OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#35591 Mar 3, 2013
Gloria wrote:
Then how do we deal with the more unfortunate?
Do we just leave them to starve?
Some people are just not able to work and/or take care of themselves.
Do we do as Hitler did, Not fit to work or take care of thyself, than the gas chambers?
If people for any reason because of health cannot work yes they should be getting help. Most people get it thru Medicaid which they will be getting healthcare. But people that can work and don't try then they should not be getting the same kind of government help. For those government assistance does not mean a forever thing. It is in place to help you get back on your feet and take care of yourself. But the ones that are unable to work because of health reasons then there should be no time limit to how long they get government help.
UnRepug

Red Oak, TX

#35592 Mar 3, 2013
Republicans are the minority in the good old USA.

It is very fortunate that they come into power only occasionally. It usually takes 12 to 16 years to undo their stupidity.

After keating and the state ho fallin, it will take 50 years for Oklahoma to see any progress.
Bluebird

United States

#35593 Mar 3, 2013
I would suggest that all the stupid remarks made by multiple different names is one or two posters max and one of them is justaminute.
JAG

United States

#35594 Mar 3, 2013
UnRepug wrote:
Republicans are the minority in the good old USA.
It is very fortunate that they come into power only occasionally. It usually takes 12 to 16 years to undo their stupidity.
After keating and the state ho fallin, it will take 50 years for Oklahoma to see any progress.
Yah for you and now with the rest of the story. The dems have over played their hand and businesses are looking to relocate. The latest one is Magpul from Colorado because the rabid dems who now control that state are putting in gun controls that will put that business out of business. If it passes then Magpul is leaving and along with the move goes the jobs. Democrats say Magpul is bluffing it will cost them to much to move. I would believe the tax breaks some states would give them to move into their state would off set whatever the move would cost nicely!

Let me invite you to Oklahoma and please call our Gov.Fallin to discuss what incentives Oklahoma can provide for you....
Donnie

United States

#35595 Mar 3, 2013
UnRepug wrote:
Republicans are the minority in the good old USA.
It is very fortunate that they come into power only occasionally. It usually takes 12 to 16 years to undo their stupidity.
After keating and the state ho fallin, it will take 50 years for Oklahoma to see any progress.
What was that black lady's name who admitted to voting 6 times in Ohio during the last presidential election?
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#35596 Mar 3, 2013
Who on here besides Pappy thinks you are not required to buy health ins, under the Obamacare plan. I know at least 5 poster thinks they will not be required to buy Health ins. under Obamacare.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#35597 Mar 3, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
I guess treatment for the heart in an elderly patient depends on what it is. Quadruple bypasses or heart transplants in your 80's or 90's doesn't happen now.
Living with millions uninsured that are under the age of Medicare doesn't seem to bother those fussing about Obamacare.
So crying about the elderly while ignoring the rest of the population is not going to be a winning argument anymore.
The Sequester is going to hurt everyone. Furloughing federal employees will result in furloughing medicare and social security employees as well as put a strain on the implementation of Obamacare. Everybody will feel the pain.


No it is not hurting everyone! Those of us with money are the ones it is helping! I have been able to buy a lot of stuff from those that are in desperate need of money to make ends meet for ten to twenty cents on the dollar and then sell if for a decent tax free profit.

It is with great hope that we see strains of all kinds implementing Obamacare and with any luck in will collapse under its own weight. Doctors say that a key government provision in the Affordable Care Act, the huge expansion of Medicaid enrollees, is likely to backfire, as almost half (49%) say they will stop accepting Medicaid payments.

Medicare draws even more complaints. Three-quarters (74%) say they will stop accepting new Medicare patients or leave it completely. Another 27% say they will start restricting services to their current Medicare patients.

Doctors clearly understand what Washington does not, that a piece of paper that says you are “covered” by insurance, or “enrolled” in Medicare or Medicaid does not translate to actual medical care when doctors won’t see patients at the lowball payments and patients have to jump through bureaucratic hoops to find a doctor that will see them if they can.

