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taxes
#61 Jun 25, 2013
I want to pay more taxes.I would pay 1,000 more a year if it means hitting the slumlords with higher property taxes and take the profit out of their game.

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#62 Jun 25, 2013
taxes wrote:
I want to pay more taxes.I would pay 1,000 more a year if it means hitting the slumlords with higher property taxes and take the profit out of their game.
No you don't! All you want to do is confuse the public into thinking he bond will raise taxes. Let's just use 5,000 houses at \$1,000 more ( which is ridiculous), would mean an increase of \$5,000,000.

Let's do simple math. A train is traveling west with a \$1,000,000 bond at 4% per year for 15 years. The total cost of the bond is \$1,333,333 which if paid off ratably over 15 years would be \$88,888. Now there are 5,371 cars on the train, so each car would cost \$16.55 per year. And since there are vacant lots, the actual potential tax increase could be even less. But sadly, some people think the cost of the bond will be too much for average Joe MBV resident.

I would bet they could carry the whole bond with no tax increase. All that is needed is \$7,500 a month in either more revenue, cut expenses, or a combination of both.

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#63 Jun 25, 2013
taxes wrote:
I want to pay more taxes.I would pay 1,000 more a year if it means hitting the slumlords with higher property taxes and take the profit out of their game.
If it will benefit the Village in the long run, I don't mind some incremental tax increase. No one likes taxes, but if it will help our quality of life, I'm for it. We've lived with too much garbage for way too long.

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#64 Jun 25, 2013
<quoted text>No you don't! All you want to do is confuse the public into thinking he bond will raise taxes. Let's just use 5,000 houses at \$1,000 more ( which is ridiculous), would mean an increase of \$5,000,000.
Let's do simple math. A train is traveling west with a \$1,000,000 bond at 4% per year for 15 years. The total cost of the bond is \$1,333,333 which if paid off ratably over 15 years would be \$88,888. Now there are 5,371 cars on the train, so each car would cost \$16.55 per year. And since there are vacant lots, the actual potential tax increase could be even less. But sadly, some people think the cost of the bond will be too much for average Joe MBV resident.
I would bet they could carry the whole bond with no tax increase. All that is needed is \$7,500 a month in either more revenue, cut expenses, or a combination of both.
thank you for laying that out so well. i think the "taxes" poster was just trying to say he wants this area to improve and is willing to pay the price to get there.
MB Lover
#65 Jun 25, 2013
I, too, am willing to pay more in taxes if the Village is improved and the quality of life issues get better. Remember though that there are several bonds that have been done so don't think there is only one.

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think before you lie
#66 Jun 25, 2013
and if the MBVEC and vision team came out at the very begining and said we need to raise taxes slightly to pay for the village and the services that we need, less people would hate the village. The lies of "tax neutral" and "volunteer village" is what people are mad at. The village movement was started on lies. It was voted in on lies and it continues to operate on lies.
Tell the truth and more people would be willing to work with the village. Keep the crap up and continue to hire family and friends that are obviously bad for the moral of the village and it will always be like this. They brought it on themselves.

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#67 Jun 25, 2013
think before you lie wrote:
and if the MBVEC and vision team came out at the very begining and said we need to raise taxes slightly to pay for the village and the services that we need, less people would hate the village. The lies of "tax neutral" and "volunteer village" is what people are mad at. The village movement was started on lies. It was voted in on lies and it continues to operate on lies.
Tell the truth and more people would be willing to work with the village. Keep the crap up and continue to hire family and friends that are obviously bad for the moral of the village and it will always be like this. They brought it on themselves.
If you are not part of the solution, you are the problem. MBVEC had good intentions, and pretty damn good excecution. But, they made mistakes and in three years have lowered the taxes on every resident by over \$100 per year. You don't want the village to succeed because you have a vendetta against it.

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#68 Jun 25, 2013
<quoted text>If you are not part of the solution, you are the problem. MBVEC had good intentions, and pretty damn good excecution. But, they made mistakes and in three years have lowered the taxes on every resident by over \$100 per year. You don't want the village to succeed because you have a vendetta against it.
I signed Janes petition. It's time for us to show those guys that we don't want this town to improve. We are happy with the status quo. I think I might actually help them. How hard is it to get 100 signers.

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wf parent
#69 Jun 25, 2013
OMG wrote:
Why don't you go to the zoning meeting tomorrow and Village meetings and workshops and put on your listening ears. Maybe you could even ask a question or 2 and find out what is happening. Instead of listening to Maura and her Merry Band of Thieves? If my Village taxes go up 4% that would be about \$20 which comes out to approx. 1.65 a month . Think I like that a whole better then school taxes going up over \$200.
the amount is not the point. the point is that we were promised that these things (bond issues) would be decided by referendum.

