Blaming Israel for carnage

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must a fckk

Tel Aviv, Israel

#103195 Mar 22, 2013
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Hey, Gravy ... how do you like the Prez quote..??

Would you like some more of Obama's visit quotes..??

Share it with your friends at the sewage hole..

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

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must a fckk

Tel Aviv, Israel

#103196 Mar 22, 2013
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VeteransToday ... should devote the front page to Obama's quote...

HAHAHAHAHAHA..
ana

London, UK

#103197 Mar 22, 2013
must a fckk wrote:
<quoted text>-

Prove it, mddr fckkr lier, savage ignorant s.o.b.

"" About 750,000 Palestinians were expelled from their native land in 1948. These expulsions were done by Zionist armies using terror, home destruction, starvation, fear inducing propaganda and threats of death.

Over 500 Palestinian villages were ethnically cleansed and destroyed by Zionist armed forces at that time. In defiance of UN resolutions, none of these Palestinian refugees were allowed to return. ""

I challenge you, bastard son of Joseph Goebels..
Prove it..!!

..
From what I have observed from many Israelis who post on such forums is their lack of piety and ability to think aside from all the propaganda you have been fed since your mothers stopped Breast feeding you....

Luckily I know Israeli people who see the situation for what it really is...

Your type is the looser at the end of the day, being driven and filled by so much rage is quite debilitating and is definitely not good for ulcers or heart conditions

Must be a drag when ones existence is filled with so much hatred

Try thinking for yourself rather than what others have told you to think

Try reading information of opposing sides, rather than what you have been told to read

Try asking questions, and questioning why things happen as they do, it often doesn't happen as we are told
Gray

Richmond, VA

#103198 Mar 22, 2013
ana wrote:
<quoted text>
EDITED FOR SPACE

Peace
I'm sorry for what happened to EVERYONE during WW 1 & WW 2 (many historians consider them one big war)

However, the "holocaust" as "Advertised" has turned out to be a Proven fraud
I know that Western Minds have been conditioned to hate "Holocaust Deniers" without thinking about the fact that no, One Ethnic Group, Nationality etc has a Monopoly on either good or Evil.

Since Time reveals All Truths, "Red Cross Tracing facilities, The Ankara Documents, etc confirm that the GERMANS were the most innocent "Sufferers"

I lived, studied,, worked etc in "W. Germany" & had access (via US Mil.) to recently released Records.

Some STILL remain Classified.

Don’t EVER expect to see The following FACTS published in our "Democracy"?

“The Morgenthau” Plan
http://www.fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/Morgenthau....

“The Morgenthau Plan would have led to the death by starvation and pestilence of ten million Germans in the first two years after the war, in addition to the one million who had been killed in the saturation bombing and the three million killed in the enforced expulsion from Germany's eastern territories.”CONTINUED

“Why The Zionists Killed General George S. Patton”
http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.com/2...
“His duties as military governor took Patton to all parts of Germany and intimately acquainted him with the German people and their condition.

He could not help but compare them with the French, the Italians, the Belgians, and even the British.

This comparison gradually forced him to the conclusion that World War II had been fought against the wrong people." CONTINUED

"BAD THINGS" still happen to those who speak up!
---

Our Ziono-Media CENSORS anything not conforming to their currently successful: "EVIL GERMAN"/EVIL MUSLIM" Brainwashing.

Imagine THIS EVER reaching your eyes:

“Paris during Nazi occupation was ‘one big romp’”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/e...
De Beauvoir wrote about the “quite spontaneous friendliness” of the conquerors: she was as fascinated as any by the German “cult of the body” and their penchant for exercising in nothing but gym shorts." CONTINUED

Another CENSORED Reality is that German Officers sacrificed their Lives because they REFUSED Hitler's Orders to "Destroy Paris"!

Meanwhile, "Heroic" Allied Bombers unnecessarily, Burned unprotected Dresden's Civilians in a REAL Holocaust!

AND:

“Did the Allies Starve Millions of Germans?”
http://www.serendipity.li/hr/bacque01.htm
As soon as the Second World War ended in 1945, Canada and the United States began shipping food to the hundreds of millions of people who were facing starvation as a result of the war.

