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Just Me
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BlueBlood wrote: Right... if the strap broke... then I'm sure there would be people who would ask, "Why wasn't it checked?"
Like I said... you can play the what if game all day long. Until the news comes out with a little more detail....we just don't know what happened.
What if a plane crashed in to the room the babies were sleeping in and the care taker survived? Would she be at fault for leaving the babies in the room alone?
Some of the lines of logic here aren't so straight.
The owner is still going to sued of course..... Blue..you seem a bit more involved with this story. I wonder if you have experienced something simular. I agree, Cindy will probably be sued. Hopefully her homeowners insurance will cover this. I quit doing childcare in my home out of fear. I was afraid a child would show up with an injury and the parent would claim it happened at my home. It was also implied that I would be sued when my cat scratched a child once. I was walking another child to the door and the child grabbed the cat. Bad things happen all the time. I feel for the parents and for Cindy.
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Gary
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Aunt Cindy was responsabl and the baby DIED!!!!Carma is going to get you!
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Enlighten Me
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Sandy James-Richards wrote: My grandmother lived next door to Cindy for many years and she is not a bad person. She may have made a terrible mistake by placing that child on the floor but that does make her out to be a monster.This is something that that will stay with her everyday and if she could do it differently I'm sure she would.My thoughts and prays go out to the parents of this child. I never said she was a monster, I said she was neglectful...and STUPID, I asked if she was smokin' crack-LOL!
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Joe
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very sad it hurts my heart. :(
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Daily Reader
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JEEBUS PEOPLE! Everyone wants to act like they know everything! To everyone who is pointing fingers at Cindy, who is to say what REALLY happened? At this point, no one, not even police investigators will speculate. Yes to the fact that the book case was not fully secured, but who is to say how (if it was) well that case was secured to the wall?
Like BlueBlood said, until we get the full facts from authorities, no one should point fingers! NO ONE!
And dont tell me you parents who are on this forum have NEVER let your child nap or even play on the floor. And dont make me get into the part about supervision, by far, daycare centers, nannies and all other baby sitters who are responsible, supervise children 10 times better than the biological parents! And yes, it IS a proven fact. This was an accident so far according to the police and Social Services. If they suspect foul play, they will arrest and charge Cindy AT THAT TIME. Until then, you people need to quit acting like you know better. I didn't want to reply until more facts came out, but the more posts I see on this thread, the more it erks me to see that there are people out there who are just too damn quick to judge.
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anonymous
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Give me a break wrote: Sure his ending was tragic but God was calling him home, there is nothing wrong with a child sleeping on the floor.
To the parents your child is being well taken care of he is in great hands.
To the day care owner, accidents happen, but when it's some one's time to go they are gonna go and we don't know how it will happen. Sure the bookcase could have been secured to the wall but it was his time to go, so if the bookcase didn't fall on him something else would have taken his life.
God Bless God was calling him home? What a load of crap.
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Kim
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Just wanting to get this straight. So when you put your child down for a nap...
1) Cannot place child on floor because something big might fall on them.
2) Never leave them unsupervised for even a second... so does this mean you must stare at them the entire 1-3 hours for the "just in case"?
I agree with one of the above comments, you physically cannot watch a child 24/7, that would be impossible! Also daycare providers do actually pay more attention and are more alert than most parents. Since this was a home daycare, she probably had a full house of 12 children. Can you watch 12 children all at the same time? I can't.... it's impossible! Everyone stop being so mean about everything in this world... it is just makes me very sad.
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JoAnn
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Seems to me that the baby may have pulled the bookshelf over. My heart goes out to all.
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mama
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Kim wrote: Just wanting to get this straight. So when you put your child down for a nap...
1) Cannot place child on floor because something big might fall on them.
2) Never leave them unsupervised for even a second... so does this mean you must stare at them the entire 1-3 hours for the "just in case"?
I agree with one of the above comments, you physically cannot watch a child 24/7, that would be impossible! Also daycare providers do actually pay more attention and are more alert than most parents. Since this was a home daycare, she probably had a full house of 12 children. Can you watch 12 children all at the same time? I can't.... it's impossible! Everyone stop being so mean about everything in this world... it is just makes me very sad. don't take 12 children if you can't take care of them!Every thing in the house should be extra secure , come on.
