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Good Neighbor Policy

Piqua, OH

#26869 Aug 27, 2013
hypocrite wrote:
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Re: Left - Right - Left - Right
Unbelievable! You make a legitimately clever anaology of forward progress via an illustration of 'one step at a time', then you proceed to completely ruin that analogy by resuming your incessant intolerant rant.
Please do us all a big favor. The next time you feel compelled to hurl, please refrain from hurling all over your computer keyboard. This is one of the things toilet bowls are designed for.
...hmmm, Got Respect?

"There's only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self."
-Aldous Huxley-
Run Ron Run

Piqua, OH

#26870 Aug 27, 2013
Ask Ron Malone wrote:
Mr. Malone, during the past thirteen years of your employment as SHS principal, isn't it true that you have focused more on being a "PAL" than on the strong principles of being a "Professional Educator?"
....it's all very vague...I'm overwhelmed ... the community is very supportive....the bottom line is that we are running to gain control of the board ....
reality

Girard, OH

#26871 Aug 27, 2013
Performance Review wrote:
<quoted text>
....maybe it's time to consider designating a seating section specifically for Non-Unionism attendees?
Great idea! Because of the union's intimidation factor probably three chairs would be needed, four at the very most.
Ask Ron Malone

Piqua, OH

#26872 Aug 27, 2013
Run Ron Run wrote:
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....it's all very vague...I'm overwhelmed ... the community is very supportive....the bottom line is that we are running to gain control of the board ....
Excuse me, Mr. Malone, sir? sir? are you awake, Mr. Malone?

Our Springboro taxpayers have another question or two:

Are you aware that our successful Children's First Budget has control of run-away labor costs for our children's 21st century classroom education? What do you think of the school board's direction?
School Board Candidate Mr. Malone speaks: There needs to be a re-emphasis on the value of the educator.

"I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest."
(Muhammad Ali)
All Fired Up

Piqua, OH

#26873 Aug 27, 2013
reality wrote:
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Great idea! Because of the union's intimidation factor probably three chairs would be needed, four at the very most.
Totally Agree! Dr. Malone is all fired up with a "hunka hunka of burning love for his kids" and he aim to mount that BOE bully pulpit and take control as Biggest Bully in Chief, with his status quo mantra of re-instating big bully business as usual....

"Men as communities are supreme over men as individuals."
-Woodrow Wilson-

No Greater recipe for bullying has ever been created!
(To that end, Woodrow Wilson emboldened labor unions as the chief tool for stripping the wealthy of their power).

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#26874 Aug 27, 2013
Run Ron Run wrote:
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....it's all very vague...I'm overwhelmed ... the community is very supportive....the bottom line is that we are running to gain control of the board ....
this is interesting that you show an assumption that we (as voters had some level of control) and in addtion that the new canidates are a reflection regaining that control. Stats show that both assumptions are faulted
two of the "new canidates were a major part of the PCBOE prior to Current BOE in which the voters were left out in thought process ie 5 failed levies and current BOE has found monies and the PCBOE statement of lack of monies when PCBOE was spending money on harassing voters BORO FIVE in columbus and funding rallies of support do the research PCBOE and current which era shows voter control more ?
Thank You Kelly

