Family seeks stiffer unlicensed drive...

Family seeks stiffer unlicensed driver penalty

There are 21 comments on the Newsday story from Jun 19, 2007, titled Family seeks stiffer unlicensed driver penalty. In it, Newsday reports that:

On the last day of his life, Stephen Harrington went to work, picked up his girlfriend, and watched television with her at his family's Centereach home.

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Senseless Tragedy

Brooklyn, NY

#1 Jun 19, 2007
I remember this senseless tragedy every day when I pass the memorial to Stephen outside North Fork Bank. He went to Centereach with my two children. He dated my daughter's friend. My heart breaks for his family and my prayers go out to his family. They should be commended for bringing this injustice to the spotlight despite their pain. They are trying to save other's lives and for that they are very brave.
Dad in Mourning

Elizabeth, NJ

#2 Jun 19, 2007
I am Stephen's dad, and to Mr. Guillaume's attorney I ask this: If it is a privilege to drive a car in New York, and the license is validation that you have met the requirements to drive, then if your license was taken away and you drive, ARE YOU OR ARE YOU NOT BREAKING OR DISREGARDING THE LAW? The only way any of the lawyers or people in power will ever understand is when they lose a child or loved one to and unlicensed uninsured driver. I know Mr. Grunwald will not read this, but the question needs to be asked.
Senseless loss

Warwick, NY

#3 Jun 19, 2007
Add to this senseless tragedy all the illegal aliens who drive and the potential for more of this tragedy is astronomical. I work in the courts and I see all these illegals with no license or insurance get a slap on the wrist and a poor soul who has a license gets the book thrown at him. Its unfair and widespread. I mourn your loss.
Senseless Tragedy

Brooklyn, NY

#4 Jun 19, 2007
Unlicensed, uninsured killer Guillaume was using drugs at the time of accident. Marijuana found in car...so why only 140 hours of community service & $450.00 fine? This is SO UNFAIR.
senseless tragedy

Brooklyn, NY

#6 Jun 19, 2007
According to UNIFIED COURT SYSTEMS / "E-COURTS" /WEBCRIMS SITE

THE KILLER SKIPPED HIS SENTENCING ON 4/18/07, HAD A WARRANT ISSUED FOR HIS ARREST, HAD TO BE ARRESTED AND DRAGGED BACK INTO COURT ON 5/3/07, MAKE BAIL OF $1,000.00...AND HE'S GIVEN THIS SLAP ON THE WRIST.

MR. GRUNWALD, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN SLEPP AT NIGHT DEFENDING THESE LOWLIFE KILLERS. YOUR FIRM MAKES IT'S MONEY DEFENDING DWI/DUI DEFENDANTS...ALL THAT BLOOD MONEY YOU MAKE CANNOT PROTECT YOU OR YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS FROM THESE KILLERS.
senseless tragedy

Brooklyn, NY

#7 Jun 19, 2007
senseless tragedy

Brooklyn, NY

#8 Jun 19, 2007
Defendant GUILLAUME, HERBERT A

Appearance Information: Appearance
Part & Date Judge Calendar
Section Court

Type Docket
Detail
220, July 17, 2007 To Pay Fine No Type

D41, May 18, 2007 ALAMIA,S Pending U, Bail Continued No Type SENTENCE IMPOSED

May 3, 2007 U, Cash $1,000 (Cash) No Type BAIL PAID

D41, May 3, 2007 ALAMIA,S Pending BELL, Bail Continued No Type CASE CONTINUED (ADJOURNED), RETURNED ON WARRANT

D41S, April 24, 2007 ALAMIA,S For Sentencing GORMAN, No Type WARRANT ORDERED/SCOFFLAW

D41S, April 18, 2007 ALAMIA,S For Sentencing PANTINO, RoR Continued Sentencing CASE CONTINUED (ADJOURNED)

D41, March 26, 2007 ALAMIA,S Pending LEVAKIS, RoR Continued No Type PLED GUILTY,PRE-SENT INVESTIGA

D41, March 5, 2007 ALAMIA,S Pending HANSEN, RoR Continued No Type READY & PASSED-READY FOR TRIAL

D41, February 21, 2007 ALAMIA,S Pending GORMAN, RoR Continued Uniform Traffic Ticket CASE CONTINUED (ADJOURNED)

D41A, December 12, 2006 ALAMIA,S Pending PHILIE, Released on Recognizance Uniform Traffic Ticket CASE CONTINUED
Sad but true

Tarrytown, NY

#9 Jun 19, 2007
It appears if you don't own anything one does not need insurance.
Dad in mourning

Bronx, NY

#10 Jun 19, 2007
To senseless tragedy, I wish I knew who you were.....I have become very discouraged lately. No one in the media wants to cover the legislation, but today I see a couple of people that care, and that makes a difference.
To sad but true, yes you are right. Why do any of us bother with license renewal, insurance policies, and all the other legal things that we do. Very simply put, we are people that are responsible, and we are people that actually think of others. To prove my point look at the number of people that have responded to this issue.

