Brewing Republican Civil War

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#21 Feb 11, 2013
My question is - how are those of us in the empirical-based universe supposed to tell the two sides apart?

If you want to purge the party of the loonies, how do you identify them?

Which of their ideas are too crazy to allow?
Denying climate change?
Attacks on gay rights?
Attacks on Hispanic immigrants?
Support of "self-deportation?
Attacks on food stamps?
Supply-side economics?

Seriously, when the mainstream of the GOP hold radically irrational positions, how is anyone to tell who the loonies are and who the "establishment" is?
Wolfgang

Chambersburg, PA

#22 Feb 11, 2013
Nerd Rage wrote:
Ignore this thread.
DTM started it only to try to remove the "Obama is the worst President ever" thread. Please notice that he posted the first (5) posts to lure people to post here. Just let this one die and go back to the "Obama is the worst President ever".
Good idea to ignore this thread. That's my plan

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#23 Feb 11, 2013
Wolfgang wrote:
<quoted text>Good idea to ignore this thread. That's my plan
Good. This thread is for people who are capable of critical thinking and logical reasoning.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#24 Feb 11, 2013
The wingnuts don't like me pointing out their civil war. Maybe they'll listen to one of their own...

The Civil War Has Begun
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/...

LOL!

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#25 Feb 11, 2013
Mike Huckabee is pretty darn mad at Karl Rove...

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HUCKABEE: I think Karl needs to go through a metamorphosis. You know this idea that somehow a handful of Republicans are going to attack Republicans that the handful doesn't like? I find that repulsive. I find it absolutely repulsive.

This is not how you build a strong Republican Party, is by going after the people in your party who are different than you are. This is fratricide.

And if the Republican Party wants to render itself utterly, utterly irrelevant, the best way to do it is to become several little parties within the party, which is apparently what some folks seem to think we ought to do.

When you marginalize the Tea Party, marginalize the pro-life and pro-family part of the party, you lose every election coming up in the future. You lose every election. There may be a few local elections that you might win in some places outside the base of the party, but you're not going to win a national election again.

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ROFLMAO!

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#26 Feb 12, 2013
Uh oh! Nate Silver doesn't think Rove will be successful...

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The voters who do turn out in Republican Senate primaries are likely to be highly informed consumers of conservative-friendly news media outlets such as talk radio, prime-time shows on Fox News and conservative magazines and blogs.

They may also weigh the endorsements of prominent conservative politicians and organizations.

An insurgent candidate who is presented in a favorable light in these outlets may have plenty of ability to reach her target voters, even if she is spending little or nothing on paid advertisements and outreach efforts.

Mr. Rove’s efforts could backfire, therefore, if they result in the insurgent candidate receiving more sympathetic treatment through these channels; the amount of so-called “earned media” that the insurgent receives could outweigh the extra advertisements that the establishment candidate is able to afford.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2013...

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I wonder how many millions of dollars of other people's money Rove will have to spend before rich wingnuts figure that out. LOL!

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#27 Feb 20, 2013
Tea party group pictures Rove in Nazi uniform

A top tea party group is taking its clash with Karl Rove to a new level, sending out a fundraising email Tuesday featuring a photoshopped image of the GOP operative in an SS uniform.

“Wipe the Smirk Off Karl Rove’s Face,” reads the subject line of the email, from Jenny Beth Martin, co-founder and national coordinator of the Tea Party Patriots.

The email features a photo illustration in which Rove’s face is grafted onto a photo of a uniformed officer in the Reichsführer-SS, an elite rank during Adolf Hitler’s Third Reich. The lower left-hand corner of the photo features the inscriptions “Reichsführer-SS” and “K. Rove,” and appears to match a photo of SS Reichsführer Heinrich Himmler.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/tea-par...

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#32 Jun 4, 2013
Deep rifts within the GOP...

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GOP governors’ endorsements of Medicaid expansion deepen rifts within party

Republican fissures over the expansion of Medicaid, a critical piece of the 2010 health-care law designed to provide coverage to millions of uninsured Americans, continue to deepen, with battles in Arizona and elsewhere showing just how bitter the divisions have become.
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These conflicts over the health-care law illustrate a larger divide within the Republican Party over an array of issues, including immigration and automatic budget cuts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health...

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#33 Jun 4, 2013
House Republicans broken into fighting factions

That vote, to avert the “fiscal cliff,” marked a breaking point for House Republicans, who had disintegrated into squabbling factions, no longer able to agree on — much less execute — some of the most basic government functions.
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The coming battles will test Boehner’s power and, many Republicans privately suggested, potentially reveal whether it’s time for him to go.

“This is a big summer and fall, a test for all concerned,” said Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), a close Boehner ally.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-...

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#35 Sep 12, 2013
Uh oh - it's getting much, much worse on the right...

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Norquist Has Leadership’s Back Against Heritage, Club for Growth

It's not hard to find frustration with Heritage Action and the Club for Growth among senior Republicans, who believe the groups' demand that they include Obamacare defunding language on any spending bill keeping the government open will ultimately empower Democrats in a series of fall battles over spending. They believe it's part of a pattern of pushing untenable demands that have no chance of becoming law.