Piqua, OH

#26875 Aug 27, 2013
Just Watching wrote:
This could be our collective future.
Some UNION-CONTROLLED SCHOOL BOARDS in Michigan are finding that revenue has not been keeping up with expenses, likely due to a lack of fiscal prudence and their INABILITY TO SAY "NO" TO THEIR UNION FRIENDS.
As a result, several school districts are on the brink of insolvency and they’ve stretched the patience of state officials to the breaking point.
The state House has passed legislation allowing the state superintendent and state treasurer to “dissolve” a school district if leaders fail to submit a deficit reduction plan or prove incapable of implementing such a plan. Dissolved districts would become part of neighboring districts.
That would seem like a fitting fate for districts like Saginaw Buena Vista, which had to close school for several days this spring due to its inability to meet payroll.
Responsible adults should be concerned about the effect that such poor management has on students. But the Michigan Education Association, the state’s largest teachers union, is worried about possible displacement of teachers.
The union wrote:
“…Republicans in the state House rammed through legislation late Thursday night that would dissolve the Buena Vista and Inkster school districts and leave employees in those dissolved districts without the right to a job in the receiving districts.”
Only unionized government employees think they have a right to a job. That’s not the way it works in the real world.
If a private business closes, should employees have a right to a job with a competitor? Of course not. That’s nonsense. But that’s the mindset of government employee unions.
The focus should be on the students and how best to meet their educational needs. Clearly the school employees and elected leaders in the affected districts weren’t getting the job done – otherwise we wouldn’t be reading about them.
Neither the Buena Vista nor the Inkster districts were models of academic success. Perhaps some of the teachers in those districts shouldn’t be in the profession in the first place.
But that doesn’t matter to MEA leaders. All they care about is their members’ privileges, and the dues those members pay when they are employed.
This is just another footnote in the long history of teacher union greed. But it goes a long way toward explaining how some schools got into their financial predicament in the first place. The unions have been dominant in Michigan public schools for decades, and they have nearly succeeded in sucking the financial life out of them.
Our Springboro Education Association members and Parents
For S-U-R-E that are embarrassed because our BOE President, Kelly Kohls, is In The News, should read the comparison of Michigan news in the above post vs what is said in Ohio about Springboro Schools. The following is from Letters to the editor in the Dayton Daily News, August 18, 2013.

Springboro citizens should thank Kohls

Re “Kohls won’t run for re-election,” Aug, 8:

A renewal levy with a decrease? Unheard of, except in Springboro, Ohio.District citizens should thank Springboro school president Kelly Kohls and board members David Petroni and Jim Rigano for the courage and tenacity exhibited in putting the district’s finances in order while still improving the education of their students. The teachers union and their supporters opposed them at every turn. Common sense and fiscal accountability finally prevailed. A word to the wise: When voting in November for a replacement, keep in mind the belief that put your district into financial difficulty to begin with. That result? Five defeated tax increase levies. The belief: There’s no end to dunning taxpayers for more, using the false mantra “It’s for the kids.”
-Thomas Subler,Versailles
No Big Favors

Piqua, OH

#26876 Aug 27, 2013
hypocrite wrote:
<quoted text>
Re: Left - Right - Left - Right
Unbelievable! You make a legitimately clever anaology of forward progress via an illustration of 'one step at a time', then you proceed to completely ruin that analogy by resuming your incessant intolerant rant.
Please do us all a big favor. The next time you feel compelled to hurl, please refrain from hurling all over your computer keyboard. This is one of the things toilet bowls are designed for.
Got Pride?
No big favor for Y'All way down low in the Boro...next time you feel compelled to hurl on trash talk topix, please remember
for S-U-R-E Potty-Mouthed Moms just "keep it in the board
room." This is one of the things that Pre-Arranged Participation in front of the TV cameras are designed for.- Love Ya!
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#26877 Aug 27, 2013
Giving Mr. David Bowman some wider circulation and the opportunity for some to comment on his verbosity.

From Mr Bowman's blog of August 5, 2013

"While we can’t reclaim all five seats on this board in November, taking back three of them will put balance and stability in place and restore some semblance of sanity to our schools and community. With two minority seats retained, the remaining board members can still have their voice heard, still have financial input, still bring issues to the table, but will not have the absolute, unchecked authority that has run amuck in our community over the past year. We need diversity of perspective, not lockstep adherence to political goals and objectives that are not in the best interests of our children."

Mr. Bowman's logical process seems to be screaming against conservative board control and only sees switching it to liberal union led board control as the lone solution available.

Nothing says progress like handing the purse strings to the union members on the school board so that they may more equitably negotiate with their union brethren.

That my friends is a recipe for disaster that has played out relentlessly over the past five years.

