All educators fired at underperformin...

All educators fired at underperforming RI school

There are 88 comments on the El Paso Times story from Feb 24, 2010, titled All educators fired at underperforming RI school. In it, El Paso Times reports that:

A Rhode Island school district has voted to fire all the teachers at an underperforming school.

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joanne

AOL

#63 Mar 1, 2010
opinionated one wrote:
Oh and by the way, we aren't paid for 12 months. We are only paid for the number of days we work. They divide it out over 12 months. As far as being "losers", well maybe we are since we decided to go into a profession with so little respect given for so much work.
I'll tell my boss I only want to work 180 days , get it divided over twelve months , retire with 87% of my salary and 55 yrs old. Then have the homeowner pay my pension, medical bills and wait on the beach for the next gang of my friends to retire early so we can all have fun on the taxpayer/homeowner expense.

Pa teachers search for any pay scale in Pa.
joanne

AOL

#64 Mar 1, 2010
You're psers and sers are so underfunded the whole town will be thrown into bankruptcy if this Tomfoolery isn't stopped.

The party starts at halloween in october and after all the in-service , snow days, Christmas , new Years, Easter, 11 other Holidays and just for the hell of it days, they start winding down in April . Come september,"I can't wait for June"

No wonder everyone want's to be a teacher. We just didn't know all the benefits until they started reaching for the sky and all their salaries were put online .$30.00 an hr and your union told you to go for $90.00 ? It worked in many places ,Central Falls isn't being picked on, you just happen to be the first one and won't be the last.
Rob

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#65 Mar 1, 2010
Concrened Parent wrote:
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Are you a soldier, policeman, fireman? Then shut up. The only reason we need policeman and soldiers is because the general public behaves like a bunch of animals. Why? Because they are not raised or trained properly. When does this training happen. Supposedly in childhood. Parents, are often too busy, disinterested, or absent and just don't do the job that society assumes they should. Who fills the gap? TEACHERS. These people are trained to educate they should not be teaching manners, dignity, self respect, or common sense. They often find themselves dealing with the consequences of these poorly trained and poorly raised children, probably children like you raised, judging strictly by your comments. You don't have children, GOOD.
FYI, I served for over 26 years in the military! I can tell you what I earned when I entered and when I retired! I can also tell you that I seldom heard a soldier complained because they were over worked and under paid or deployed and away from their love ones. So when I hear teachers snivel at the profession that they have chosen, it just cracks me up. They just donít have a clue!
Rob

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#66 Mar 1, 2010
SC Local wrote:
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Firemen underpaid? Maybe in Texas but in California they are hauling in six figure salaries and retire at 48 with full six figure salaries and health benefits only to go on to another PERS job and get a second pension. California Firemen are the most overpaid and underworked civil servants out there so please, do not include them in your "underpaid" comments.
I included the fireman because in the state of Texas they are under paid. I can't speak for California but based on what you are telling me, no wonder the state is financially broke!
joanne

AOL

#67 Mar 1, 2010
Rob wrote:
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I included the fireman because in the state of Texas they are under paid. I can't speak for California but based on what you are telling me, no wonder the state is financially broke!
Same in Pa. All public employees come under psers and sers. The rules are the same if you're a janitor, educator,legislator,police, fireman or prison employee. Check out Allentown Pa. police . Some are retiring in their 40's with more than their salary based on the last year they worked , crammed in all the overtime, with the help of all the other police and stupidity of council giving such a lucrative benefits program.

