Fire the teachers? When schools fail, it may work

Full story: Brattleboro Reformer

When all the teachers were fired from Central Falls High School last week in a sweeping effort at school reform, their superintendent gave them a taste of the accountability President Barack Obama says is necessary.

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beaglesarecute

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Mar 15, 2010
 
My son went through BUHS and we found that if you were in the top 10% of the class you got a lot of extras and in the bottom 30% of the class you got special attention. But the kids in the middle get ignored by the system. My son had the same guidance counselor for 4 years. When he asked her to write a letter for him for college, she had to make an appointment with him, because she didn't know him well enough to just write a letter. We are parents who went to every open house, went to every parent teacher conference and made appointments with the teachers if we saw falling grades. Our son played sports and we were there for all his games, traveling to see them. So we weren't invisible parents. He did have some very good teachers and some very bad ones. But as we discovered, unless parents keep on top of what's happening at school, no one will tell you. Not your child's teachers, not the principal, not the guidance counselors.
estanson

Jericho, VT

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Mar 15, 2010
 
its a question of who is ultimately responsible...
I have a problem with any parent who thinks its a school or ANYONE else who is ultimatley responsible for their children.

It used to be that if you got in trouble in school, your PARENTS whooped you at home...whether a beating or extra chores...
now when a child gets in trouble, the parent come in a defend the child, blame the school, ensure no punishment and then bring the kid to McDonalds...

school discipline was simply notifying the parents...

how about getting back to basics,
school should not be mandatory...it should be a right...
society safety nets should only be given to those that take advantage of that right...

lets let them sink or swim...
Joe

Chester, VT

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Mar 15, 2010
 
estanson wrote:
its a question of who is ultimately responsible...
I have a problem with any parent who thinks its a school or ANYONE else who is ultimatley responsible for their children.
It used to be that if you got in trouble in school, your PARENTS whooped you at home...whether a beating or extra chores...
now when a child gets in trouble, the parent come in a defend the child, blame the school, ensure no punishment and then bring the kid to McDonalds...
school discipline was simply notifying the parents...
how about getting back to basics,
school should not be mandatory...it should be a right...
society safety nets should only be given to those that take advantage of that right...
lets let them sink or swim...
k thru 6 and after that kids have to EARN their way into 7th grade by having decent grades & behavior.
Every county or large school district could have a K thru 6th school for the uncivilized brats that disturb classes and than after 6th grade goodbye, the taxpayers are done and not going to waste money on them. It's no fair to the teachers or other students or the taxpayers to put up with the jerry springer specials. Lower the work age to 13 and let their parents and or law deal with them.
estanson

Jericho, VT

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Mar 15, 2010
 
Joe wrote:
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k thru 6 and after that kids have to EARN their way into 7th grade by having decent grades & behavior.
Every county or large school district could have a K thru 6th school for the uncivilized brats that disturb classes and than after 6th grade goodbye, the taxpayers are done and not going to waste money on them. It's no fair to the teachers or other students or the taxpayers to put up with the jerry springer specials. Lower the work age to 13 and let their parents and or law deal with them.
I agree...
first have the state sell weed in liquor outlets so that won't be a possible job for these kids...
a couple of weeks working real jobs will convince many to return to school and BEHAVE...maybe even look into that book on the desk...
estanson

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Mar 15, 2010
 
estanson wrote:
its a question of who is ultimately responsible...
I have a problem with any parent who thinks its a school or ANYONE else who is ultimatley responsible for their children.
It used to be that if you got in trouble in school, your PARENTS whooped you at home...whether a beating or extra chores...
now when a child gets in trouble, the parent come in a defend the child, blame the school, ensure no punishment and then bring the kid to McDonalds...
school discipline was simply notifying the parents...
how about getting back to basics,
school should not be mandatory...it should be a right...
society safety nets should only be given to those that take advantage of that right...
lets let them sink or swim...
sorry, eduation should not be a right..
I meant privilege...
an earned privilege...
XXX

Springfield, MA

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Mar 15, 2010
 
SadlyWellInformed wrote:
Obviously few of you have ever worked in education.
At the workplace, your children come to school without their homework, complete no classwork, dress like hoodlums, behave violently. A little something they learned at home?
Very often teachers are threatened, hit, punched, sworn at, stalked, etc. How often does that happen to you at work...every day? How long would you be ocmpelled to take it because they are juveniles? Yet they are the products of your homes and your values of your upbringing of your neighborhoods....
Every year teachers have ever changing classroom lists because you are always moving and not paying the rent. Sometimes a teacher can have one hundred new and lost students every year. They move, get arrested, get killed, are on the run, or are hiding in safe houses provided by the gang.
Perhaps it is society that needs serious reform and not the educational system or the teachers. They are in many cases the most educated, tenacious and dedicated group of professionals yet also the most maligned when the financial system crashes.
Who is starting the fights and selling the drugs in your neighborhoods? The teachers? Or your children?
Who is carrying the weapons and slashing each other? The teachers or your children?
And is Facebook your only defense? Pitiful.
Get a real job...become a teacher where you can be threatened by the students, their families and the public. It has certainly and sadly been an eye-opening experience.
I thought persecuting educators ended after WWII.
Unfortuantely it continues. Shame on you all.
Sounds like somebody is a bitter, burned out teacher, who really should not be teaching. If I ever heard a teacher with an attitude as defeated and burned out as yours, I would yank anyone I knew out of your class immediately, and lobby for your termination.

Unfortunately, hiring AND firing are foreign to self centered, bitter beaurocrats who hide in the class room until retirement. We need an accountability system for these public employees to get rid of the non-performers, such as yourself. Your words speak volumes about what is wrong with our broken education system.

Lastly, no one is "persecuting you" if you are being held accountable for your actions, and your bad attitude.

One can only hope that you are the exception, and not in the majority in your school.

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