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Ladens aunt
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Sandy James-Richards wrote: My grandmother lived next door to Cindy for many years and she is not a bad person. She may have made a terrible mistake by placing that child on the floor but that does make her out to be a monster.This is something that that will stay with her everyday and if she could do it differently I'm sure she would.My thoughts and prays go out to the parents of this child. Yeah tell that to my sister. Maybe if the bookcase was bolted into the wall, or maybe if they checked on him. Instead of putting him down for a nap at 12 and not calling 911 until 3 o'clock so that mean my nephew was under that thing for 3 hours. Now what is her excuse for that? Now i belive it was accident, but if she was responable this would have never happened. And you can defend her until the cows come home, but it will never bring him back. AND IT IS ALL HER FAULT!!!!!!!!!! And too boot how darn her call my house want to talk to my parents they have nothing to say to her. Nothing she will say or do will bring him back. But the bottom line is he is gone forever and i will never get to see or hold him ever again. I would like to know why this happened? Why the bookcase wasn't bolted into the wall? Why there was no baby monitors? why he was sleeping on the floor with the door closed? And most importsnt why no one checked on him? If any one of these things where done he would still be alive. And don't ell me nothing like this ever happened before and she hasn't had any problems in 10 years. The fact is she isn't fit to watch kids if she can't be responsible enough to keep the kids safe in her care.
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Well
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Ladens aunt wrote: <quoted text>
Yeah tell that to my sister. Maybe if the bookcase was bolted into the wall, or maybe if they checked on him. Instead of putting him down for a nap at 12 and not calling 911 until 3 o'clock so that mean my nephew was under that thing for 3 hours. Now what is her excuse for that? Now i belive it was accident, but if she was responable this would have never happened. And you can defend her until the cows come home, but it will never bring him back. AND IT IS ALL HER FAULT!!!!!!!!!! And too boot how darn her call my house want to talk to my parents they have nothing to say to her. Nothing she will say or do will bring him back. But the bottom line is he is gone forever and i will never get to see or hold him ever again. I would like to know why this happened? Why the bookcase wasn't bolted into the wall? Why there was no baby monitors? why he was sleeping on the floor with the door closed? And most importsnt why no one checked on him? If any one of these things where done he would still be alive. And don't ell me nothing like this ever happened before and she hasn't had any problems in 10 years. The fact is she isn't fit to watch kids if she can't be responsible enough to keep the kids safe in her care. Who says no one checked on him? Just because he took at nap at 12 doesn't mean that the bookshelf fell immediately after she walked out of the room and he sat there trapped for 3 hours alone. That is making a pretty big assumption and things possibly more painful for yourself and your family. Baby could have been checked on and fine, then he could have woken up at some later and the bookshelf fell. Who knows?? If the paramedics felt there was hope for him to take him to the hospital and he passed away there then the bookshelf could have fallen on him right before three when he was checked on! Too many variables... too many assumptions, it was a terrible tragic accident, an accident. Obviously if she were unfit for childcare (ie other accidents, which would have already happened by now if she were routinely careless) then your nephew probably wouldn't have been in her care. But obviously she was fine until this horrible accident.
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Ladens aunt
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ok people want to make it about cindi when it really isn't. They want to say this is something she will live with for the rest of her life. What about us? she isn't the one who has to say goodbye to thier child then put them in the ground with a head stone,pictures as a reminder of how he use to be. You can tell me how it will affect her life, but you aren't asking me how she has ruined mine? or how about my parents what this has done to theirs, Or my sister his mother how is she going to cope with her son being gone. And as a mother and a preschool teacher i keep asking myself how did this happen.Who in thier right mind would a child unattended at nap time or anytime for that matter? For those of you who have read the story and are making excuse her her i have no use for you. The news pappers only tell so much until you live it don't judge. Yes i agree people shouldn't judge they don't know the whole story, but i know what happened and no matter what anyone even cindi herslef will not change the fact that she is responsible for what happened. To you other daycare providers or others defending her. do you leave your babbies in a room all by themsleves on the floor where they can get into stuff they are not supoose to? I know i wouldn't leae my child where she could get hurt.
