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Ok. If you don't like something about the village, then come to the meetings and push for change.

As far as the mbpoa, they have their own agenda. Whether it's pure hate of the village, greed for a very few, or a feeling of rightful ownership of the properties, which is totally wrong and totally against the deed's intent and covenants.

Some of them just don't like the increased oversight of the village and own multiple homes, and in some cases with multiple violations.

So dismiss that group completely.

Now, what we have left is a large majority of the community that is mostly in favor of the village.

This is for certain. There is no going back. We will never have what we did before and frankly under the town and with the mbpoa as the lead political entity in Mastic Beach, this community went to sh#t over the last 20 years.

Let's work out the bugs, let the court decide the property lawsuit and go on as a village.

That's it! There's no going back! We can make it work!
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no way=screw ball Yo!
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no way wrote:
Ok. If you don't like something about the village, then come to the meetings and push for change.
As far as the mbpoa, they have their own agenda. Whether it's pure hate of the village, greed for a very few, or a feeling of rightful ownership of the properties, which is totally wrong and totally against the deed's intent and covenants.
Some of them just don't like the increased oversight of the village and own multiple homes, and in some cases with multiple violations.
So dismiss that group completely.
Now, what we have left is a large majority of the community that is mostly in favor of the village.
This is for certain. There is no going back. We will never have what we did before and frankly under the town and with the mbpoa as the lead political entity in Mastic Beach, this community went to sh#t over the last 20 years.
Let's work out the bugs, let the court decide the property lawsuit and go on as a village.
That's it! There's no going back! We can make it work!
Thank you for the first intelligent post I have seen on topix in a very long time.
Now we can all sit back and watch the haters (AKA MBPOA) turn this thread into an attack on the people working every day for a better quality of life for all of us (even them).
My home was destroyed by Sandy and I don't know what I would have done without the help of the Village board and the building department. They have been there for me with resources, valuable information, constant updates on what to do next and how to go about applying for help from the many different agencies, building permits and inspections that have helped me rebuild. I will always be grateful for their help and will vote for each and every one of them when they come up for reelection.
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thanks wrote:
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Thank you for the first intelligent post I have seen on topix in a very long time.
Now we can all sit back and watch the haters (AKA MBPOA) turn this thread into an attack on the people working every day for a better quality of life for all of us (even them).
My home was destroyed by Sandy and I don't know what I would have done without the help of the Village board and the building department. They have been there for me with resources, valuable information, constant updates on what to do next and how to go about applying for help from the many different agencies, building permits and inspections that have helped me rebuild. I will always be grateful for their help and will vote for each and every one of them when they come up for reelection.
That's what I don't understand. The quality of life for all will improve, yet they keep wanting to fight. It's bizarre. Good post!
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no way wrote:
Ok. If you don't like something about the village, then come to the meetings and push for change.
As far as the mbpoa, they have their own agenda. Whether it's pure hate of the village, greed for a very few, or a feeling of rightful ownership of the properties, which is totally wrong and totally against the deed's intent and covenants.
Some of them just don't like the increased oversight of the village and own multiple homes, and in some cases with multiple violations.
So dismiss that group completely.
Now, what we have left is a large majority of the community that is mostly in favor of the village.
This is for certain. There is no going back. We will never have what we did before and frankly under the town and with the mbpoa as the lead political entity in Mastic Beach, this community went to sh#t over the last 20 years.
Let's work out the bugs, let the court decide the property lawsuit and go on as a village.
That's it! There's no going back! We can make it work!
You couldn't have said it better. I commend you on your thougtful words on the subject. We need more people like you in the village.
Clean up this mess

