Borough of Chambersburg might assist ...

Borough of Chambersburg might assist landlords by cutting off delin...

There are 82 comments on the Public Opinion story from May 26, 2010, titled Borough of Chambersburg might assist landlords by cutting off delin.... In it, Public Opinion reports that:

A crowd of more than 150 Chambersburg landlords cheered Wednesday night at the idea of removing the borough's moratorium on wintertime utility disconnects for nonpayment.

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the system sucks

Jersey Shore, PA

#67 May 27, 2010
then why does your name have Carlisle beside it? Regardless we all agree that there are deadbeats out there. THe only thing that we all need to see is that there are deadbeats on both sides. I have an awesome landlord now. I have had him for 2 years and no problems on either side. The Borough has no right to get into legal issues especially when they only are siding with the landlords. They are not attorneys and should not be acting as such. Not everyone who has a problem paying the electric bill is a crack whore or an alcoholic. My heating bills for the winter was more than most peoples house payments because of landlord negligence.
Yup Yup

Newville, PA

#68 May 27, 2010
Kevin Tharp wouldn't know the Constitution if he got hit up side the head with it.

It's funny that he is so vocal in all of this, when we all know that he and his section 8 rentals are part of the problem.

Mr. Tharp is a perfect example of the kind of landlord that doesn't care about anything but money. Even the other landlords in town will tell you that he's a slumlord, plain and simple.

I've seen some of his rentals and in my opinion they are disgusting. I certainly wouldn't live in one and I can't imagine any decent person would. And that, in a nutshell, is why he rents to who he rents to. They are the only kind of people willing to live in such a place. It's a disgrace and he deserves whatever punishment he gets.

Don't want regulation Kevin? CLEAN UP YOUR RENTALS!
cant do it

Lewisburg, PA

#69 May 27, 2010
Spent 2 years in C'Burg and lived in the Boro. Love Franklin Co., know it better than most locals. Good people, regradless of income/race!!
Must admit only time I was nervous in Franklin CO was fishing where the locals feared to tread.

It was out on the Western side of the Co., take a dirt road prior to to RT. 75{?}. Drive up that dirt road and with a steep embankment to fish for wild Brook trout. Beware of SNAKES, and I was. Never saw anyone else fishing.
I think the locals wanted me to be bit, once I wasnt...I was in. GOOD PEOPLE.

Take your town back C'Burg, from my experience....it was a good place as was franlkin Co.

Slumlords, move on.
No Heart

United States

#70 May 27, 2010
liker wrote:
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you ppl need to get your priorities straight and hopefully since they are putting that bank in CASHS it will help future chambersburg generations.
if u had a 3600 med bill you could make monthly payments on that bill & as long as you pay something a month you are good vs your electric which took priority bc that would be shut off and was.
all it takes is a little planning for a budget and you can make it work bc it isnt how much money you make it is how you spend and manage it.
The copay for the ER was my utility bill money. So...LIVE with no electricity or DIE? Write me when you have to make that choice.
liker

Carlisle, PA

#71 May 27, 2010
No Heart wrote:
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The copay for the ER was my utility bill money. So...LIVE with no electricity or DIE? Write me when you have to make that choice.
BS- your copay can be billed to you after the fact. You are ill informed and the longer you make excuses the longer you are going to find yourself in bum situations.
Take ownership on all aspects of your life, and prepare for setbacks because they always happen but they don't have to break you!
liker

Carlisle, PA

#72 May 27, 2010
No Heart wrote:
However, I also think everyone should experience having them shut off because the moment those lights flicker back on, you realize what a privilege it is to have electricity.
Why? I don't need to go without something to realize it's importance.

No Heart wrote:
I suspect the landlords in this town have a heck of a lot more money than me. Have a heart and don't make people freeze in the winter. I don't understand how that is humane.
You suspect landlords have more money then you therefore they owe you something? Wow, we have a "poor me" here, folks.
Get your *** in gear and get it together. There is no reason why a young single woman shouldn't be able to provide for herself.
Jay H

