All educators fired at underperforming RI school

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A Rhode Island school district has voted to fire all the teachers at an underperforming school. Full Story
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Obamaself

United States

#1 Feb 24, 2010
Maybe they should have been fired years before.....
Crazy Like Hell

El Paso, TX

#2 Feb 24, 2010
Teachers here should be fired when students do not meet state requirements. These sometimes rude sarcastic and sometimes downright annoying teachers should wake up in the morning and look at themselves in the mirror and ask themselves is it me ! Collecting a pay check and thinking everything is all right does not cut it.
Rob

El Paso, TX

#3 Feb 24, 2010
Crazy Like Hell wrote:
Teachers here should be fired when students do not meet state requirements. These sometimes rude sarcastic and sometimes downright annoying teachers should wake up in the morning and look at themselves in the mirror and ask themselves is it me ! Collecting a pay check and thinking everything is all right does not cut it.
Well said!
Concerned parent

East Providence, RI

#4 Feb 24, 2010
When was the last time any of these three who left previous comments, have been in a public high school? Have you tried to educate teenagers who really do not care, with parents who could not care any less. Spend a day with a high school teacher in your neighborhood and see what they must deal with every single day. Then try to talk with the parents of the rude and disrespectful students and you will know why the children act like barbarians. Then sit in a meeting where some pencil pushing administrator is telling you that your performance is below the state standard because the students are not performing to a state dictated level. Get a clue BEFORE you post any more comments! Did I mention that most public school teachers have to buy supplies for their own classes because of budget cuts. They do so because they actually care about their students and don't want a lack of concern on the part of parents and administrators to jeopardize their "kids". Try working at that kind a job and then talk to us about deserving to be fired.
Crazy like Hell failed

United States

#5 Feb 24, 2010
How do teachers fix :
1.children cannot be failed
2.more funding is spent on disfunctional kids 3.politicians tip toe around the issue of poor parenting.
4.Parenting is at an all time low, concerned more with reality shows, dieting, working out and generally behaving like teenagers.
5. parents babysit with game systems and the tv.
Teachers never had a chance. Working with kids really gives you a picture of what home life is like. This is very scary, we are in for a bleek future.
Sum Dim

Palmdale, CA

#6 Feb 24, 2010
Crazy like Hell failed wrote:
How do teachers fix :
1.children cannot be failed
2.more funding is spent on disfunctional kids 3.politicians tip toe around the issue of poor parenting.
4.Parenting is at an all time low, concerned more with reality shows, dieting, working out and generally behaving like teenagers.
5. parents babysit with game systems and the tv.
Teachers never had a chance. Working with kids really gives you a picture of what home life is like. This is very scary, we are in for a bleek future.
"Bleak". Not "bleek".

Were you one of those teachers?
Mark

Springfield, MA

#7 Feb 24, 2010
I think it is a sin they did this! The comment from Concerned Parent is 100% right! I am an elementary school teacher and we talk about it often, a teacher can only do so much. We are not miracle workers, not all kids are the type of kids we wish they would be. That is not our fault. Parents need to see the importance of education and foster that at home also, NOT leave all the responsibility on others and then look for blame outside of themselves. In my class I have old books, supplies I buy for the most part out of my pocket, and deal with children that don't understand the importance of education when they come from a home where education is not necessarily prevalent. I love my job and love my kids, but what this type of action will do to other teachers is make sure they get the results one way or another, and when they still pop out of school stupid, then whose fault will it be....
Mark

Springfield, MA

#8 Feb 24, 2010
Crazy Like Hell wrote:
Teachers here should be fired when students do not meet state requirements. These sometimes rude sarcastic and sometimes downright annoying teachers should wake up in the morning and look at themselves in the mirror and ask themselves is it me ! Collecting a pay check and thinking everything is all right does not cut it.
You have no idea what you are talking about! I am a teacher and love what I do - but if you think that all kids can be educated to the level that is expected, what all this shows is it is more difficult then people think. ALSO maybe if we had fewer kids, better and more supplies, more modern classrooms with the technology that in this day and age we should have, MAYBE - just MAYBE - it would be a step in the right direction rather then blame the teacher that runs and overcrowded - underfunded classroom with no support from home!
Parent

United States

#9 Feb 24, 2010
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-lausd...

Teachers take control of school that has been failing (due to others there? Admin?)
Different approach.
EJM

Superior, WI

#10 Feb 24, 2010
It's obvious that many posters have not been in public schools lately.

What's the attendance rate for this school? If kids don't come to school, how can they be expected to graduate and/or meet standards? I'll bet the attendance rate/tardy rate is off the wall.