The state is broke and they're ready to bring the fleecing of pa citizens with adding table games to slot machines.
Gdude

Santa Cruz, CA

#68 Mar 1, 2010
So when do the teachers get to take back their school from Administrators and lousy parents?
Gdude

Santa Cruz, CA

#69 Mar 1, 2010
joanne wrote:
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Same in Pa. All public employees come under psers and sers. The rules are the same if you're a janitor, educator,legislator,police, fireman or prison employee. Check out Allentown Pa. police . Some are retiring in their 40's with more than their salary based on the last year they worked , crammed in all the overtime, with the help of all the other police and stupidity of council giving such a lucrative benefits program.
The state is broke and they're ready to bring the fleecing of pa citizens with adding table games to slot machines.
Maybe YOU should have become a Public Servent then, but, you decided the private sector is where the money is. You gamnled and lost, that is not the fault of any public servant.
joanne

AOL

#70 Mar 1, 2010
Gdude wrote:
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Maybe YOU should have become a Public Servent then, but, you decided the private sector is where the money is. You gamnled and lost, that is not the fault of any public servant.
You should know how being a public servant has California going broke paying for you and all the over bloated entitlements.
Better it breaks off in an earthquake and sinks into the pacific Ocean.
joanne

AOL

#71 Mar 1, 2010
Gdude wrote:
So when do the teachers get to take back their school from Administrators and lousy parents?
Ask Obama, he sent the director of public education to Central Falls with the intention to fire the greedy school. Not only the teachers, but everyone including the principal.

How has your Union really helped this.
Gdude

Santa Cruz, CA

#72 Mar 1, 2010
Joanne - keep using your AOL to post your nonsense and move back to Texas where you belong.
something has to change

Salinas, CA

#73 Mar 1, 2010
joanne wrote:
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You should know how being a public servant has California going broke paying for you and all the over bloated entitlements.
Better it breaks off in an earthquake and sinks into the pacific Ocean.
off topic and mean, many good people live in CA that you would like to see drop into the ocean...wow!
as to teachers, there are many good ones out there
BUT the ones that get "bad" reviews, have a high student fail rate in their classroom, should fear getting fired just like in any sector of work.
If a person has a poor performance ratio,that's just what happens
Any teacher usa

Scottsville, KY

#74 Mar 1, 2010
Dear Rob in El Paso,
I was not sniveling about my job. I am just staing the facts for you. Your previous post made it apparent that you did not have all the facts about teachers' working hours. As I said before, I love children and want to help them. Most teachers feel the same way. I had a "real job" as you put it for several years before deciding to return to school for a degree in education. If I did not love what I do, I would do something else. Someone with your great wisdom should not be mislead!!
la mosca

Albuquerque, NM

#75 Mar 1, 2010
Hey Michael Hays (Valedicktorian) and Bill Varuola (What else, Class Clown)

YOUR ALMA MATER MADE THE NEWS!!!!!!!!!

Congrats!!!
rrt6913

Latham, NY

#76 Mar 2, 2010
The teachers put their hand out for more money - if they put their hand out to lift the kids up this wouldn't have been an issue. They make GREAT money for FEW hours - it wouldn't have killed them to step up and be part of the solution - but they refused.
The teachers union philosophy of paying the best teacher at a school exactly the same as the worst has come home to roost. Hope these teachers see the light before it happens to them again at their next job.
fed up

Cumberland, RI

#77 Mar 2, 2010
rrt6913 wrote:
The teachers put their hand out for more money - if they put their hand out to lift the kids up this wouldn't have been an issue. They make GREAT money for FEW hours - it wouldn't have killed them to step up and be part of the solution - but they refused.
The teachers union philosophy of paying the best teacher at a school exactly the same as the worst has come home to roost. Hope these teachers see the light before it happens to them again at their next job.
I agree with you
skeeno

Salinas, CA

#78 Mar 2, 2010
Crazy Like Hell wrote:
Teachers here should be fired when students do not meet state requirements. These sometimes rude sarcastic and sometimes downright annoying teachers should wake up in the morning and look at themselves in the mirror and ask themselves is it me ! Collecting a pay check and thinking everything is all right does not cut it.
AND THE PARENTS? where does their responsibility lie. Administrators? where does their responsibility lie.
skeeno