Paoli, PA

#73 May 27, 2010
Yup Yup wrote:
Kevin Tharp wouldn't know the Constitution if he got hit up side the head with it.
It's funny that he is so vocal in all of this, when we all know that he and his section 8 rentals are part of the problem.
Mr. Tharp is a perfect example of the kind of landlord that doesn't care about anything but money. Even the other landlords in town will tell you that he's a slumlord, plain and simple.
I've seen some of his rentals and in my opinion they are disgusting. I certainly wouldn't live in one and I can't imagine any decent person would. And that, in a nutshell, is why he rents to who he rents to. They are the only kind of people willing to live in such a place. It's a disgrace and he deserves whatever punishment he gets.
Don't want regulation Kevin? CLEAN UP YOUR RENTALS!
I happen to agree. I find it interesting that this supposed church-going man keeps his properties in the shape they're in. I also find it interesting that he seems to have a hard time controlling his temper in public meetings. A dose of professionalism, both in the way he maintains his properties, and in personal conduct in public, may go a long way toward his cause.

On an unrelated note, when you're not picky about who you rent to, it's really a small wonder that you're having a hard time with unruly tenants. Seems that renting to people involves more than just collecting rent. It actually takes effort too.
landlord owes me

Chambersburg, PA

#74 May 27, 2010
ok how bought if one of these landlords owes me n doesnt want to pay wheres my money i took one of these landlords in this article to court for my deposit and won i have a judgement for me against them and they never paid so much for responsiblity,and if they read this i am pursuing further action until i am paid.not everyone is a deadbeat tenant obviously or i wouldnt have won......
Brian

Newville, PA

#75 May 27, 2010
Speaking purely from an accountant's perspective, what we're dealing with here is two completely different models. The "slumlord" model at one end of the spectrum, and the "Sunny Hill" model (for lack of a better term) at the other end of the spectrum. Again, from an accounting perspective, both are successful and profitable business models. At the slumlord end of the spectrum, we have low rents, but also very low maintenance and overhead costs. At the sunny hill end of the spectrum, we have higher rents, but also tremendous expense associated with maintenance and administrative activities. The net result from both models is essentially the same net profit. Both models serve a defined market of people who need their product.

It is at this point where the landlord must determine if there is any wisdom in choosing the business model at the lower end of the spectrum that also draws the ire of the community and our Mayor. That's not really a question, but more of something to ponder.
the system sucks

Jersey Shore, PA

#76 May 27, 2010
The point is that the Borough is protecting slumlords. Did they care that my landlord took my whole deposit and legally owed me? Did they make him fix the fire hazard that caused my high electric bill, and fix the floors that were literally rotting? That is also the Boroughs job. did they make him fix the broken windows or have him pay the doctor bill from the 2 inch long splinter from my childs foot? My landlords were certifiable crazies. They called me daily after I turned them in and left 10 minute voicemails threatening me. THe Borough never made changed anything anyway and I had more problems from the harrassment. Good job Borough "Save the landlords"
Brian

Newville, PA

#77 May 27, 2010
I should add... no business owner, regardless of their business model, should welcome a bill that was for services they did not themselves enjoy. It's essentially like being the co-signer on a car that got repo'd, and you never got the drive the car, but you're stuck paying the bill. In this case, the landlords are essentially co-signers on every one of their tenant's utility accounts, whether they like it or not. I really can't blame them for not seeing merit in the tenants ability to rack up a large bill and leaving it for the landlord to pay. Putting measures in place to keep the outstanding balance low seems like a no-brainer.
Brian

Newville, PA

#78 May 27, 2010
the system sucks wrote:
The point is that the Borough is protecting slumlords....
Well, more accurately, they are considering putting additional measures in place to protect all landlords, some of whom may fall into the category commonly known as a slumlord. While it's fair to acknowledge the existence of the so-called slumlord, it's also fair to say that most landlords do not fall into that category. In any business segment you'll ever examine, there are always people who do it better than others.
the system sucks

Jersey Shore, PA

#79 May 27, 2010
If the borough wanted to assist the landlord, they would hold the tenant accountable and put it on their credit report like all other agencies do for unpaid bills. They could write it off and collect a tax break instead of forcing the landlord to pay for it. The landlord should not be held accountable. Maybe the focus should be on the techniques that the Borough uses to get their money.They make sure that they get it no matter who they put out. Isnt anyone pissed that they make the landlord pay it at all?
Gotta wonder

Gettysburg, PA

#80 May 27, 2010
cant do it wrote:
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Interesting. The draft ended in 1973. Nonetheless, C'burg drafted you to be a Landlord or was it free choice, am confused? Get out of the rental business if you CANT SCREEN renters.
Or is that milk from the Govt., called Direct Deposit for Section 8 to sweet?
How is the golf swing doing on the links of Hagerstown,....just askin'
Hey dummy, I am not a landlord.
Jon