Only Germany was left out.
What is not generally known is that these occupying Allied armies carved off 25 per cent of Germany's most fertile land and placed it under Russian and Polish control, forcibly expelling about 16 millions people into what remained."CONTINUED

However, I actually spoke with one of these CENSORED Survivors (He got no $$; No "Memorials" etcc) af another REAL Holocaust!

That demented bastard; Eisenhower ordered that US G.I.s or German civilians caught passing food through the fence BE SHOT!

“Eisenhower's Holocaust - His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million Germans”

“Re-Writing History:“The Eisenhower Death Camps”
http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com/2009/...
by Lt. Col. Gordon "Jack" Mohr, AUS Ret.

It's taken over 60 years for Russian, US, Classified etc Documents to Prove just THESE Facts that will NEVER meet American eyes because of our Ziono-Media Monopoly MUST monopolize the Pity & Extortion Market with their "mere" 271,000, MEMBERS ONLY "Holy-Co$T" Racket.

What's chilling is to consider the OTHER "Selective Outrages" that remain Classified......and WHY?

Thanks

Gray
Gray

Richmond, VA

#103201 Mar 22, 2013
ana wrote:
<quoted text>
From what I have observed from many Israelis who post on such forums is their lack of piety and ability to think aside from all the propaganda you have been fed since your mothers stopped Breast feeding you....
Luckily I know Israeli people who see the situation for what it really is...
Your type is the looser at the end of the day, being driven and filled by so much rage is quite debilitating and is definitely not good for ulcers or heart conditions
Must be a drag when ones existence is filled with so much hatred
Try thinking for yourself rather than what others have told you to think
Try reading information of opposing sides, rather than what you have been told to read
Try asking questions, and questioning why things happen as they do, it often doesn't happen as we are told
Hello ana,

It's a shame to know the potential good for Forums like this when it comes to Fact Sharing, and Fighting the Genocidal Atrocities OF TODAY. Nothing can be done about the ones of yesterday.

The "individual" to whom you were responding is simply among Israel's desperate, Paid, Full Time, Shills who are Hied to Disrupt the exchange of facts etc I mentioned.

They're just doing a very lowly "Job" for a very Lowly Regime.

Of course there are countless, ethical & decent Israeli Jews who are equally repulsed by the "Hasbara Ilk" (you know the ones.....just ignore their attempts to WASTE YOUR TIME & don't respond

The following should look familiar:

“Israel’s propagandists shoot themselves in the foot as they shoot off their mouths”
http://www.gregfelton.com/media/2009_09_30.ht...

EXCERPTS
“If you have ever visited a blog or on-line discussion group on the Middle East you have doubtless had the misfortune to run into them.
They are known by the language they use: depraved sexual insults, bile, bigotry, threats, disinformation and character assassination. That’s right: I’m talking about “hasbarats,” zionist trolls who infect the Internet with hasbara, pro-Israel propaganda.
The Internet, though, is the latest, some might say the greatest, propaganda playground, and Israel cannot cope with factual, passionate, well-documented stories that expose its war crimes and unrepentant criminality.

If you’ve come across a hasbarat, on-line or otherwise, you have learned that no amount of reasoned argument or intellectual maturity has any effect. That’s because hasbarats don’t care if they come across as ignorant, obnoxious, nasty or inane. All that matters for them is sabotaging criticism of Israel and support for Muslims. They're like anti-intellectual stink bombs: designed to cause maximum discomfort but have little if any real power.” CONTINUED

Please note THESE Examples of the "Good Israelis"

Now, THESE guys have REAL Guts:

-“BREAKING THE SILENCE”
“Israeli soldiers talk about the occupied territories”
http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/

-“Israelis Who Speak for Justice”
http://consortiumnews.com/2012/01/16/israelis...

“JEWISH WRITERS CLAIM POWERFUL ZIONISTS DROVE USA INTO MID-EAST WAR FOR SAKE OF ISRAEL”
http://www.usa-exile.org/news/0304/13/zionist...
http://www.theweeklyinformant.com/arishavit.h...

