Agents Bust 21 in Stanislaus County Meth Trafficking Investigation

[XTRA]

CASE_CORE wrote:

They forgot to mention that many of these criminals were also illegal immigrants. So much for the "they come here to work" attitude I hear so much. These people are criminals and need to be stopped. Are people finally going to step out of their fantasy world and see we have a real problem with these illegals in this valley.

WOW --- ITS ALL THE IMMIGRANTS FAULT REALLY? BECUASE OF MY YEARS OF DOING METH I BOUGHT IT FROM WHITE TRAILER TRASH??? YOU CAN'T JUST BLAME A RACE...

[Wondering]

The *ONLY REAL SOLUTION* to the problem is to enforce the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 *AND* close the loophole for ‘subcontractors’.

Slave labor and third world conditions should *NOT* be allowed in the United States of America.

[Geez]

XTRA wrote:

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WOW --- ITS ALL THE IMMIGRANTS FAULT REALLY? BECUASE OF MY YEARS OF DOING METH I BOUGHT IT FROM WHITE TRAILER TRASH??? YOU CAN'T JUST BLAME A RACE...

Back up the wagons for a second. I think you're confusing "immigrants" with "illegal immigrants". There is a big difference. It's safe to say that some people are coming to this country because they want a better life for themselves and their families. Unfortunately, so do the criminals. Statistics show that illegal immigrants are responsible for a large percentage of crime in this country. This is what I found out when I researched it.
I found this on Prisonplanet.com under articles.

Fortunately, a number of congressmen requested that the General Accountability Office (GAO) investigate and report information on criminal aliens incarcerated in federal and state prisons and local jails. The resulting GAO report, published in April 2005, revealed that illegal aliens make up 27% of the prison population.(The oft-cited figure of 12 million illegal aliens in the country means that they make up just 4% of the general population.)

Since illegal aliens are unlikely to be committing white-collar crimes, that figure likely underestimates the amount of violent crime committed by illegal aliens. Using the GAO report, Representative Steve King of Iowa points out that 25 Americans, on average, are killed by illegal aliens every day (about evenly split between motor vehicle accidents and outright murder).

Do the math: That works out to more than 9,000 deaths per year, or more than 36,000 deaths over the past four years. That's more than ten times the number of Americans killed in Iraq over the past four years!

I don't know how accurate those statistics are but if they're anywhere near accurate, that's really disturbing. The American people have good reason to be upset.

[NiftyWitch]

It makes no sense to me to turn this into an issue over race or immigration. In all the years I've worked in public service, the majority of the tweakers I had to deal with were just as white as me. Not to say there aren't any Hispanics involved in the meth industry, but I doubt they are even close to the majority.

[Wondering]

NiftyWitch wrote:

It makes no sense to me to turn this into an issue over race or immigration. In all the years I've worked in public service, the majority of the tweakers I had to deal with were just as white as me. Not to say there aren't any Hispanics involved in the meth industry, but I doubt they are even close to the majority.

Which planet ... or more acurately ... which part of Sacramento are you from?

[NiftyWitch]

I've lived in Northern California my entire life, and the majority of my working life has involved working with drug addicts and alcoholics. Guess you could call that "Planet Learning-This-Stuff-For-A-Livi ng".

[Wondering]

NiftyWitch wrote:

I've lived in Northern California my entire life, and the majority of my working life has involved working with drug addicts and alcoholics. Guess you could call that "Planet Learning-This-Stuff-For-A-Livi ng".

I’m willing to bet you don’t currently / have never lived in a barrio; NOR a working class neighborhood turned into a barrio by an influx of illegal immigrants. Your earned-learning, may not be as relevant as you’d like to believe.

[NiftyWitch]

"roll-eyes" Like barrios are the only place that have a drug problem? Believe it or not, there's a big, wide world that exists outside of the barrios. Try leaving the 'hood once in a while, and you might learn something "relevant" yourself.

If by "earned-learning" you mean paying for knowledge in a classroom, sorry but again you're way off. There's only so much that can be learned in books and classrooms. I'm talking about the learning that comes from almost 18 years working with White, Black, Hispanic, Asian, Eastern European, Middle Eastern, legals, illegals, alcoholics, drug abusers, child abusers, battered/batterers, physically and/or mentally disabled, etc etc etc....

But I guess that's not as "relevant" as hanging out in front of a liquor store in the barrio.'Scuse me while I LMAO.

[Wondering]

NiftyWitch wrote:

"roll-eyes" Like barrios are the only place that have a drug problem? Believe it or not, there's a big, wide world that exists outside of the barrios. Try leaving the 'hood once in a while, and you might learn something "relevant" yourself.
If by "earned-learning" you mean paying for knowledge in a classroom, sorry but again you're way off. There's only so much that can be learned in books and classrooms. I'm talking about the learning that comes from almost 18 years working with White, Black, Hispanic, Asian, Eastern European, Middle Eastern, legals, illegals, alcoholics, drug abusers, child abusers, battered/batterers, physically and/or mentally disabled, etc etc etc....
But I guess that's not as "relevant" as hanging out in front of a liquor store in the barrio.'Scuse me while I LMAO.

Oddly enough I couldn’t agree with you more.

Those destined to ‘hang-and-score’ in front of their local liquid death pit are doomed.

With a fate sealed further by the fact those types of establishments are *never* located in upscale gated communities or even in the (86% white)‘burbs’.