Additionally, if a student is failing, why aren't the parents helping a student to pass? It's called parenting.
Funny

United States

#11 Feb 24, 2010
WHS principal narrates how his admin perform:

Common Sense

Salinas, CA

#12 Feb 24, 2010
I'd like to see this happen in more schools. Time to break a bunch of iron rice bowls.
Concerned parent

East Providence, RI

#13 Feb 24, 2010
Sum Dim wrote:
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"Bleak". Not "bleek".
Were you one of those teachers?
So while we are trying to discuss an administration irresponsible reaction toward its teachers, and whether they realize it our not, the students and parents, YOU ARE GOING TO CORRECT SPELLING???You have the makings of a WONDERFUL, administrator, certainly NOT A TEACHER. If you have nothing constructive to contribute, it is better to remain silent and have people unwittingly believe you have some value.
Richard Heckler

Lawrence, KS

#14 Feb 24, 2010
It's not the teachers fault. Where are the parents?

There is a corrupt movement in this country to privatize public education. These people and their politicians run around the country screaming public schools are awful and cannot do the job. What a load of crap.

This is covert operation to set up corporate schools aka Charter schools and/or private schools if you will. These schools cannot guarantee a better education. BUT THEY CAN SUCK UP YOUR TAX DOLLARS IN A BIG WAY. These schools are all about profit and high dollar principals with shareholders as the icing on the cake.

Once again americans are being led astray by political rhetoric from the very people they claim disdain for....... POLITICIANS and their corporate special interests.

It's not the public schools. It's the lack of parental guidance!!!
looking for solutions

Cumberland, RI

#16 Feb 25, 2010
Crazy like Hell failed wrote:
How do teachers fix :
1.children cannot be failed
2.more funding is spent on disfunctional kids 3.politicians tip toe around the issue of poor parenting.
4.Parenting is at an all time low, concerned more with reality shows, dieting, working out and generally behaving like teenagers.
5. parents babysit with game systems and the tv.
Teachers never had a chance. Working with kids really gives you a picture of what home life is like. This is very scary, we are in for a bleek future.
SO true!
looking for solutions

Cumberland, RI

#17 Feb 25, 2010
EJM wrote:
It's obvious that many posters have not been in public schools lately.
What's the attendance rate for this school? If kids don't come to school, how can they be expected to graduate and/or meet standards? I'll bet the attendance rate/tardy rate is off the wall.
Additionally, if a student is failing, why aren't the parents helping a student to pass? It's called parenting.
I am a parent who has been VERY involved with my kids, and would always call the school if I was unsure if my youngest child was missing an assignment. This system worked well until she got to the high school.
The secretary would take a message for me (screen the calls) and I would hear back a WEEK later when the assignment was past due.
no one ever responded to emails...the school was like a fortress you could not penetrate. SO frustrating!!! Now I have my youngest child in a school 3 towns away and have to pay $8,000 a year just so she can get a basic high school education. My oldest child thank God graduated and is in college...I'm paying for that TOO!
The high school they went to was just TOO big. TOO many students and not enough teachers, and completely over run by drugs! The teachers have NO support from admin. The culture at the school was unbearable...SO much tension...It's SO sad. I wish we could pin point the problems...which came first...the chicken or the egg...perhaps a bit of both.
looking for solutions

Cumberland, RI

#18 Feb 25, 2010
Sum Dim wrote:
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Yes, I'm GOING TO CORRECT SPELLING. Isn't that what teachers are supposed to do? With your attitude, no wonder that school is generating a bunch of halfwits. Don't come whining to me when the Indians and Chinese come and take all your good jobs and the Mexicans and Guatemalans take your lousy ones, leaving you unemployed.
Idiot.
You are being rude and not staying with the topic. Please stop
looking for solutions

Cumberland, RI

#19 Feb 25, 2010
Crazy Like Hell wrote:
Teachers here should be fired when students do not meet state requirements. These sometimes rude sarcastic and sometimes downright annoying teachers should wake up in the morning and look at themselves in the mirror and ask themselves is it me ! Collecting a pay check and thinking everything is all right does not cut it.
I understand your frustration...though I just don't feel like the situation is as black and white as this statement of yours suggests. We should not scape goat ALL the teachers...the admins would LOVE that...Lets not buy into ALL the CRAP their dishing out.
Concerned parent

East Providence, RI

#20 Feb 25, 2010
Sum Dim wrote:
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Yes, I'm GOING TO CORRECT SPELLING. Isn't that what teachers are supposed to do? With your attitude, no wonder that school is generating a bunch of halfwits. Don't come whining to me when the Indians and Chinese come and take all your good jobs and the Mexicans and Guatemalans take your lousy ones, leaving you unemployed.
Idiot.
It seems you are a very educated fellow using such up-building language. If I may say, you are a typical citizen of this country, quick to judge and escalation. My comment was about making a significant contribution. Your response, a racily charged comment about the perceived superiority and humility of certain ethnic groups. Well done, perhaps you are on the wrong issue. Thanks for helping to build my confidence on the reasonableness and acumen of the American public (that's sarcasm in case you missed it).
Sum Dim

San Jose, CA

#21 Feb 25, 2010
looking for solutions wrote:
<quoted text>You are being rude and not staying with the topic. Please stop
I don't care if you think I'm being rude. You're being an idiot if you think that something as fundamental as proper spelling is "off topic" in a discussion on education.

Are you people serious? Good thing they fired all those teachers. Sheeesh.

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