Dayton-area limestone mansion might be razed | The Columbus Dispatch

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CENTERVILLE, Ohio a ' A developer wants to demolish a large limestone mansion to make way for a multimillion-dollar commercial and residential development.
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evil conservative

Bellefontaine, OH

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Nov 28, 2010
 
We'll start with you, woof.
Colin

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Nov 28, 2010
 
So these developers want to destroy a peice of history because it doesnt fit their asethetic guidlines for their new featureless Mcmansion complex? I dont understand why they cant incorporate the property.
dead and dying

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Nov 29, 2010
 
Dayton is a pit.

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Nov 29, 2010
 
Obviously, posters here don't understand the area. Centerville is south of Dayton, and one of the 675 corridor bedroom communities that lead into Cinci. Very, very affluent. This is a beautiful mansion in a well-kept area.

Here's information the Pispatch isn't delivering:

http://fortheloveofdayton.wordpress.com/2010/...

http://www.local12.com/news/state/story/Devel...

Unfortunately, that area is already inundated heavily with commercial and retain development. I know, I am a former resident of one of the 675 bedroom communities. This is pathetic and Oberer really is going to force this issue...I'd bet my bottom dollar on it.

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Nov 29, 2010
 
^retail development.^ my typo
Enzyte Bob

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Nov 29, 2010
 

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gokeefe wrote:
Obviously, posters here don't understand the area. Centerville is south of Dayton, and one of the 675 corridor bedroom communities that lead into Cinci. Very, very affluent. This is a beautiful mansion in a well-kept area.
Here's information the Pispatch isn't delivering:
http://fortheloveofdayton.wordpress.com/2010/...
http://www.local12.com/news/state/story/Devel...
Unfortunately, that area is already inundated heavily with commercial and retain development. I know, I am a former resident of one of the 675 bedroom communities. This is pathetic and Oberer really is going to force this issue...I'd bet my bottom dollar on it.
It is a head scratcher to me as well-I can't understand why people are so dense. Dayton may be the pits, but the city of Dayton is only 20% of the Dayton metro area. Most of suburban Dayton along I-675 is just as nice as anything around here or in greater Cincinnati.

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#8
Nov 29, 2010
 
So if Evanko and her 7 siblings don't want it to be torn down, what is the problem? They own it.

Oh, I get it, they want to sell it and run with the money but still control the old home place.

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Nov 29, 2010
 
There seems to be a dispute of it's historic nature. I don't know all of the details yet.

But, it appears as if the Dilles are still the legal owners of the property. I think Oberer is attempting to get the city of Centerville to try some eminent domain perhaps?

Not sure how this will work, though. There are several jurisdictions <hee hee hee>.

This somewhat overlaps City of Centerville boundaries, the Greene/Montgomery County boundaries, and Sugarcreek Twp boundaries.

There are two Dilles actively living on this property still--and they would have to be well into their 50s or 60s minimum, likely much older. The property has never been empty as near as I figure. The Dilles' parents bought the property in the 1930s. So somehow running out with the money isn't the question. It could be Oberer wants the property and they're frustrating Oberer with their development efforts.

Trust me, that land is highly valuable there. Drive down there sometime and see the McMansion development and commercial retail down there sometime. The real estate bubble hasn't burst there...at least yet. One of the few zones that haven't been hit hard in Ohio.
Mark

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Nov 29, 2010
 
Um.........why don't they just integrate it into the development plan? People are clueless.
gokeefe

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Nov 29, 2010
 
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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It is a head scratcher to me as well-I can't understand why people are so dense. Dayton may be the pits, but the city of Dayton is only 20% of the Dayton metro area. Most of suburban Dayton along I-675 is just as nice as anything around here or in greater Cincinnati.
That's what I don't get.

The Dilles aren't going to make a lot of money off this, particularly since it's split 8 ways.

That area is already inundated with commercial/retail development.

The family has been trying for years to get the house listed as historic. It is IMHO... you have to understand the construction and architecture of the region, the stone angle thing of the story behind the story--I had a house, although not in this region or with that much land, with similar construction -- stone/brick work. It's "indigenous" to the area, and the mansion itself is exquisite.

Oberer has done most of the development in that area and want to take the land and just destroy that beautiful home. The house itself hasn't been inhabited since 1999 but could be easily rehabbed. I'm not sure what the historic requirements are though.

I'm one for making a buck and all, but this really does not make sense other than it is right off of the I675-Wilmington Road exit, one of the hottest development areas in the south Dayton area. Just newly minted there: Miami Valley Hospital South. KMH hospitals just built a large development there (outpatient/doctors offices). Several condo and McMansion developments. The Cub Foods/Walmart shopping center was just expanded and rehabbed. Wilmington Road has been widened to accommodate increased traffic. Property values are increasing there.

This almost seems overkill for the retail/commercial development in that area.
evil conservative

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Nov 29, 2010
 
From what I have heard, it's a big family feud.
1/2 want to sell and the 1/2 want to keep it in the family. There was a huge working orchard behind the house, which could be seen on Feedwire Road. The family fought so much over the orchard
profits, one of them (the one that actually wanted to keep the property and the orchard) in anger, dug up every single tree.
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Germantown, OH

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Dec 27, 2010
 
Our US national debt is $12.9 trillion; $41,898 per citizen. Add in the unfunded liability of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security and we have another $108.5 trillion equaling $353,110 per citizen. That means each and every citizen of the United States owes our country about $395,000. Per George Will, the USA will borrow 42% of every dollar spent in 2011 and is now borrowing money to rescue Greece from the consequences of their borrowing. Isnít that what Centerville is doing with the Dille Project (Corners of Centerville)? Seems to me there is a plethora of vacant undeveloped land south and west of Centerville; "fountains and fire plugs". Why are you/we barrowing money; TIF; for a new development when we have vacant commercial real estate throughout our community including a soon to be vacant Kroger store?

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