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It is still not entirely clear what prompted the Mount Vernon Nazarene University campus to be placed under lockdown late Wednesday night.
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Columbus, OH

#121 Sep 18, 2010
Parents please talk to your kids about relationships when you see it starting up. Don't just send them out in this world with no backup plan in life. No man or woman is worth it
now-a-days.
Curious

AOL

#122 Sep 18, 2010
Charlotte wrote:
I did not know this young man so sad. I have heard that he was distraught about his girlfriend breaking up with him and she was being very immature as most girls at this age are Shame on her,she was apparently going out with others over break.Girls
can play around with these young mens emotions with no thoughts except for themselves!!! Very reliable source,him. He got a haircut by my friend who works at a local salon in mv just hours before. Girls don't play with others emotions!!!!Such a tragedy.
He thought he would not find anyone else.
What other forum? Can you give a web address
mvnumom2

Galion, OH

#123 Sep 18, 2010
I continue to be appalled by some of what I'm reading on here. The girlfriend????? Girlfriends and boyfriends break up all the time. This is NOT her fault. Why are you so determined to place blame on someone. She, of all people, is probably suffering in ways we can't possibly imagine. You don't know the whole story.
mvnumom2

Galion, OH

#124 Sep 18, 2010
Charlotte wrote:
I did not know this young man so sad. I have heard that he was distraught about his girlfriend breaking up with him and she was being very immature as most girls at this age are Shame on her,she was apparently going out with others over break.Girls
can play around with these young mens emotions with no thoughts except for themselves!!! Very reliable source,him. He got a haircut by my friend who works at a local salon in mv just hours before. Girls don't play with others emotions!!!!Such a tragedy.
He thought he would not find anyone else.
Shame on her? Shame on you! Can you begin to imagine what this young woman is going through right now? You have no idea and yet you point a finger.
nazkid

Reynoldsburg, OH

#125 Sep 18, 2010
I am sorry but you can not tell who a person is just because of their facebook. That doesn't show you their personality, their love, their care, he was a real person who loved everyone. I know, I am a friend. Yes his page is disturbing, but I knew whenever I was around him he could always make me smile. He is a great person, please I understand its my choice to read these, but if you don't know him you have no right to judge him for his actions and the "apparent reasons" he did them.
MVNU Senior

Columbus, OH

#126 Sep 18, 2010
Charlotte wrote:
I did not know this young man so sad. I have heard that he was distraught about his girlfriend breaking up with him and she was being very immature as most girls at this age are Shame on her,she was apparently going out with others over break.Girls
can play around with these young mens emotions with no thoughts except for themselves!!! Very reliable source,him. He got a haircut by my friend who works at a local salon in mv just hours before. Girls don't play with others emotions!!!!Such a tragedy.
He thought he would not find anyone else.
Excuse me! I happen to know his ex-girlfriend very well and she did NOT cheat on anyone else. Period. End of story. He may have thought this, but that was not the case.
Sharon

Lorain, OH

#127 Sep 18, 2010
disagree wrote:
<quoted text> i have to disagree with you, sounds like your making a threat, this person has the right to speak his mind whatever it is. i might not agree with what this person says but will defend to the death the right to say it, this is america,it seems that the beliefs of your churh must be to control someones thoughts and speech.
It was not a threat, but merely the truth. Was goes around comes around. You bring evil in this world you will get it back double. If you speak bad about people it will come back to haunt you. And I guess you assumed something because I do not belong to a church. I do not have a religion. And so what if it is a threat, you american's do it everyday. It's normal for most of you
Sharon