Where do between 12 and 20 million (20,000,000), by 2006 US Census Bureau estimates, illegal aliens live in this country?

I’m guessing very few of them have made it to (86% while)‘burbs’….yet….

I *know* they are invading working class neighborhoods; and living 20 to 30 people in houses designed for 5.

I *know* they bring all kinds of nasty / untreated / un-vaccinated diseases with them; and spread those like wildfire.

I *know* they work (as undocumented illegals) in the fields and in construction during the day; and park their unlicensed / unregistered vehicles in those working class neighborhoods; and fight and puke and piss in what used to be the backyard of what used to be some poor schmucks American Dream.

I *know* they bring violence and gangs. The gangs prey on them, because they *can’t* call the cops, and the people who rent them a mattress in their garage aren’t about to call the cops.

I *know* that people shouldn’t live like that.

Should they?

Should I?

Would you like to?
( I think *not*.)

[Wondering]

The *ONLY REAL SOLUTION* to the problem is to enforce the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 *AND* close the loophole for ‘subcontractors’.

Slave labor and third world conditions should *NOT* be allowed in the United States of America.

[NiftyWitch]

Okay, your first reply had nothing to do with what I said, and your second was just repeating your post from the 18th. Ramble much?

[REEFKEEPER]

Wondering wrote:

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Oddly enough I couldn’t agree with you more.
Those destined to ‘hang-and-score’ in front of their local liquid death pit are doomed.
With a fate sealed further by the fact those types of establishments are *never* located in upscale gated communities or even in the (86% white)‘burbs’.
Where do between 12 and 20 million (20,000,000), by 2006 US Census Bureau estimates, illegal aliens live in this country?
I’m guessing very few of them have made it to (86% while)‘burbs’….yet….
I *know* they are invading working class neighborhoods; and living 20 to 30 people in houses designed for 5.
I *know* they bring all kinds of nasty / untreated / un-vaccinated diseases with them; and spread those like wildfire.
I *know* they work (as undocumented illegals) in the fields and in construction during the day; and park their unlicensed / unregistered vehicles in those working class neighborhoods; and fight and puke and piss in what used to be the backyard of what used to be some poor schmucks American Dream.
I *know* they bring violence and gangs. The gangs prey on them, because they *can’t* call the cops, and the people who rent them a mattress in their garage aren’t about to call the cops.
I *know* that people shouldn’t live like that.
Should they?
Should I?
Would you like to?
( I think *not*.)

Well stated!

[Barb]

Tia Nina wrote:

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You're right CC!
A Mexican is a person whose nationality-country of origin, is Mexico. It's not a true "race" identity. The United States refused to even recognize our people as "persons" within the meaning of the law until 1879 (Standing Bear v. Cook-a federal habeas corpus case).
That doesn't mean there isn't some RACIST MF'S in this forum though!

Is saying white-trash racist???? Because I'm sure a lot of the buyers/users of meth are white-trash.

[Tia Nina]

Barb wrote:

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Is saying white-trash racist???? Because I'm sure a lot of the buyers/users of meth are white-trash.

My aunt who is "white" would say yes it is a racist slur. I think Meth addicts come in every shade. Believe me we have our share of buyers/users AND SELLERS.

[Wondering]

REEFKEEPER wrote:

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Well stated!

An eloquence born of (unfortunate) experience.

I don’t understand how people can ignore and thereby condone slavery.

The subjugation and exploitation of illegal aliens serves well no one but big business.

WalMart needs to sell cheaper grapes and peaches; supplied by ‘agri-business’ concerns that exploit illegal aliens via sub-contractors.

KB Homes needs to construct entire (86%) communities; built by sub-contractors exploit illegal aliens via sub-contractors.

The *ONLY REAL SOLUTION* to the problem is to enforce the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 *AND* close the loophole for ‘subcontractors’.

Slave labor and third world conditions should *NOT* be allowed in the United States of America.

[james chuckleworth]

arrgghhhh. imn going to eat your children

[LOL]

Wondering wrote:

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Where did the police get your son's picture?

haha...so much for the "does not engage in criminal activity" statement.

[Wondering]

james chuckleworth wrote:

arrgghhhh. imn going to eat your children

If you sub-contract the job and use illegals, you can have someone do it for you for a fraction of what it would normally cost.

Wait!!! Are you a 'labor contractor'?

[Obbop]

I have noticed that the invaders usually seem to be much more loyal to their home country and/or ethnic group than they are to the laws and our rights as citizens of the USA.

Well, look at how Mexico treats those illegally invading their country!!!!!

Imagine how the invaders of the USA would whine if we treated them the same way.

We, the people, are being invaded!!!

I advocate full-scale war against Mexico.

A fight to the finish. I am ready to take up arms against a horde of invading barbarians.

Did you read about the latest child raped by an illegal, up in Idaho? Ten years old and gave birth.

If only our leaders had guts and would stand up to the invaders. The USA has had more citizens maimed and killed by illegals than all foreign terrorists combined!!!!

Car wrecks, assaults, rape, murder...

And the invaders are so bold and brazen they spit back at the people and country they invade.

I cry out for a Congressional declaration of WAR against our enemy, and that enemy is HERE in the MILLIONS and their staging area is directly south of us.

[JasonB]

Obbop wrote:

Did you read about the latest child raped by an illegal, up in Idaho? Ten years old and gave birth.

Who's fault is it that she didn't have an abortion?