Mr. Bowman is to be forgiven for his lapse in logic and his neglect of whom was behind the majority of hysteria in the school district. Supposed intimates often overlook the warts on a friends face.

Organized union labor are the ones who wished to quash any debate on the merits of numerous issues.
And loudly and contentiously they proceeded to delay every move made by the board in an effort to stifle investigations. Why are they afraid of discussing ideas? Why the strong desire to keep people in the dark regarding finances, organizational structure, weakness in the curriculum, other teaching options, adequate protection of our students, or other aspects of life that go against their professed narratives?

The union and its supporters are not for sunshine, they are for darkness and gloom. The less light cast on these subjects, and others, the better for the union.

Vote for sunshine, vote for people who will stand up for our children instead of a union, and vote for people who can solve problems without taking more unneeded money from you.
Lurker

Englewood, OH

#26878 Aug 28, 2013
reality wrote:
<quoted text>
Great idea! Because of the union's intimidation factor probably three chairs would be needed, four at the very most.
Yep, I am very intimidated by those union "thugs". LOL, if they intimidate you, you need to get out more!
the cheese on the cracker

Girard, OH

#26879 Aug 28, 2013
Thanks so much David Petroni for telling it like it really is!

From: "Welcome Back to School!"

"Thirdly, uncertainty on contract negotiations played a role. Although our Board of Education invited the unions to open negotiations in January, that open invitation was declined by the unions. This pushed negotiations, and the associated uncertainty of what the future held financially for our teachers and staff, well into the summer. As a result, we lost more teachers than we normally would have as some sought a financial stability in their income flow that was not threatened by union activity that they had little to no control over."

educatespringboro.org/
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#26880 Aug 28, 2013
the cheese on the cracker wrote:
Thanks so much David Petroni for telling it like it really is!
From: "Welcome Back to School!"
"Thirdly, uncertainty on contract negotiations played a role. Although our Board of Education invited the unions to open negotiations in January, that open invitation was declined by the unions. This pushed negotiations, and the associated uncertainty of what the future held financially for our teachers and staff, well into the summer. As a result, we lost more teachers than we normally would have as some sought a financial stability in their income flow that was not threatened by union activity that they had little to no control over."
educatespringboro.org/
Nice article in the DDN regarding the teacher negotiations with the OEA in that district. Anyone see a familiar playbook being played out in another district. Unfair labor practice grievance filed against school, claims of no raises since 2010, etc, etc.

We were by no means unique.
reality

Girard, OH

#26881 Aug 28, 2013
Lurker wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, I am very intimidated by those union "thugs". LOL, if they intimidate you, you need to get out more!
Please stop it!! I'm at board meetings all the time!!!You know exactly what I'm talking about. Springboro board meetings are lined wall to wall with teachers. Speakers are required to state their name and street address. If and when a parent of a district student speaks in support of a conservative agenda or speaks out strongly against a SEA agenda, they run a serious risk that their children or their families will become targets for some sort of future retaliation. This sort of stuff went on unabated during the David Baker era and much of it continues today. The majority of parents in this district over time tend to either get discouraged or disgusted with school politics. It's not surprising that many parents that consistently attend board meetings do so because they have union jobs or strong union ties, and they feel as though it's their duty to support union brethren.
Eyes Wide Open

Piqua, OH

#26882 Aug 28, 2013
Rip Van Winkle wrote:
Not this last meeting but the one before it. Did anyone see Malone fast asleep with his head back and mouth agape during the meeting? Grapevine has it that he has trouble staying awake during principal meetings and has to be nudged alert by students during in class teacher evaluations.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Yes, all stay alert voters see the leadersip weaknesses in our
certified school board candidate, Mr. Ron Malone, who now seeks
in November 2013, to gain control of the successful agenda of our Springboro Schools Board of Education and re-instate staus quo business as usual.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#26883 Aug 28, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice article in the DDN regarding the teacher negotiations with the OEA in that district. Anyone see a familiar playbook being played out in another district. Unfair labor practice grievance filed against school, claims of no raises since 2010, etc, etc.
We were by no means unique.
The district is Fairborn.
Excuse Me