Salinas, CA

#79 Mar 2, 2010
Sum Dim wrote:
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I don't care if you think I'm being rude. You're being an idiot if you think that something as fundamental as proper spelling is "off topic" in a discussion on education.
Are you people serious? Good thing they fired all those teachers. Sheeesh.
HEY MR. CORRECTO!!! Sheeesh. What is the root of that word??
Teacher

Eureka, MT

#80 Mar 2, 2010
Stating Rob a while back:
"I am sure that at one point in your life you felt as though you could make a difference in someoneís life however; reality slapped you in the face. Donít come back and tell us about teenagers and how you have to buy supplies, that you are over worked and under paid ect. Welcome to the real world! If you and your fellow teachers are non performers you all deserve to get the boot before you poison the rest of the students with your bad attitudes and higher than mighty mentality. For some reason teachers seem to think that they should be put in a pedestal and worshiped because of their titles."
I was going to let things slide off my back while reading all of these posts, but when I got to yours I simply could NOT hold myself back.
To start out with, I am a first year teacher, so you may just want to write me off since it seems like you are very good at stereotyping. I work my butt off, probably harder than most people I know who make my salary (I teach in MT, one of the lowest paid states). I work 10-11 hour days plus weekends. I put the work in because I like to be good at my job, just as I'm sure many other teachers do.
MASS firing of teachers is not the answer! I know there are quite a few teachers who are pretty near worthless in my building, but I am not! I work extremely hard, with very low achieving kids as well. My students are those who do not qualify for help in special ed, but are very, very low intellectually. They are the most disruptive, disrespectful kids in the school. If you were to only assess my ability on my students' test scores, I would be out in a heart beat. However, anyone who has been in my classroom knows that my kids are working harder than they have before and do have moments of greatness. I don't say this to toot my own horn, I'm just trying to make a point. Why should I be fired right along with the teacher who gets the middle-acheiving kids and then proceeds to have lax discipline and standards because the students can perform?!! SOME teachers need to be replaced, I agree, but please do not make the ignorant assumption that we all work just for the winter/spring/summer breaks and the so-called "shortened" work day. The real problem is tenureship. It is so hard to get underperforming teachers out of a school district, it is ridiculous. I am not a member of the union for precisely this reason. I want to have a job because I earned it, not because my contract states I can have it until further notice. There are too many sides to this coin to simply state that "firing all teachers will solve the problem."
Teaching is a very hard profession, and sorry, we are just as human as the rest of you! Don't judge too harshly until you've ran a class of 30 kids, 6 times a day, 5 days a week.
skeeno

Salinas, CA

#81 Mar 2, 2010
Concerned parent wrote:
When was the last time any of these three who left previous comments, have been in a public high school? Have you tried to educate teenagers who really do not care, with parents who could not care any less. Spend a day with a high school teacher in your neighborhood and see what they must deal with every single day. Then try to talk with the parents of the rude and disrespectful students and you will know why the children act like barbarians. Then sit in a meeting where some pencil pushing administrator is telling you that your performance is below the state standard because the students are not performing to a state dictated level. Get a clue BEFORE you post any more comments! Did I mention that most public school teachers have to buy supplies for their own classes because of budget cuts. They do so because they actually care about their students and don't want a lack of concern on the part of parents and administrators to jeopardize their "kids". Try working at that kind a job and then talk to us about deserving to be fired.
wonderful words. Ditto
jones

AOL

#82 Mar 3, 2010
rrt6913 wrote:
The teachers put their hand out for more money - if they put their hand out to lift the kids up this wouldn't have been an issue. They make GREAT money for FEW hours - it wouldn't have killed them to step up and be part of the solution - but they refused.
The teachers union philosophy of paying the best teacher at a school exactly the same as the worst has come home to roost. Hope these teachers see the light before it happens to them again at their next job.
They were offered $30.00 an hour for the extra time for tutoring after school, but some of the time spent with the children would have been gratus ? They refused the $30.00 an hr. and came back with an offer of $90.00 an hr. All this on a school district that has a median household income of $22,000. The rest of the story is history 2.

Next school district ?

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