Greencastle, PA

#81 May 27, 2010
Yup Yup wrote:
Kevin Tharp wouldn't know the Constitution if he got hit up side the head with it.
It's funny that he is so vocal in all of this, when we all know that he and his section 8 rentals are part of the problem.
Mr. Tharp is a perfect example of the kind of landlord that doesn't care about anything but money. Even the other landlords in town will tell you that he's a slumlord, plain and simple.
I've seen some of his rentals and in my opinion they are disgusting. I certainly wouldn't live in one and I can't imagine any decent person would. And that, in a nutshell, is why he rents to who he rents to. They are the only kind of people willing to live in such a place. It's a disgrace and he deserves whatever punishment he gets.
Don't want regulation Kevin? CLEAN UP YOUR RENTALS!
I thought they had to pass Borough inspections?
NO2bleedingheart s

Newville, PA

#82 May 27, 2010
BGSU wrote:
Twenty-some years ago when I had a newborn and rented, our #1 priority was the roof over our head and utilities. We were on 2nd floor with a $2 yard sale box fan. We NEVER had any cash except on Friday nights. We'd go grocery shopping, take our little one to the Arcade and eat at the Pizza Hut. That was it. That was how it was. Our entertainment was taking long walks, working out in our makeshift workout room and going to the pool. Without a doubt, those were the happiest of my years. We obeyed the rules and kept things simple.

Later on we rented our first house from the Mayor of Mont Alto. He looked in our minivan when we opened the side door, saw it was immaculate and rented to us right away. When we gave notice, we went to Thompson Oil and had the tank filled as per the agreement. The guy in the office asked me if we were buying the house and I said "No." The homeowner put the house up for sale; he said he wouldn't rent the property any more because he'd never replace us. Five officers from the bank walked through and deemed the property 'move-in condition."
This isn't haughtiness on my behalf; this is how renters are supposed to behave.
I agree 100%. Unfortunately, it seems as though alot of people seem to think they are entitled to the luxuries in life, even if they don't earn it. But I believe that not everyone wins, not everyone gets a trophy. A person must live right, work hard for their money,live within their means and not expect everyone else to pick up their slack.
fake id

Landisburg, PA

#83 May 27, 2010
All this hipe sounds like a set up to me... It appears the attorneys are setting up a great way to prosecute discrimination lawsuits.
I'm sure homeowners would not want to lease their properties to scumbags that destoy the place; however, with all the discrimination folks including the ACLU yelling, they have to rent to anyone that wants to live there. Now with the new ordience they are told to do their own screening procedures or they will be fined. The landlord would be now open to a lawsuit if they say you look creepy, dirty, have a past bad behavior. Metzger Wickersham would be called and the landlord would lose the lawsuit since they now discrimintated against the low life scum bottom feeder.
leanto

Chambersburg, PA

#84 May 27, 2010
just asking wrote:
I know someone who moved out of her apt. and did not pay her last boro bill. She went to live with a friend. A year later when she got a place of her own she had to pay that last bill before she could get the lights turned on in her new place. So if the landlord has to pay the bill are you telling me the boro gets paid twice for one bill?
No the boro DOES NOT get paid twice for one bill! The payment made by the landlord is refunded. Check with the boro -- this rarely happens.
Aaron

Chambersburg, PA

#85 Feb 6, 2011
I just hope all of you watch "Zeitgeist Moving Forward" because we live in a system of Corruption and Greed. People only care about one thing "Material Accumulation" and nothing else, not even the well being of human beings or the environment.

We depend on Energy every day to keep us warm, keep our communications in tact, keep our internet running, keep our food cold and stove running.

This kind of shit from the borough is unacceptable in our community.

We need drastic change and people need to wake up to our own mindless, greedy, corrupt life styles.

Life doesn't have to be this so damn hard, we just make it this way because the LACK IN EMPATHY ON OUR WORLD.

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Carroll

Greencastle, PA

#86 Feb 6, 2011
There is no free lunch. Pay the bill or get cut off. Simple. No free lunch. There are abusers who take advantage. The borough cannot let the amount due get too large or the tenant will leave in the "dark of night" leaving the borough holding the bag.

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