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no way wrote:
Ok. If you don't like something about the village, then come to the meetings and push for change.
As far as the mbpoa, they have their own agenda. Whether it's pure hate of the village, greed for a very few, or a feeling of rightful ownership of the properties, which is totally wrong and totally against the deed's intent and covenants.
Some of them just don't like the increased oversight of the village and own multiple homes, and in some cases with multiple violations.
So dismiss that group completely.
Now, what we have left is a large majority of the community that is mostly in favor of the village.
This is for certain. There is no going back. We will never have what we did before and frankly under the town and with the mbpoa as the lead political entity in Mastic Beach, this community went to sh#t over the last 20 years.
Let's work out the bugs, let the court decide the property lawsuit and go on as a village.
That's it! There's no going back! We can make it work!
great. Work on making MBV better. Leave the MBPOA alon and stop suing them. Why is the only civic that you go after the MBPOA? Is it because the Dept. Mayor wants what's they look after? I thought this village wasn't about the marinas? If you care about the village, fine, work to improve the village. Leave the MBPOA alone. It looks like all you want to do is harass them.
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<quoted text>great. Work on making MBV better. Leave the MBPOA alon and stop suing them. Why is the only civic that you go after the MBPOA? Is it because the Dept. Mayor wants what's they look after? I thought this village wasn't about the marinas? If you care about the village, fine, work to improve the village. Leave the MBPOA alone. It looks like all you want to do is harass them.
Maybe if they stop breaking the law the village would leave them alone
stop the insanity

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i am glad you are happy with the way things are. it is you who are the hater, apparently, because you started a thread specifically to hate a group of people. maybe if nobody else answers your nasty thread, you will stop.

please do not contradict this person, it will only make you nuts.;
Wake up

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You people on here got to be kidding me. You can tell the education level of people on here by their posting views. I have nothing to do or no connections with the mbpoa. I also want to state that I am not against having a village until this reckless group of no nothings are running our finances and hamlet down the tubes. Lets start with Gary. He is laughing at you all whether you are for or against him. All he cares about is how the village is going to benefit him and his family. This is a domino effect as the mayor is just as guilty for letting this occur. I am not against his family getting work off the village. It is the no bid contracts that are making it lean towards criminal. It is a domino effect that puts them all in trouble. This filters down to the mayor mostly as he is the chief down to the trustees for keeping quite. The meeting minutes. Look at he meeting minutes and note that there was none posted from 10/24 to 1/8/13. They will not post anything at that time because that was a cover up from sandy storm. They do not want anyone to have records to go by as it will incriminate them..There are records but there hidden somewhere. Since 4/3/13 there was also none posted .Something being hidden again. I have a text book filled with accusations that I want an investigation on them and I am now dealing with 3 government agencies that are starting to get involved. This week I have more going in now including the lawyer as a big part of my complaints. You people were sitting around either doing nothing about it or praising a totally incompetent organization representing the people of Mastic beach. Myself I been putting my time in and will be getting the job done on them soon. If all my accusations are found true I will be at the lawyers patchogue meetings passing the word around on his reputation. I have so much on them that it will take me days to post it here. I am also getting the governor involved soon. The lies,deceit and cover ups are and have been overwhelming me. I had just about enough of it. Remember this was suppose to be our village not theirs. We were all suppose to help make the decisions to progress our community.They are treating us like we are in a coma unable to function and are making all our decisions.What makes them believe they can make better judgement decisions than us? Myself I want a village that respects my interests.I never gave them power of attorney over my life or home.Get with it everyone and accept that this institution has been labeled failure.
Brady

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Sounds like you are unhappy.
whoa there tiger