"Heritage Action and Club for Growth are slowly becoming irrelevant Neanderthals," one senior GOP aide said.

http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/norquist-emerge...
bobby6464

Portland, OR

#36 Sep 12, 2013
Tea bag aggression is all talk and no action. Is Obama care still the law? you betcha

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#38 Nov 18, 2013
The Star Tribune:

Conservative group spending down, sign of GOP division as tea party jockeys for influence

The biggest Republican-leaning money machines are spending dramatically less this year to help the party ahead of the 2014 Senate elections, two years after millions of dollars in early advertising by outside groups against Democrats backfired in embarrassing losses in otherwise winnable races.

Groups such as American Crossroads and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce no longer are willing to risk major investments on hard-line conservatives who embarrassed GOP leaders last fall and rattled the confidence of party donors. Many remain concerned after last month's government shutdown highlighted Republican divisions.

"Is the malaise still there? Yes," said Lisa Wagner, a Republican fundraiser in the Chicago area. "But they are nervous about giving in light of the shutdown."

Outside spending on television ads designed to benefit Republican Senate candidates is down almost 60 percent compared with two years ago, according to spending reports provided to The Associated Press. There are signs that the shift is shaping the national fight for the Senate majority.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#39 Nov 18, 2013
Wickham: Tea Party launches second civil war

JACKSON, Miss.-- Welcome to the Republican civil war, Mississippi division.

Tea Party linked activist groups have already fired the first salvo in the fight for the U.S. Senate seat held by Republican Thad Cochran. By campaigning to unseat Cochran, the Senate's second-longest serving Republican, they threaten to turn the skirmishes with the GOP mainstream into full-fledged combat.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/11...

Since: Nov 13

Location hidden

#42 Nov 28, 2013
In a poll, "53 percent of young Republican voters... under age 35 said that they would describe a climate [change] denier as 'ignorant,''out of touch' or 'crazy.'"

http://www.politifact.com/rhode-island/statem...

Since: Aug 13

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#49 Nov 30, 2013
Yeah the Republicans are fighting but the Democrats are trying to decide which side to join. They are running from President Obama like scared rabbits from a big hound and just like rabbits they will try to finds a hole to hide in until the fury over Obama Care passes but it is not going to pass. They are going to have to face the music in their districts come next Nov.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/democrats-start...
Link

Marysville, CA

#52 Nov 30, 2013
Irelands own wrote:
LIBERAL ARGUEMENT PLAYBOOK
Use these tactics when debating an informed conservative....
1. Ignore facts that hurt your position.....when that doesn't work
2. Say "It's Bush's fault"...when that doesn't work.....
3. Call them a racist and than run away!
Confront them with facts and they call you hateful, racist and mean. I think they should lock the democrats up in a camp, give them three meals a day, their medical care, provided by military medics in training and march their butts to work every day doing something. They want us to take care of them then we can but on our terms.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#53 Dec 11, 2013
This morning:

House Speaker John A. Boehner delivered an uncharacteristically forceful response to conservative groups lining up against the budget compromise announced Tuesday, accusing them of “using” people to advance their own goals rather than the GOP’s.

Speaking with reporters at the Capitol on Wednesday, the Ohio Republican mocked the powerful conservative forces that he said were staking out opposition to the deal even before its full details were public.

“They're using our members and they're using the American people for their own goals,” Boehner charged.“This is ridiculous.“If you're for more deficit reduction, you're for this agreement,” he added.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#54 Dec 11, 2013
This afternoon:

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell will vote against the deal brokered by Republican Rep. Paul Ryan and Democratic Sen. Patty Murray, a knowledgeable source close to the Kentucky Republican told The Daily Caller on Wednesday.

While the budget proposal is expected to pass the Democratic-controlled Senate, McConnell joins a growing list of Republican senators — including Marco Rubio of Florida, Tom Coburn of Oklahoma and Rand Paul of Kentucky — who oppose the deal.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#55 Dec 11, 2013
LMAO!

It seems that the leader of the Senate GOP is being used by outside groups, is being ridiculous, and doesn't care about deficit reduction.

At least, that's the logical conclusion of Boehner's thinking on the subject.

LMAO!

I love it when the wingnuts eat their own!

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#57 Dec 12, 2013
Did the inept, orange Speaker finally grow a pair?

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Republicans and Tea Party Activists in 'Full Scale Civil War'

House Speaker John Boehner, whose strategies have been repeatedly thwarted by Tea Party revolts in recent years, was blunt today when asked whether he thought the ultra-conservatives should get in line.

"I don't care what they do," Boehner replied.

The speaker lashed out at Tea Party activists.

"Well, frankly, I think they're misleading their followers," House Speaker John Boehner told reporters today. "I think they're pushing our members in places where they don't want to be." "And frankly, I just think that they've lost all credibility," Boehner said…

...Relations were further strained when Republican leaders on Wednesday fired high level staffer Paul Teller, who often served as the liaison between members of Congress and outside activists…

...Brent Bozell, chairman of For America, a Tea Party group that undersigned a letter to Republican leadership Wednesday night from more than 30 Tea Party groups angry over Teller's dismissal, said that his removal was an act of war.

"They were just out to get rid of him in a declaration of war on conservatives which is really, really stupid," Bozell said. "They're trying to intimidate conservatives and this one is going to backfire on them."

"They've now made it personal," he added. "It is now a personal attack on conservatives."

According to Bozell, communication between Congressional leaders and outside activist groups is now "very, very bad."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republicans-te...

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