Last week I came to this very forum and posted a topic "unlicensed drivers get away with murder". Not one person reponded, but I'll bet if I posted about Paris, or the Saprano's..... look out.
From a Coworker

Bronx, NY

#11 Jun 19, 2007
I was at Steves wake, and when I saw the sheer number of people there, I knew how important he was not only to me, but to so many as a friend and family member. I still get upset when I see pictures of Steve, and for so long after it happened I would still expect to see him walk in at four o'clock. Most of the time, when I think about what happened, I'm far too saddened over the loss to be so enfuriated at this shameful mockery of justice. Nothing can account for the weight and value of a life, particularly a life so dear to so many.
Senseless Tragedy

Baldwin, NY

#12 Jun 19, 2007
Dad in mourning wrote:
To senseless tragedy, I wish I knew who you were.....I have become very discouraged lately. No one in the media wants to cover the legislation, but today I see a couple of people that care, and that makes a difference.
To sad but true, yes you are right. Why do any of us bother with license renewal, insurance policies, and all the other legal things that we do. Very simply put, we are people that are responsible, and we are people that actually think of others. To prove my point look at the number of people that have responded to this issue.
Last week I came to this very forum and posted a topic "unlicensed drivers get away with murder". Not one person reponded, but I'll bet if I posted about Paris, or the Saprano's..... look out.
I am a parent who cares very much. I am a parent, who like you loves their children. I am OUTRAGED by this case. Please feel free to contact me at nobodyzphool@yahoo.com
NY Sucks

Bronx, NY

#13 Jun 19, 2007
From a Coworker wrote:
I was at Steves wake, and when I saw the sheer number of people there, I knew how important he was not only to me, but to so many as a friend and family member. I still get upset when I see pictures of Steve, and for so long after it happened I would still expect to see him walk in at four o'clock. Most of the time, when I think about what happened, I'm far too saddened over the loss to be so enfuriated at this shameful mockery of justice. Nothing can account for the weight and value of a life, particularly a life so dear to so many.
The sadness is still overwhelming and not a day goes by that I don't miss him. I can't believe it's been 8 months already. But you need to be infuriated about this because it is a mockery. The Steve I knew sure as hell would've been if it happened to any of us. That's the point Mr. H is trying to make. It could happen to any one of us and the person that does it gets away with it because there are no laws.

Mr. H, don't be disillusioned, you should be infuriated too. Despite everything you're going through, you're trying to change things so other people don't have to go through the same nightmare. You educated so many of us here about this and many of us did act on it. But you're right, look at this place. People are more interested in stupid meaningless bullshit and then they sit around whining and complaining about everything that's wrong instead of doing something to change it. I wish I could've afforded to go to college in another state, but when I graduate I'm out of NY. I can't live in a place where everybody walks around with their heads up their asses and therefore don't give a shit.

another victim

Randolph, NJ

#14 Jun 20, 2007
Dad in mourning-I am sorry for your loss.I too was involved in an MVA last year with an unlicensed driver who was speeding during rush hour. According to his insurance company, it was okay for him to be driving without a license. I tried to explain to him that since he had no license, his client should not have been on the road but he disagreed with me (the guy who hit us lives in NY but has his car insurance out of state). He was not injured and only got a ticket at the scene and that was all. My daughter has a permanent injury and she is only in her teens.
Dad in mourning

Bronx, NY

#15 Jun 20, 2007
From a coworker, and NY Sucks. I'm going to take a guess here. Coworker your first name starts with E, and NY Sucks your first name starts with P. Let me know if I'm right. In any case THANK YOU for remembering Stephen, and us. We may be needing help to get this job done.
Dad in mourning

Bronx, NY

#16 Jun 20, 2007
another victim wrote:
Dad in mourning-I am sorry for your loss.I too was involved in an MVA last year with an unlicensed driver who was speeding during rush hour. According to his insurance company, it was okay for him to be driving without a license. I tried to explain to him that since he had no license, his client should not have been on the road but he disagreed with me (the guy who hit us lives in NY but has his car insurance out of state). He was not injured and only got a ticket at the scene and that was all. My daughter has a permanent injury and she is only in her teens.
First let me say how sorry I am, for what your daughter, you, and the rest of your family are going through, and will continue to go through. In order for him to have insurance in another state I am assuming that his car is also registered in that same other state? You can not have a car registered in New York and insurance from another state. There have been numerous bills proposed in Albany in the past. For one reason or another both houses could never agree on a common bill. Presently there are now two bills Assembly A4033, and Senate S4885 same as A4033. All that is needed now is for both house to vote on them, pass them, and send them to the governor to be signed into law. I am however being led to believe that there maybe a problem getting enough YES votes in the Assembly. This will not be voted now until the next session. My wife and I when we are talking to someone in a position of authority and they say, "I can not imagine what you are going through and hope I never find out". We used to agree, but now we say "I'm sorry, but I hope you do, because maybe then something will be done to stop this." If there is anything that you may need help with, please do not hesitate to contact me. My e-mail is tj_harring@yahoo.com.
NY Sucks