Lorain, OH

#128 Sep 18, 2010
two cents wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't claim to know Mike. I do feel like I got a sense of what he was about...to such an extent that it made me sick and I will never go to his page again. Anytime somebody commits an act as extreme as what Mike did, people look for answers. What I am saying is that if you look at Mike's Facebook, you will not come away from it saying, "Gee, he seemed perfectly normal. I see no answers there as to why this happened."
I would hope the family is not scouring the internet to find people arguing about the death of their son, but if they have looked at his Facebook, I have to think at least part of them agrees with what I am saying. Something was not right with him.
You can call me sick for researching this. That's fine. And what of the authorities and the university administration and journalists who are surely doing the same thing? Are they sick too? Or are only those in power allowed to search for truth? Maybe some people do not like to face this, but I am a person who wants to confront the difficult and disturbing things in life and try to understand them. That is how I deal with them. I find it much more comforting than sticking my head in the sand.
And, by the way, I could give you my Facebook but you would have to be my friend to be able to see anything and, even then, only a small percentage of my friends can see everything. And, yes, even that fact should tell you something about me.
So you are contradicting yourself because I would have to be a friend in person in order to become a friend on Facebook ?? I thought you said social networking is the way it works nowadays ?? hmmmm...
Saddened

Mentor, OH

#129 Sep 18, 2010
facebook wrote:
I must admit I wonder myself if this could of been stopped. I did not know Mike one on one ,but I did look at his facebook. I really think that right now we need to face some scary truths so that history does not repeat. I know right know that we want to protect Mike's honor and I am cool with that...I do not think ill of him ,because I have struggled with these thoughts. It has to be hard for those who did know him and read that outsiders saw all the signs that you did not pick up. It is in our nature to hope for nothing but the best and hope that non our friends would take their lives. It is always oh it was just a phase....for Mike it was death. You get snappy at those who say they saw signs ,because that means that you would have to admit that you did not see things that could of saved his life. I wonder if anyone ever sent him an e-mail to say hey Mike is everything ok? I've had a friend complete and another that had her somach pumped. I was so mad when people would say oh all those signs were there ,but us who were close did not see them. So I agree there were signs ,but in respect of those who knew him probably did not want to think he would do it. I can see both sides. For those who were close to him i am not trying to say that you were not good friends ,because I've been on this road before ,but I am just saying stop attacking those who do see the signs. I wish that this page was just in honor of Mike ,because othing we are going to say is going to bring him back. All i ask to everyone reading these is to really get to know your friends. If they are having an off day let them know you are there. This is so hard and sad.
Hind sight is always 20/20. Of course now we can see the signs, because they lead to his death. But there are many people who have depressing things on facebook and they never commit suicide and no one thinks twice about their depressing ramblings. Mike was great at hiding his feelings. And if his actions and mood was good in person, and no one had any ides of what he was going to do then then they wouldn't be alarmed. I guess it is just frustrating for people for people who have never met him to have "seen signs". Of course you would! You know the outcome!
two cents

Pataskala, OH

#130 Sep 18, 2010
Sharon wrote:
<quoted text>
So you are contradicting yourself because I would have to be a friend in person in order to become a friend on Facebook ?? I thought you said social networking is the way it works nowadays ?? hmmmm...
Sharon, you need to give it up. Not only are you abrasive and mean-spirited, you just can't write all that well. I'm not even sure what you are trying to say. You can feel free to rephrase that, but if your response to my four paragraphs is to wonder why you can't be my Facebook friend, I think we are done here.
concerned parent

Philadelphia, PA

#132 Sep 18, 2010
"Marc wrote: One less weak minded moron to worry about!"

I have one word for you Marc, IGNORANT!! I can't believe anyone would say something like that. You didn't no this young man or anything about him. I hope that you never reach a point in your life where you feel that there is no way out. Apparently, by this comment you have your own issues to deal with. You are the weak-minded moron and apparently one with no heart.
mom-mvnu

Toronto, OH

#133 Sep 19, 2010
Charlotte wrote:
I did not know this young man so sad. I have heard that he was distraught about his girlfriend breaking up with him and she was being very immature as most girls at this age are Shame on her,she was apparently going out with others over break.Girls
can play around with these young mens emotions with no thoughts except for themselves!!! Very reliable source,him. He got a haircut by my friend who works at a local salon in mv just hours before. Girls don't play with others emotions!!!!Such a tragedy.
He thought he would not find anyone else.
OK, so because your friend the beautician cut his hair...what this takes about 15 minutes you are an expert? Well let me tell you I knew Mike and I know the young girl and maybe Mike thought this young girl was seeing other people....but, she was not! She is a kind, polite, generous, compassionate young woman just as I said above about Mike. I love both of these young people more than I could ever say.