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Ladens aunt
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Well wrote: <quoted text>
Who says no one checked on him? Just because he took at nap at 12 doesn't mean that the bookshelf fell immediately after she walked out of the room and he sat there trapped for 3 hours alone. That is making a pretty big assumption and things possibly more painful for yourself and your family. Baby could have been checked on and fine, then he could have woken up at some later and the bookshelf fell. Who knows?? If the paramedics felt there was hope for him to take him to the hospital and he passed away there then the bookshelf could have fallen on him right before three when he was checked on! Too many variables... too many assumptions, it was a terrible tragic accident, an accident. Obviously if she were unfit for childcare (ie other accidents, which would have already happened by now if she were routinely careless) then your nephew probably wouldn't have been in her care. But obviously she was fine until this horrible accident. Well i am sure i know alot more then you do since it is mine family it happened to but thanks anyway for you oppion
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Ladens aunt
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Well wrote: <quoted text>
Who says no one checked on him? Just because he took at nap at 12 doesn't mean that the bookshelf fell immediately after she walked out of the room and he sat there trapped for 3 hours alone. That is making a pretty big assumption and things possibly more painful for yourself and your family. Baby could have been checked on and fine, then he could have woken up at some later and the bookshelf fell. Who knows?? If the paramedics felt there was hope for him to take him to the hospital and he passed away there then the bookshelf could have fallen on him right before three when he was checked on! Too many variables... too many assumptions, it was a terrible tragic accident, an accident. Obviously if she were unfit for childcare (ie other accidents, which would have already happened by now if she were routinely careless) then your nephew probably wouldn't have been in her care. But obviously she was fine until this horrible accident. Yeah no were reported but god only know that nothing else ha happened there. But the fact is she messed up really bad not know my nephew is dead thanks to her
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JustMe
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Ladens aunt wrote: <quoted text>
Well i am sure i know alot more then you do since it is mine family it happened to but thanks anyway for you oppion Funny how you are not with your family in this time of need, instead you find it more important to be posting things on this site. You probably arent even from family of the unfourtunate baby. Just a sick person trying to get attention. Just Sick.
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Daily Reader
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JustMe wrote: <quoted text>
Funny how you are not with your family in this time of need, instead you find it more important to be posting things on this site. You probably arent even from family of the unfourtunate baby. Just a sick person trying to get attention. Just Sick. It is true that a person should be with the family instead of arguing with many people, but who is to say if she really is the aunt? I do side with you in the fact that she should be with family and not here pointing fingers and making the worlds dumbest assumptions. And NO, no one is showing pitty for anyone until the facts come back from the INVESTIGATORS! If you are the aunt, shame on you for putting yourself out there in this manner, if your not, like they say, karma is a b*tch.
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Lisa
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Everything is wrong with putting a baby on the floor to nap, unless you are sitting there every second and not take your eyes off of the child. Unfortunaly, that is never the case, there are so many things that can go wrong, the child can wake up and put something in his mouth and choke or get into something without the provider watching or crawl out of the room. THIS WAS NOT THE TIME FOR THE CHILD TO GO!! IT WAS THE LACK OF RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PROVIDER. I am not saying that this provider intended to harm the child, but I am saying she is a very irresponsible person, Thank God that no other parents had to suffer in the last 10 years, it was luck that nothing bad happened. This provider used very poor judgment and if she should continue in this business, I hope she learned a very hard lesson and that she thinks twice about how to handle and care for children.
GOD BLESS THE FAMILY THAT IS SUFFERING, MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU. YOUR LITTLE ANGEL IS IN A HAPPY BEAUTIFUL PLACE.....
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Ladens aunt
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JustMe wrote: <quoted text>
Funny how you are not with your family in this time of need, instead you find it more important to be posting things on this site. You probably arent even from family of the unfourtunate baby. Just a sick person trying to get attention. Just Sick. Acutally i am her sister, i do live in another state, and did just have a baby 2 weeks ago otherwise i would be there right now. but i do talk to my family everyday. So thanks for you input, but mind please keep your oppions to yourself. No i totally agree people are sick who crave atettion so much they lie. but that is not my not yes that is honestly my family and my nephew who are going through thid horriable thing that happened
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Just a mom
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Hearing this story reminds me off all the freak accidents that can occur anywhere. Also worries me a bit to think that when I am at work my childs life is in the hands of a paid and trusted friend. Even though my sister is the caregiver of my children I still cant help but worry for my children when I am not around. My sympothy goes out to the care provider and the family of the infant. The loss of a child is something noone should experience.
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Just a mom
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Reguardless of what family members may or may not comment on the site it is still wrong to place blame. The family is greaving the care provider is greaving. What is done is done and what needs to happen is healing for all parties involved. And the location under my name says kingsberg CA but I am Hilmar CA. Not to far from ceres at all.
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