Jewish Voice For Peace (SF Bay Area)- &#8232; http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/  &#8232;

B'tselem - http://www.btselem.org/English/Publications/i...

Yesh Gvul - http://www.yesh-gvul.org/english.html  &#8232;The movement for soldiers of the Israeli Defence Force (IDF) refusing to serve in the Occupied Territories. &#8232;

“JEWS AGAINST RACIST ZIONISM”
http://sites.google.com/site/jewsagainstracis...

“JEWS AGAINST ISRAELI TERRORISM”
http://www.palestiniantragedy.com/jewsagainst...

The Israeli Jews; especially "Breaking The Silence" are frequently persecuted by an increasingly Genocidal, Hate Filled, Extremist Regime & Populace....

CONTINUED:
ana

London, UK

#103202 Mar 22, 2013
Gray wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sorry for what happened to EVERYONE during WW 1 & WW 2 (many historians consider them one big war)

However, the "holocaust" as "Advertised" has turned out to be a Proven fraud
I know that Western Minds have been
But denying the holocaust all together is incorrect... it happened, my grandfather was in a concentration camp he wasn't Jewish, he saw with his own eyes and bared the scars to prove it

But as I said yes some have used the holocaust as a means to manipulate circumstances

And I find it really disrespectful to deny something that was used murder countless numbers of people , these people had nothing to do with Israel , why deny them their justice???

It's not their fault what is happening between Israelis and Palestinians

I also do not like the over used accusation of being an anti Semite of you oppose the behaviour and attitudes of some Israelis towards Palestinians and the palestinian Israeli conflict, it's just ridiculous. And this will end up doing them no favours as people begin to tire of it..... And there will no less and less sympathy

Did u read Amira Hass's recent article dates today
ana

London, UK

#103204 Mar 22, 2013
Gray wrote:
<quoted text>Hello ana,

It's a shame to know the potential good for Forums like this when it comes to Fact Sharing, and Fighting the Genocidal Atrocities OF TODAY. Nothing can be done about the ones of yesterday.

The "individual" to whom you were responding is simply among Israel's desperate, Paid, Full Time, Shills who are Hied to Disrupt the exchange of facts etc I mentioned.

They're just doing a very lowly "Job" for a very Lowly Regime.

Of course there are countless, ethical & decent Israeli Jews who are equally repulsed by the "Hasbara Ilk" (you know the ones.....just ignore their attempts to WASTE YOUR TIME & don't respond

The following should look familiar:

“Israel’s propagandists shoot themselves in the foot as they shoot off their mouths”
http://www.gregfelton.com/media/2009_09_30.ht...

EXCERPTS
“If you have ever visited a blog or on-line discussion group on the Middle East you have doubtless had the misfortune to run into them.
They are known by the language they use: depraved sexual insults, bile, bigotry, threats, disinformation and character assassination. That’s right: I’m talking about “hasbarats,” zionist trolls who infect the Internet with hasbara, pro-Israel propaganda.
The Internet, though, is the latest, some might say the greatest, propaganda playground, and Israel cannot cope with factual, passionate, well-documented stories that expose its war crimes and unrepentant criminality.

If you’ve come across a hasbarat, on-line or otherwise, you have learned that no amount of reasoned argument or intellectual maturity has any effect. That’s because hasbarats don’t care if they come across as ignorant, obnoxious, nasty or inane. All that matters for them is sabotaging criticism of Israel and support for Muslims. They're like anti-intellectual stink bombs: designed to cause maximum discomfort but have little if any real power.” CONTINUED

Please note THESE Examples of the "Good Israelis"

Now, THESE guys have REAL Guts:

-“BREAKING THE SILENCE”
“Israeli soldiers talk about the occupied territories”
http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/

-“Israelis Who Speak for Justice”
http://consortiumnews.com/2012/01/16/israelis...

“JEWISH WRITERS CLAIM POWERFUL ZIONISTS DROVE USA INTO MID-EAST WAR FOR SAKE OF ISRAEL”
http://www.usa-exile.org/news/0304/13/zionist...
http://www.theweeklyinformant.com/arishavit.h...