27% Pay Cut Or Not, More Docs To Leave Medicare In 2013. And even if Congress does head off the cut temporarily as it has in the past, doctors are increasingly leaving the Medicare program given its unpredictable funding. So the bottom line is, if you get Obama to send you a policy of coverage does not mean a doctor will see you therefore you may have to go to the emergency room anyway or do like some of us and pay cash.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapsen/2013/...
Donnie

United States

#35598 Mar 3, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
Who on here besides Pappy thinks you are not required to buy health ins, under the Obamacare plan. I know at least 5 poster thinks they will not be required to buy Health ins. under Obamacare.
Maybe their right because they don't work ;) But if they have a job then they are in for a rude awakening!
Donnie

United States

#35599 Mar 3, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
<quoted text>
No it is not hurting everyone! Those of us with money are the ones it is helping! I have been able to buy a lot of stuff from those that are in desperate need of money to make ends meet for ten to twenty cents on the dollar and then sell if for a decent tax free profit.
It is with great hope that we see strains of all kinds implementing Obamacare and with any luck in will collapse under its own weight. Doctors say that a key government provision in the Affordable Care Act, the huge expansion of Medicaid enrollees, is likely to backfire, as almost half (49%) say they will stop accepting Medicaid payments.
Medicare draws even more complaints. Three-quarters (74%) say they will stop accepting new Medicare patients or leave it completely. Another 27% say they will start restricting services to their current Medicare patients.
Doctors clearly understand what Washington does not, that a piece of paper that says you are “covered” by insurance, or “enrolled” in Medicare or Medicaid does not translate to actual medical care when doctors won’t see patients at the lowball payments and patients have to jump through bureaucratic hoops to find a doctor that will see them if they can.
27% Pay Cut Or Not, More Docs To Leave Medicare In 2013. And even if Congress does head off the cut temporarily as it has in the past, doctors are increasingly leaving the Medicare program given its unpredictable funding. So the bottom line is, if you get Obama to send you a policy of coverage does not mean a doctor will see you therefore you may have to go to the emergency room anyway or do like some of us and pay cash.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapsen/2013/...
Bought a three old tractor and all the almost new attachments for a fraction of what it cost the original owner because he can't find a replacement job for the one he lost and he's out of options gotta feed his family and try to keep up with mortgage payments.
Donnie

United States

#35600 Mar 3, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
<quoted text>
No it is not hurting everyone! Those of us with money are the ones it is helping! I have been able to buy a lot of stuff from those that are in desperate need of money to make ends meet for ten to twenty cents on the dollar and then sell if for a decent tax free profit.
It is with great hope that we see strains of all kinds implementing Obamacare and with any luck in will collapse under its own weight. Doctors say that a key government provision in the Affordable Care Act, the huge expansion of Medicaid enrollees, is likely to backfire, as almost half (49%) say they will stop accepting Medicaid payments.
Medicare draws even more complaints. Three-quarters (74%) say they will stop accepting new Medicare patients or leave it completely. Another 27% say they will start restricting services to their current Medicare patients.
Doctors clearly understand what Washington does not, that a piece of paper that says you are “covered” by insurance, or “enrolled” in Medicare or Medicaid does not translate to actual medical care when doctors won’t see patients at the lowball payments and patients have to jump through bureaucratic hoops to find a doctor that will see them if they can.
27% Pay Cut Or Not, More Docs To Leave Medicare In 2013. And even if Congress does head off the cut temporarily as it has in the past, doctors are increasingly leaving the Medicare program given its unpredictable funding. So the bottom line is, if you get Obama to send you a policy of coverage does not mean a doctor will see you therefore you may have to go to the emergency room anyway or do like some of us and pay cash.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapsen/2013/...
It's all part of the agenda of Obama's socialist regime to have a one payer system. It doesn't work for the people but you can't teach a libertard jack.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#35601 Mar 3, 2013
Donnie wrote:
<quoted text>
It's all part of the agenda of Obama's socialist regime to have a one payer system. It doesn't work for the people but you can't teach a libertard jack.


Even a single-payer system will not work any better if doctors switch to a cash only practice and leave it to the patient to file for the partial re-imbursement under the new law. That way the doctor gets his price it takes to make a profit and will leave it to the patient to eat the loss. Like they say, there is always more than one way to skin the welfare cat.

As for the buying of goods from those going broke, I am finding a lot of good deals now. Craigslist has been a good source to turn that stuff into a healthy cash profit. Did I mention it is completely tax free profit. All sales are for cash only and it has been great both in buying and selling.

And you are correct, anyone that files a tax return will be required to buy health insurance under current law.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#35602 Mar 3, 2013
Hey Libtards, try this new concept. Great Idea with real change you can believe in!

Oklahoma's Republican Legislators this session are seeking changes in federal assistance programs that are popular among no-income and greedy Liberals in Oklahoman.

The Legislature last year passed a measure subjecting welfare recipients to drug tests, and so far this year close to a dozen measures have been introduced targeting assistance programs that Liberals abuse.

Some of the bills create new requirements for those Liberals who receive assistance. They include making liberal recipients that voted for Obama work more hours, or prohibit certain liberal people, such as those convicted of drug crimes or with $5,000 or more in assets, from receiving benefits.