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#70 Jun 25, 2013
wf parent wrote:
<quoted text>the amount is not the point. the point is that we were promised that these things (bond issues) would be decided by referendum.
Doesn't a referendum cost money? I think we should have a referendum on whether or not to have a referendum.

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#71 Jun 25, 2013
MB Lover wrote:
I, too, am willing to pay more in taxes if the Village is improved and the quality of life issues get better. Remember though that there are several bonds that have been done so don't think there is only one.
The Village has only taken out 1 (one) bond when they were first took over. And it was paid off within months. Don't believe me go to a meeting and ask.

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#72 Jun 25, 2013
think before you lie wrote:
and if the MBVEC and vision team came out at the very begining and said we need to raise taxes slightly to pay for the village and the services that we need, less people would hate the village. The lies of "tax neutral" and "volunteer village" is what people are mad at. The village movement was started on lies. It was voted in on lies and it continues to operate on lies.
Tell the truth and more people would be willing to work with the village. Keep the crap up and continue to hire family and friends that are obviously bad for the moral of the village and it will always be like this. They brought it on themselves.
Stop listening to Maura and her Merry Band of Thieves and you might learn the truth.

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wf parent
#73 Jun 25, 2013
<quoted text>Doesn't a referendum cost money? I think we should have a referendum on whether or not to have a referendum.
it sure doesn't cost a million dollars

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#74 Jun 25, 2013
OMG wrote:
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Stop listening to Maura and her Merry Band of Thieves and you might learn the truth.
stop listening to gary and his band of thugs and you would see the truth

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u r kidding
#75 Jun 25, 2013
Petition wrote:
<quoted text>I signed Janes petition. It's time for us to show those guys that we don't want this town to improve. We are happy with the status quo. I think I might actually help them. How hard is it to get 100 signers.
"we don't want this town to improve. We are happy with the status quo."

you must be a slumlord. no one in their right mind would want their town to NOT improve unless they were capitalizing on the destruction or suppression of their town. while you worry only about your pocketbook, your selfishness costs others their quality of life. no respect for you, i'll say.

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wf parent
#76 Jun 26, 2013
<quoted text>No you don't! All you want to do is confuse the public into thinking he bond will raise taxes. Let's just use 5,000 houses at \$1,000 more ( which is ridiculous), would mean an increase of \$5,000,000.
Let's do simple math. A train is traveling west with a \$1,000,000 bond at 4% per year for 15 years. The total cost of the bond is \$1,333,333 which if paid off ratably over 15 years would be \$88,888. Now there are 5,371 cars on the train, so each car would cost \$16.55 per year. And since there are vacant lots, the actual potential tax increase could be even less. But sadly, some people think the cost of the bond will be too much for average Joe MBV resident.
I would bet they could carry the whole bond with no tax increase. All that is needed is \$7,500 a month in either more revenue, cut expenses, or a combination of both.
first of all the bond is not set at 4%. that is the minimum. second of all, the only place to get more revenue is from the residents. we have virtually no commercial base. any additional money would have to be fines and/or fees. thirdly, there is not enough room in the new building to negate having the other building. the costs to run the new building will be significantly higher, since the building is larger. this will be in addition to the building that they are already using and will continue to use for the highway. we will need security for the new court building since it is not within the firehouse. the rate of 16.00 per person does not include any of these new expenses. we have gone from being a "limited service village" to a spend spend spend village. if you think that this will keep our taxes low, you are insane. sooner or later these purchases which were not allowed for in the budget will have to be paid for and trickle down to the residents.

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wf parent
#77 Jun 26, 2013
u r kidding wrote:
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"we don't want this town to improve. We are happy with the status quo."
you must be a slumlord. no one in their right mind would want their town to NOT improve unless they were capitalizing on the destruction or suppression of their town. while you worry only about your pocketbook, your selfishness costs others their quality of life. no respect for you, i'll say.
i believe that the status quo referred to is the village hall building; not the village.

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what petition
#78 Jun 26, 2013
Petition wrote:
<quoted text>I signed Janes petition. It's time for us to show those guys that we don't want this town to improve. We are happy with the status quo. I think I might actually help them. How hard is it to get 100 signers.
What is Jane's petition?

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#79 Jun 26, 2013
Who is Jane?

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#80 Jun 26, 2013
wf parent wrote:
<quoted text>i believe that the status quo referred to is the village hall building; not the village.
thou speaketh with forked tongue again.

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