Jewish Voice For Peace (SF Bay Area)- &#8232; http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/ &#8232;

B'tselem - http://www.btselem.org/English/Publications/i...

Yesh Gvul - http://www.yesh-gvul.org/english.html &#8232;The movement for soldiers of the Israeli Defence Force (IDF) refusing to serve in the Occupied Territories. &#8232;

“JEWS AGAINST RACIST ZIONISM”
http://sites.google.com/site/jewsagainstracis...

“JEWS AGAINST ISRAELI TERRORISM”
http://www.palestiniantragedy.com/jewsagainst...

The Israeli Jews; especially "Breaking The Silence" are frequently persecuted by an increasingly Genocidal, Hate Filled, Extremist Regime & Populace....

CONTINUED:
You actually informed me about them last year and yes now they are easy to spot, they all use the same ridiculous language and come across as completely insane, it is just an attempt to thwart any healthy debate and sidetrack people from engaging in an interesting conversation and diverting it towards arguments revolving around their absurd claims and accusations.... This then accomplishes what they intended the original debate stops and you focus on arguing with them... So yes now I just ignore them and ridiculous rants... That professor one seems to have piped down
Gray

Richmond, VA

#103206 Mar 22, 2013
ana wrote:
<quoted text>
You actually informed me about them last year and yes now they are easy to spot, they all use the same ridiculous language and come across as completely insane, it is just an attempt to thwart any healthy debate and sidetrack people from engaging in an interesting conversation and diverting it towards arguments revolving around their absurd claims and accusations.... This then accomplishes what they intended the original debate stops and you focus on arguing with them... So yes now I just ignore them and ridiculous rants... That professor one seems to have piped down
There isn't a "professor" or a Person behind the the Glut of Spammers; they're all interchangable with multiple usernames

This is my last & I'm sorry I've wasted time Opposing a Carnage I hope you'll never know.

Maybe when your son or ? comes home in a "rubber sack" thanks to JINSA, AIPAC etc you'll feel differently.

"We control America"
"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that ... I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." .....Ariel Sharon

"One of the most horrible features of war is that all the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are NOT fighting."
George Orwell, 1938

“I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government.  I just care that we get to keep running them.”         Joel Stein, Los Angeles Times, December 18, 2008.
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“QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.” AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. SUN JAN.’03

“There was not a single act of Arab terrorism against Americans before 1968, when the U.S. became the chief supplier of military equipment and economic aid to Israel.”

"Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can't help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East."-- John Sheehan,
ana

London, UK

#103207 Mar 22, 2013
Gray wrote:
<quoted text>There isn't a "professor" or a Person behind the the Glut of Spammers; they're all interchangable with multiple usernames

This is my last & I'm sorry I've wasted time Opposing a Carnage I hope you'll never know.

Maybe when your son or ? comes home in a "rubber sack" thanks to JINSA, AIPAC etc you'll feel differently.

"We control America"
"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that ... I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." .....Ariel Sharon

"One of the most horrible features of war is that all the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are NOT fighting."
George Orwell, 1938

“I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them.” Joel Stein, Los Angeles Times, December 18, 2008.
-----

“QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.” AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. SUN JAN.’03

“There was not a single act of Arab terrorism against Americans before 1968, when the U.S. became the chief supplier of military equipment and economic aid to Israel.”

"Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can't help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East."-- John Sheehan,
Yes I know they aren't real people and interchangeable ids
What do you mean by the below

This is my last & I'm sorry I've wasted time Opposing a Carnage I hope you'll never know.

Maybe when your son or ? comes home in a "rubber sack" thanks to JINSA, AIPAC etc you'll feel differently.
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#103208 Mar 22, 2013
When considering the Holocaust and examining the logistical feat and human toll, I can't help but think that if Hitler would have directed his misguided efforts at the muslim community, I may be wearing lederhosen and yodeling this very day.
ana

London, UK

#103209 Mar 22, 2013
Faith wrote:
When considering the Holocaust and examining the logistical feat and human toll, I can't help but think that if Hitler would have directed his misguided efforts at the muslim community, I may be wearing lederhosen and yodeling this very day.
Faith ...... That's sick honestly, hitler didn't like the Muslims or Arabs either, the Muslims lived in peace with middle eastern Jews for centuries and in countries like morocco they still do!!