You should be ashamed of yourself! I know this young girls family and she read your post. This family has been working to help her through this since it occurred she is distraught and all she wanted was to take this year..her junior year to study and figure out what she really wanted to do with her life without any distractions. Bottom line there is not anyone to blame for this and yet everyone that knew Mike will find a reason to blame themselves and they don't need someone like you that has no facts making ignorant comments.
mvnumom2

Galion, OH

#134 Sep 19, 2010
mom-mvnu wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, so because your friend the beautician cut his hair...what this takes about 15 minutes you are an expert? Well let me tell you I knew Mike and I know the young girl and maybe Mike thought this young girl was seeing other people....but, she was not! She is a kind, polite, generous, compassionate young woman just as I said above about Mike. I love both of these young people more than I could ever say.
You should be ashamed of yourself! I know this young girls family and she read your post. This family has been working to help her through this since it occurred she is distraught and all she wanted was to take this year..her junior year to study and figure out what she really wanted to do with her life without any distractions. Bottom line there is not anyone to blame for this and yet everyone that knew Mike will find a reason to blame themselves and they don't need someone like you that has no facts making ignorant comments.
Thank you! If this young lady is reading this post: This is NOT your fault. I know you are hurting and I'm sure you feel somehow responsible. I'm praying for you to allow God's peace to fill your heart. Noone kills themself because a girlfriend/boyfriend breaks up with them. There has to be something else going on. You could have stayed with him and it is very likely that at some point he still would have come to this. He was obviously suffering from some sort of depression or other illness. Sometimes we see the signs and intervene, and sadly, sometimes we don't. Some people are very good at covering them up. Please do not allow the comments from people who are obviously don't know any better to take root in your mind. Please try to rest in God's peace. The grief of losing someone you cared about is enough. You don't need to carry this burden as well.
what

Toronto, OH

#135 Sep 19, 2010
Charlotte wrote:
I did not know this young man so sad. I have heard that he was distraught about his girlfriend breaking up with him and she was being very immature as most girls at this age are Shame on her,she was apparently going out with others over break.Girls
can play around with these young mens emotions with no thoughts except for themselves!!! Very reliable source,him. He got a haircut by my friend who works at a local salon in mv just hours before. Girls don't play with others emotions!!!!Such a tragedy.
He thought he would not find anyone else.
who do you think you are getting involved maake you feel special go to hell
concerned taxpayer

Verona, PA

#136 Sep 19, 2010
Former MVNU Student wrote:
The school officials did not brief the students on anything- they called a meeting to basically tell them there was a "situation" and that they had been put on "lock down" to prevent any one from getting hurt- never said what for. The rumors where either a girlfriend/boyfriend had a fight and police were called, there was a drug dealer around campus, or as we now know someone committed suicide with a gun. The school staff did nothing to explain or clarify the reason for the lock down- as is typical of them- leave the students in the dark...wouldn't want the school to get bad press.
As the father of a former student, first, thoughts and prayers to the parents and family. There is no more tragic and painful loss. to those of you who "judge" the school for the lack of info, if you READ the statment by the school, one of the reasons for the lack of specific info was that the family had not been notified yet. It would have been more tragic to release that info and second hand info get out to the family. As stated, the situation at time of lockdown was still developing in a short period of time. It is sensible to make sure family is notified. Also, to the comments by another that it "is stupid" to lock down due to a suicide again if you follow the story, a gun was involved and they were not sure where he was at. People would ocmpalin if not locked down! Please use osme common sense, and focus on the hurting family and campus.
for the love of