House Speaker T. W. Shannon has a bill that would require able-bodied Liberals, childless liberal adults under 50 to spend a minimum of 35 hours per week engaged in "work activities" before receiving food stamps. He says he wants to encourage Liberals to exercise "personal responsibility." So does the Conservative Taxpayer!
In other words,“don’t work, don’t eat”! That’s change you can believe in.

http://www.okhouse.gov/District.aspx...
Homer

United States

#35603 Mar 3, 2013
Dumbazz retarted repigs. Sad.
Donnie

United States

#35604 Mar 3, 2013
Homer wrote:
Dumbazz retarted repigs. Sad.
What's sad is your free cell phone needs to be charged so run along and plug it in before your favorite Simpson's episode comes on.
Homer

United States

#35605 Mar 3, 2013
Prayer--the last resort of a gun nut scoundrel.

Lisa Simpsion
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#35606 Mar 3, 2013
Unveiled: Democrats’ Racist Past
By Frances Rice ( Frances Rice is a lawyer, retired Army Lieutenant Colonel and Chairman of the National Black Republican Association)

Democrats who say they don’t care about civil rights history do so because they want to hide the Democratic Party’s racist past. Hypocritically, these same Democrats are quick to falsely accuse Republicans of being racist, while pontificating about why black Americans vote overwhelmingly for the Democratic Party, a party whose failed socialist policies have turned black communities into economic and social wastelands.

Surveys show that black Americans think conservative, but vote liberal because they have been barraged for over 40 years with falsehoods about the Republican Party by the Democrats who have hijacked the civil rights record of the Republican Party and taken blacks down the path of Socialism.

The time is long overdue for the curtain of deceit to be lifted and the ugly truth told about the Democratic Party’s horrendous history of racism and anti-black socialist policies that have caused so much harm to black Americans.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#35607 Mar 3, 2013
The Democratic Party’s Failed Socialism

The deplorable condition in black neighborhoods that have been run by Democrats for the past 40 years is well documented by black Democrat Juan Williams in his book entitled Enough: The Phony Leaders, Dead-End Movements, and Culture of Failure That Are Undermining Black America. Democrats have the audacity to blame Republicans for the crisis in black neighborhoods created by the Democrats and the temerity to claim that it is Republicans who have done nothing for blacks.

In fact, Republicans have done a great deal to help black Americans, including appointing more blacks to high-level positions than at any time in our nation’s history. Record money has been spent on education, job training and health care, as well as assistance with becoming home and small business owners. Since the 1960’s, over $7 trillion has been spent on poverty programs. The Washington Post reported that as of 2006, the federal government had in place over 80 poverty-related programs costing $500 billion annually.

In Florida, when Governor Charlie Crist was a Republican, he had been a leader in the civil rights movement. He achieved passage of the Dr. Marvin Davies Florida Civil Rights Act to stop discrimination. He accomplished the restoration of civil rights for ex-offenders. He also signed a budget that provides $24.4 billion for education that prepares graduates for the high-tech, high-wage jobs of the future.

Money is not the issue. The socialist policies of the Democratic Party are at the root of the pathos in black communities. To their eternal shame, Democrats fight every effort of Republicans to help blacks get out of poverty. Democrats oppose school choice opportunity scholarships that would help black parents get their children out of failing schools. Democrats oppose the faith-based initiative that would help black ministers provide social services to the poor. Democrats oppose reform of Social Security even though blacks on average lose $10,000 in the system because blacks on average have a five-year shorter life expectancy.

Despite these policies that run counter to the best interest of black people, black Americans keep voting for Democrats because every election cycle Democrats preach hatred against Republicans and get blacks to cast a protest vote against Republicans and not a vote for Democrats. Deliberately, Democrats keep black poor, angry and voting for Democrats. Any black person who becomes self-reliant and prosperous is denigrated as a “sellout.” With this reprehensible strategy, Democrats have built their power base on the backs of poor blacks. Democrat Demagogues get away with this tactic because Democrats have hidden their racist past and sold Socialism to blacks, a system that sounds good but has proven to be devastating to black communities.

Knowledge is power. In addition to exposing the failed Socialism of the Democrats, a key step to helping to free blacks from the Democratic Party’s economic plantation is to shed the light of truth on the racist past of the Democratic Party.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#35608 Mar 3, 2013
The Democratic Party’s Racist Past

As author Michael Scheurer succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is the party of the four S's: Slavery, Secession, Segregation and now Socialism.