Honestly I do hope your joking and what you say is a far cry from of any sane / normal type of thought
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#103210 Mar 22, 2013
ana wrote:
<quoted text>
Faith ...... That's sick honestly, hitler didn't like the Muslims or Arabs either, the Muslims lived in peace with middle eastern Jews for centuries and in countries like morocco they still do!!
Honestly I do hope your joking and what you say is a far cry from of any sane / normal type of thought
Oh dear! Did I type that? I thought I just thought it. Sorry, Ana.
ocxz

Reunion

#103211 Mar 22, 2013
ana wrote:
<quoted text>

Honestly I do hope your joking and what you say is a far cry from of any sane / normal type of thought
No it is not joking, and what it says actually demmonstrates what it is, a demented psychopatic maniac.

Just a look at it's past comments will give you a clear insight.
ana

London, UK

#103212 Mar 22, 2013
Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Oh dear! Did I type that? I thought I just thought it. Sorry, Ana.
Well it's still quite worrying Faith I must admit and so must you!!
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#103213 Mar 22, 2013
ocxz wrote:
<quoted text>
No it is not joking, and what it says actually demmonstrates what it is, a demented psychopatic maniac.
Just a look at it's past comments will give you a clear insight.
Right. And here you are on the nazi thread, you raving anti-Semite.
ana

London, UK

#103214 Mar 22, 2013
ocxz wrote:
<quoted text>No it is not joking, and what it says actually demmonstrates what it is, a demented psychopatic maniac.

Just a look at it's past comments will give you a clear insight.
I have known faith now for quite some time, I don't think she's that serious she's an animal lover after all ;)
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#103215 Mar 22, 2013
ana wrote:
<quoted text>
Well it's still quite worrying Faith I must admit and so must you!!
I've actually said much worse, Ana. However, compared to mainstream islamic dogma, my casual observations are quite innocuous. The fact is, I am brimming with love for all living creatures. I just like starting trouble.....I can't help it.
Al Qaeda

Reunion

#103216 Mar 22, 2013
ana wrote:
<quoted text>
I have known faith now for quite some time, I don't think she's that serious she's an animal lover after all ;)
Indeed there are quite a few "animal lovers" that won't even look at someone homeless on a street pavement.
ana

London, UK

#103217 Mar 22, 2013
Al Qaeda wrote:
<quoted text>Indeed there are quite a few "animal lovers" that won't even look at someone homeless on a street pavement.
I'm happy you understood my sarcasm there... But why call your self al quaeda surely you wouldn't wish to associate yourself with those scum bags..or what it supposedly stands for!!.

On the contrary I actually don't believe al quada per se exists it's quite impossible for a group under constant surveillance to be that coordinated
ana

London, UK

#103218 Mar 22, 2013
Faith wrote:
<quoted text>I've actually said much worse, Ana. However, compared to mainstream islamic dogma, my casual observations are quite innocuous. The fact is, I am brimming with love for all living creatures. I just like starting trouble.....I can't help it.
Well well well,

Mainstream islamic dogma as you worded it doesn't exist only in the media which taints Islam to create a hateful forcefield against it. The real Islam isn't hateful at all, most Muslims are extremely conscientious, polite giving, humble people. Yes there are some groups - who actually really grate on me, who feel it is their duty to display scenes of angst and distasteful slanderous taunts to those who oppose their often barbarian ridiculous ideals, thankfully these people are confounded to smaller communities and are slowly but surely being weeded out, I can assure you what they represent and what is constantly branded across the media is not what "real Islam" represents at all!! And not what the majority of Muslims perceive as Islamic.

Trouble isn't a good thing to engage in it causes too many headaches

I think it's better you stick to raccoon watching

Here is a lovely link for you, it's from the bbc the wonderful David Attenborough

http://youtu.be/czgc56Vfz4w

People once perceived these beautiful peaceful creatures as beasts too

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