Sunbury, OH

#137 Sep 19, 2010
Charlotte wrote:
I did not know this young man so sad. I have heard that he was distraught about his girlfriend breaking up with him and she was being very immature as most girls at this age are Shame on her,she was apparently going out with others over break.Girls
can play around with these young mens emotions with no thoughts except for themselves!!! Very reliable source,him. He got a haircut by my friend who works at a local salon in mv just hours before. Girls don't play with others emotions!!!!Such a tragedy.
He thought he would not find anyone else.
Ok wow, I can not believe someone wrote this, I told two coworkers because I was very upset, which I can see I should have kept my mouth shut...and what I said to them should have been in confidence. For the record and from the horses mouth, I do not in any way blame his girlfriend I feel just awful for her and his entire family. This is such a hard thing to imagine happening to such a sweet kid. Mike was a nice polite funny guy and it was always such a pleasure to see him. We talked often when he would come in, and he was a bright spot in my day when he would. He confided in me and I should have never repeated what he said to anyone, that is my mistake. I was only trying to understand. Frankly I feel a horrible, I feel like I might have, could have said something to help, but the fact is when I saw him, we talked quite a bit and I saw no signs that he would ever EVER do anything like this, and I could never imagine him hurting anyone else. His girlfriend is a sweet and very nice girl as well and there is no one at blame here. The fact is when you are young sometimes things seem like the end of the world to you, we can't imagine moving past them, but most of us do. Tragically he saw no other way, and for that I am truly so sorry. I will miss him, as will so many others. There are so many mean comments on here and I can only shake my head. This situation is tragic. Gossip and pettiness aside the world lost a great guy, and I pray for his family and friends. It is no ones fault, he made a desperate choice and I only hope he has found peace. much love to all who are suffering.
for the love of

Sunbury, OH

#138 Sep 19, 2010
Also I don't know who is spreading these hurtful comments but please, don't regurgitate this venom anywhere else, would love to know who you are so when I come to work I could have some choice words with you. This is very Very inappropriate and well... just unforgivable. You do not Blame something like this on anyone! That poor girl is going through enough without some gutless person leaving mean comments on sites. I am so sorry I even said anything. I will not ever make that mistake again.
two cents

Pataskala, OH

#140 Sep 22, 2010
for the love of wrote:
Also I don't know who is spreading these hurtful comments but please, don't regurgitate this venom anywhere else, would love to know who you are so when I come to work I could have some choice words with you. This is very Very inappropriate and well... just unforgivable. You do not Blame something like this on anyone! That poor girl is going through enough without some gutless person leaving mean comments on sites. I am so sorry I even said anything. I will not ever make that mistake again.
Wait...are you kidding me? You're getting self-righteous about people spreading a rumor...THAT YOU STARTED??? REALLY??

I'm glad you learned your lesson and won't do this come the next student suicide. For god sake. Grow up.
anonymous person

Mansfield, OH

#141 Sep 22, 2010
"this guy" is my brother... and you have no idea what you are talking about
upside

AOL

#142 Sep 22, 2010
for the love of wrote:
Also I don't know who is spreading these hurtful comments but please, don't regurgitate this venom anywhere else, would love to know who you are so when I come to work I could have some choice words with you. This is very Very inappropriate and well... just unforgivable. You do not Blame something like this on anyone! That poor girl is going through enough without some gutless person leaving mean comments on sites. I am so sorry I even said anything. I will not ever make that mistake again.
Ok, being a hairdresser myself, i can honestly say...did you REALLY tell coworkers in a salon and expect it not to be spread? REALLY? but i have to give you credit for stepping up and saying something.

prayers for all of mike's family and friends. i can't even imagine what you all must be going through...

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