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Wake up wrote:
You people on here got to be kidding me. You can tell the education level of people on here by their posting views. I have nothing to do or no connections with the mbpoa. I also want to state that I am not against having a village until this reckless group of no nothings are running our finances and hamlet down the tubes. Lets start with Gary. He is laughing at you all whether you are for or against him. All he cares about is how the village is going to benefit him and his family. This is a domino effect as the mayor is just as guilty for letting this occur. I am not against his family getting work off the village. It is the no bid contracts that are making it lean towards criminal. It is a domino effect that puts them all in trouble. This filters down to the mayor mostly as he is the chief down to the trustees for keeping quite. The meeting minutes. Look at he meeting minutes and note that there was none posted from 10/24 to 1/8/13. They will not post anything at that time because that was a cover up from sandy storm. They do not want anyone to have records to go by as it will incriminate them..There are records but there hidden somewhere. Since 4/3/13 there was also none posted .Something being hidden again. I have a text book filled with accusations that I want an investigation on them and I am now dealing with 3 government agencies that are starting to get involved. This week I have more going in now including the lawyer as a big part of my complaints. You people were sitting around either doing nothing about it or praising a totally incompetent organization representing the people of Mastic beach. Myself I been putting my time in and will be getting the job done on them soon. If all my accusations are found true I will be at the lawyers patchogue meetings passing the word around on his reputation. I have so much on them that it will take me days to post it here. I am also getting the governor involved soon. The lies,deceit and cover ups are and have been overwhelming me. I had just about enough of it. Remember this was suppose to be our village not theirs. We were all suppose to help make the decisions to progress our community.They are treating us like we are in a coma unable to function and are making all our decisions.What makes them believe they can make better judgement decisions than us? Myself I want a village that respects my interests.I never gave them power of attorney over my life or home.Get with it everyone and accept that this institution has been labeled failure.
Your poor writing skills tell me your education level. I find your statements arrogant and condescending. We were not "suppose(d) to help make the decisions to progress our community." That is what elected public officials are for. Do you chase down President Obama for the things you don't like that he's doing? How about Romaine or Bellone? Sounds like you're angry that you're not invited to the table. Run for a position on the Board if you want to try to take control of the table. The Board makes decisions with the community "as a whole" in mind, which might not serve your personal interests, especially if your opinion is in the minority. Maybe people don't agree with your opinion or tactics. Could you accept that? If you enjoy digging up dirt on people, go ahead. Malevolent behavior, that is. It says much about you. It will be interesting to see if your accusations prove fruitful. I can tell by your methods that I would certainly not want you representing me.

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Wake up wrote:
You people on here got to be kidding me. You can tell the education level of people on here by their posting views. I have nothing to do or no connections with the mbpoa. I also want to state that I am not against having a village until this reckless group of no nothings are running our finances and hamlet down the tubes. Lets start with Gary. He is laughing at you all whether you are for or against him. All he cares about is how the village is going to benefit him and his family. This is a domino effect as the mayor is just as guilty for letting this occur. I am not against his family getting work off the village. It is the no bid contracts that are making it lean towards criminal. It is a domino effect that puts them all in trouble. This filters down to the mayor mostly as he is the chief down to the trustees for keeping quite. The meeting minutes. Look at he meeting minutes and note that there was none posted from 10/24 to 1/8/13. They will not post anything at that time because that was a cover up from sandy storm. They do not want anyone to have records to go by as it will incriminate them..There are records but there hidden somewhere. Since 4/3/13 there was also none posted .Something being hidden again. I have a text book filled with accusations that I want an investigation on them and I am now dealing with 3 government agencies that are starting to get involved. This week I have more going in now including the lawyer as a big part of my complaints. You people were sitting around either doing nothing about it or praising a totally incompetent organization representing the people of Mastic beach. Myself I been putting my time in and will be getting the job done on them soon. If all my accusations are found true I will be at the lawyers patchogue meetings passing the word around on his reputation. I have so much on them that it will take me days to post it here. I am also getting the governor involved soon. The lies,deceit and cover ups are and have been overwhelming me. I had just about enough of it. Remember this was suppose to be our village not theirs. We were all suppose to help make the decisions to progress our community.They are treating us like we are in a coma unable to function and are making all our decisions.What makes them believe they can make better judgement decisions than us? Myself I want a village that respects my interests.I never gave them power of attorney over my life or home.Get with it everyone and accept that this institution has been labeled failure.
good luck on your mission.
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whoa there tiger wrote:
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Your poor writing skills tell me your education level. I find your statements arrogant and condescending. We were not "suppose(d) to help make the decisions to progress our community." That is what elected public officials are for. Do you chase down President Obama for the things you don't like that he's doing? How about Romaine or Bellone? