approach is that it's been tried and it didn't work. One reason that it didn't work is because previously non-violent people become violent. And often its unpredictable.
So even if every previously violent person went away, there will still be an ever increasing number of newly violent people. Eventually you'll run out of jails and money and the rate of violence will be unchanged.
For the worst offenders...execution. If the others won't behave...leave their ass in there until they do or they can suffer the same fate. And I am all for building more jails. That's the problem with you libtards. You fail to believe that there are people out there who are inherently EVIL and want nothing to do with being rehabilitated. Put them down like a rabid dog and be done with them. PERIOD!

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#5922 Aug 23, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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And when they do commit these heinous acts....you lock them up and throw away the fucking key. PERIOD!
Don't tell me you think the movie Minority Report where Tom Cruise is a futuristic cop where three special people can predict crimes before they happen is a documentary??? LMAO!!!
Until you can invent a better crystal ball that can help the powers that be predict the future, the best you have is education and punishment. No law passed EVER stopped someone bent on destruction from accomplishing that goal. NONE! And those that commit these attrocious acts RARELY do so just on a whim. In just about every case, there were signals beforehand that these people "who just snap" were getting ready to. Those around them simply ignored the signs or played it off believing "they would never do something like that". Not to mention that these cases are EXTREMELY RARE. They just get more airtime and sensationalized by the media.
You want to live in a free/free-er society? It comes with some risks. If not....MOVE to whatever socialist shithole you can find! You WILL NOT remove my right to protect me and mine with an effective weapon from these wastes of human flesh.
Seriously, you need to calm down. It's impossible to have rational debate with someone so emotional.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#5923 Aug 23, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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No, I'm laughing at you doing what I predicted you would do.
Because it was funny.
YOU'RE funny.
LOL!
You didn't predict shit. I said to make the mother responsible for her irresponsible behavior. Or do you not believe in punishing people for their actions (or in this case irresponsible inaction)???

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#5924 Aug 23, 2013
Beer-thirty...I'm outta here.
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#5925 Aug 23, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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Source please.
Vice President Joe Biden

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Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#5926 Aug 23, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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So is this a strawman or mind reading?
Or both?
LMAO!
Neither. Just the FACTS, Dan the little man.

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