Bronx, NY

#17 Jun 22, 2007
Dad in mourning wrote:
From a coworker, and NY Sucks. I'm going to take a guess here. Coworker your first name starts with E, and NY Sucks your first name starts with P. Let me know if I'm right. In any case THANK YOU for remembering Stephen, and us. We may be needing help to get this job done.
No I'm not "P," but I did know Steve from Angelo's. I was at the funeral home, but it was all pretty surreal and there were so many people there, so I don't know if you'd even remember me. Not only was Steve one of the greatest guys I've ever known, he was a riot. I don't go up there much anymore. Walking through the door and Steve not being there as usual is too abnormal. It's not the same place anymore. We had some great times and now it's too depressing. When I think about him, the memories always make me smile, and then there's a profound sadness that hits me because he's gone forever and I'll never see him, talk to him, or laugh with him again. And I think, who the hell's going to fix my guitar for me now? Then I get really pissed off about the unfairness of it all. No worries, he was the kind of person you can never forget, and I never will.

You're trying like hell to do something good here, and the lack of interest and response is sickening beyond words, but it's par for the course. I'm out of this cesspool in January, and this is just another example that goes to show why. But word gets around and if there's anything I can do to help in the meantime, you've got it.
Dad in mourning

Bronx, NY

#18 Jun 23, 2007
NY Sucks wrote:
<quoted text>
No I'm not "P," but I did know Steve from Angelo's. I was at the funeral home, but it was all pretty surreal and there were so many people there, so I don't know if you'd even remember me. Not only was Steve one of the greatest guys I've ever known, he was a riot. I don't go up there much anymore. Walking through the door and Steve not being there as usual is too abnormal. It's not the same place anymore. We had some great times and now it's too depressing. When I think about him, the memories always make me smile, and then there's a profound sadness that hits me because he's gone forever and I'll never see him, talk to him, or laugh with him again. And I think, who the hell's going to fix my guitar for me now? Then I get really pissed off about the unfairness of it all. No worries, he was the kind of person you can never forget, and I never will.
You're trying like hell to do something good here, and the lack of interest and response is sickening beyond words, but it's par for the course. I'm out of this cesspool in January, and this is just another example that goes to show why. But word gets around and if there's anything I can do to help in the meantime, you've got it.
Please e-mail me at tj_harring@yahoo.com. Use subject NY Sucks.
friend of herbert

Northport, NY

#19 Aug 19, 2008
listen i feel sorry for the friends and family of steve and i my condolences go out, but lets get facts straight, herbert was Not under tghe influence of drugs he did have possion of marijuana, no liscense and no insurance i cannot excuse but this accident was an act of god herbert is not a killer and is extremly remorseful for his actions but lets look at the facts the both were not doing anything wrong then harrington speeding in the rain with no seat belt lost control of his car and crashed into herbert, again theres no excuse for driving with no insurance and no licsense, but if steve aswell didnt break the law and have his seatbelt on things may have been different , but let me be the 1st say accidents happen and i woulnd be so quick to label him a killer it was an act of god and the reason for him not showing up to a hearing is extreme mental strees and deprssion as well as losing a spleen shorty there after herbert was incapible of being present, im not trying to be cold hearted but it hurts me to see my friend labeled as a killer wen it was an accident and obviously the judge saw that herbert has to carry around the burden of him bening part of another young mans death and i think that guilt weighing on him everydayis jus a bad as any prison sentence or fine u can give him, so y dont all u bloggers think of that before u label some body as a killer and maybe put ur self in the other guys shoes,xternal631@aol.com if ud like to discuss it further r.i.p. steve,
IGGY

Oklahoma City, OK

#20 Sep 12, 2008
Im in Oklahoma, my grandaughters car was hit by a woman driving with a suspended license. They aressted the woman and took her to jail. She posted bail and heres the good part, the woman who loaned her the car got off scott free and they told my grandaughter tough were not paying. Great laws we have in this country.
IGGY

Oklahoma City, OK

#21 Sep 12, 2008
To friend of herbert get a job JERK cold hearted CRAP he derserves to go to thr chair...........

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