Facts about racism in the Democratic Party can be found in books such as A Short History of Reconstruction by Dr. Eric Foner and Wrong on Race: The Democratic Party's Buried Past by Bruce Bartlett. Two other books are Unfounded Loyalty and Unveiling the Whole Truth by Rev. Wayne Perryman. Rev. Perryman wrote his books after conducting five years of research. He then sued the Democratic Party for that party’s 200-year history of racism. Under oath in court, the Democrats admitted their racist past, but refused to apologize because they know that they can take the black vote for granted.

History shows that Democrats fought to expand slavery while Republicans fought to end it. From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. Republicans fought to free blacks from slavery and amended the Constitution to grant blacks freedom (13th Amendment), citizenship (14th Amendment) and the right to vote (15th Amendment). Republicans also passed the civil rights laws of the 1860's, including the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the Reconstruction Act of 1867 that was designed to establish a new government system in the Democrat-controlled South, one that was fair to blacks.

It was Democrats who started the Ku Klux Klan that became the terrorist arm of the Democratic Party to lynch and terrorize Republicans-black and white. Democrats passed those discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws and fought every piece of civil rights legislation from the 1860’s to the 1960’s. Shamefully, Democrats fought against anti-lynching laws, and when the Democrats regained control of Congress in 1892, they passed the Repeal Act of 1894 that overturned civil right laws enacted by Republicans. Republicans founded the HCBU’s and started the NAACP to counter the racist practices of the Democrats. It took Republicans six decades to finally enact civil rights laws in the 1950’s and 1960’s, over the objection of Democrats.

It defies logic for Democrats today to claim that the racist Democrats suddenly joined the Republican Party after Republicans, including Republican Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. finally won the civil rights battle against the racist Democrats. In fact, the racist Democrats declared that they would rather vote for a “yellow dog” than vote for a Republican, because the Republican Party was known as the party for blacks.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#35609 Mar 3, 2013
The Modern Civil Rights Era

Undeniably, during the civil rights era of the 1960's, it was the Democrats who Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the other protestors were fighting. Democrat Public Safety Commissioner Eugene "Bull" Connor in Birmingham let loose vicious dogs and turned skin-burning fire hoses on black civil rights demonstrators. Democrat Georgia Governor Lester Maddox famously brandished ax handles to prevent blacks from patronizing his restaurant. Democrat Alabama Governor George Wallace stood in front of the Alabama schoolhouse in 1963 and thundered, "Segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever." In 1954, Democrat Arkansas Governor Orville Faubus tried to prevent desegregation of a Little Rock public school.

Historical records show that it was Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who established the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, enforced the desegregation of the military, sent troops to Arkansas to desegregate the schools, and appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court which resulted in the 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision ending school segregation. Eisenhower also supported the civil rights laws of 1957 and 1960.

Little known by many today is the fact that it was Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois, not Democrat President Lyndon Johnson, who pushed through the civil rights laws of the 1960’s. In fact, Dirksen was key to the passage of civil rights legislation in 1957, 1960, 1964, 1965 and 1968. Dirksen wrote the language for the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Dirksen also crafted the language for the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which prohibited discrimination in housing.

Omitted from discussions today are significant facts about the struggle to pass the landmark 1964 Civil Rights Act. The law guaranteed equal access to public facilities and banned racial discrimination by any entity receiving federal government financing. The law was an update of Republican Charles Sumner's 1875 Civil Rights Act which had been stuck down by the Democrat-controlled US Supreme Court in 1883.

The chief opponents of the 1964 Civil Rights Act were Democrat Senators Sam Ervin, Albert Gore, Sr. and Robert Byrd. Senator Byrd, a former member of the Ku Klux Klan, filibustered against the bill for 14 straight hours before the final vote. Former presidential candidate Richard Nixon lobbied hard for the passage of the bill. When the bill finally came up for a vote, the House of Representatives passed the bill by 289 to 124. 80% of Republicans in the House of Representatives voted yes, and only 63% of Democrats voted yes. The Senate vote was 73 to 27, with 21 Democrats in the Senate voting no, and only 6 Republicans voting no.

Equally important was the 1965 Voting Rights Act that authorized the federal government to abolish literacy tests and other means used to prevent blacks from exercising their constitutional right to vote that was granted by the 15th Amendment to the Constitution. With images of violence against civil rights protestors led by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. shaping the national debate, Democrats in Congress finally decided not to filibuster the Voting Rights Act of 1965. When the bill came up for a vote, both houses of Congress passed the bill. In the House of Representatives, 85% of Republicans and 80% of Democrats voted for the bill. In the Senate, 17 Democrats voted no, and only one Republican voted no.

For the rest of the article please go here:
http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index...
Sam

United States

#35610 Mar 3, 2013
Obama Will Classify Christians As Mentally Ill And Hoard Them Into Asylums

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