Piqua, OH

#26884 Aug 28, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
Giving Mr. David Bowman some wider circulation and the opportunity for some to comment on his verbosity.
From Mr Bowman's blog of August 5, 2013
"While we can’t reclaim all five seats on this board in November, taking back three of them will put balance and stability in place and restore some semblance of sanity to our schools and community. With two minority seats retained, the remaining board members can still have their voice heard, still have financial input, still bring issues to the table, but will not have the absolute, unchecked authority that has run amuck in our community over the past year. We need diversity of perspective, not lockstep adherence to political goals and objectives that are not in the best interests of our children."
Mr. Bowman's logical process seems to be screaming against conservative board control and only sees switching it to liberal union led board control as the lone solution available.
Nothing says progress like handing the purse strings to the union members on the school board so that they may more equitably negotiate with their union brethren.
That my friends is a recipe for disaster that has played out relentlessly over the past five years.
Mr. Bowman is to be forgiven for his lapse in logic and his neglect of whom was behind the majority of hysteria in the school district. Supposed intimates often overlook the warts on a friends face.
Organized union labor are the ones who wished to quash any debate on the merits of numerous issues.
And loudly and contentiously they proceeded to delay every move made by the board in an effort to stifle investigations. Why are they afraid of discussing ideas? Why the strong desire to keep people in the dark regarding finances, organizational structure, weakness in the curriculum, other teaching options, adequate protection of our students, or other aspects of life that go against their professed narratives?
The union and its supporters are not for sunshine, they are for darkness and gloom. The less light cast on these subjects, and others, the better for the union.
Vote for sunshine, vote for people who will stand up for our children instead of a union, and vote for people who can solve problems without taking more unneeded money from you.
Excuse me, Sir. Have you noticed your empty chair?
New Day New Attitude

Piqua, OH

#26885 Aug 28, 2013
Rip Van Winkle wrote:
Not this last meeting but the one before it. Did anyone see Malone fast asleep with his head back and mouth agape during the meeting? Grapevine has it that he has trouble staying awake during principal meetings and has to be nudged alert by students during in class teacher evaluations.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
That's funny! But, that was the principal who has been on the job for the PAST forty years... so a few naps here and there are in order, but not in the board room!

Today, parents are greeted with a new attitude being projected by our new staff for the school days of 2013-14! Evidence of new beginnings are also seen in our neighborhoods; as we see "physical evidence" of our school tax dollars at work, keeping our children safer this year than last.(Last school year our neighborhood parents were devastated to see our kids' school bus break down on our street and have to be hauled away). This year, we wave good bye to our kids at the bus stop as they head off to school in new buses! Children's first budgeting works in the best interest of our classroom education and much more!

Springboro’s 2013 back-to-school list includes long overdue capital improvements to building interiors, roofs and parking lots; more resources for reading and gifted education in the elementary grades; new curriculum to align with state standards; and more than a $1.1 million upgrade to technology in each and every building.

In fact, the following needs are ACCOUNTED FOR in the current budget through the 2017 budget:
· over $2 million in text books and new adoptions
· over $2.1 million for new buses
· over $3.7 million in capital needs and deferred maintenance
· over $1.5 million in technology
· over $7.5 million increase for our staff in raises.

For Sure Springboro parents owe a debt of gratitude to Springboro taxpayers and our school board representatives and school district leaders, for all that they do ensuring a quality classroom education for all students, while making Springboro a safe and affordable place to live, learn, work, and play sports!
With our school community and community of taxpayers Working Together, our kids really can have it all for a great future
while living within the framework of children's first budget and renewal levy in the fall.
New Day New Attitude

Piqua, OH

#26886 Aug 28, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
HSTW Ohio Regions
Technical Assistance Visit Report
Springboro High School, Springboro, Ohio
December 14-15, 2010
This report presents findings of a High Schools That Work (HSTW) Technical Assistance Visit (TAV) to Springboro High School (SHS), Springboro, Ohio, on December 14-15, 2010. It describes major goals facing administrators, faculty and students in achieving the HSTW Goals, Key Practices and Key Conditions to implement the HSTW school improvement design.
For each TAV goal, the report provides the school with recommended action steps and resources for HSTW Key Practices and/or state/federal accountability targets selected by the school or the TAV Team to close achievement gaps and increase student achievement.......
The report reflects the limitations of a two-day visit to assess all efforts under way to improve the academic achievement of all students. HSTW Ohio Regions and the Ohio Department of Education, in collaboration with the Southern Regional Education Board (SREB), require a TAV as part of the overall HSTW school improvement process.....
Overriding Goal: Close the achievement gaps and raise student achievement in meeting state, federal and HSTW targets by 2014. To achieve this goal, the school must continue to create a culture of high expectations and provide extra help........
This year, six percent (91 students) of students enrolled in Warren County Career Center (WCCC). These students are not all enrolled in career-technical (C-T) concentrations. Some are in the Teacher Academy and/or the Senior Internship program.

All of this begs the question, what was Mr. Malone doing with his curriculum?
Just 13% of his students were in A/P classes? LESS than 2% were enrolled in PSEO?
That amounts to LESS than 1 child in 7 getting a rigorous course of study.
This was as good as Mr. Malone could produce, 1 out of 7 students gets a real education?
Mr. Malone, who has been a SHS principal for the PAST 13 years, is now successfully retired as a professional educator, and is insanely popular with the SEA school community; And is now running for election as school board representative to gain control of the board of education; But what about Malone's PAST record of providing a real education for only 1 out of 7 students?

Springboro parents should ask themselves at the polls in November:
Why vote for BOE representation for only 1 out of 7 students?
Shouldn't ALL Springboro students be afforded the education that generous taxpayers have financed with our hard-earned school tax dollars?
Remember the TIme

Piqua, OH

#26887 Aug 28, 2013
WHAT wrote:
I never thought I'd live to see the day where Lisa Babb would abandon her so called passion, the kids and community, because a couple of men told her to.
Seems the men, even with CBF (Community Babb Fatigue), were scared that she would siphon of votes from them to her.
Looks like she finally got her priorities straight. It just took a couple of men to tell her. Lmbo.
Don't you remember in school board election 2011 when Lisa Babb run her campaign entirely on what she said that "the board told her to do?" Lisa doesn't appear to have a strong principle of passion; just a strong passion for the principal's status quo business as usual leadership; just going along to get along with the Springboro Education Association for collecting more, more, more....
In Lisa's critical "collective" thinking skill-set, if she steps down to ensure that Ron,David,and Charles gain control of the board for the union, then she is part of the "Shared" leadership
of the collective Threesome of men in power.
Union Solidarity Means Never Ruling Alone.
Reject Forced Unionism

Piqua, OH

#26888 Aug 28, 2013
Does the OEA encourage teachers to indoctrinate Ohio’s Kids?
Is the OEA monthly newsletter to teachers posted on public websites?
Do we parents know what our children are learning from teacher unionists, who believe along with the OEA, that teachers should not only be members of a labor union, but also should indoctrinate our children on unionism?

As the OEA dictates teachers in their monthly newsletter,“It’s essential that they not only be teacher unionists, but teachers of unionism. We need to create a generation of students who support teachers and the movements of teachers for their rights.”
How about they focus on just teaching our kids the core skills they will need in math, reading, writing, and science? How about they leave their political ideology and unionism out of the classroom? As the National Assessment of Educational Progress results show, more than half of America’s 8th graders fail basic civics tests. Clearly, our teachers have enough to do already.

The OEA needs to keep its left-wing views outside of the classroom and its hands off our kids’ curriculum. This type of indoctrination isn’t a surprise coming from a group with a leader who once boldly admitted it was more concerned with getting more power than the best interest of our kids.

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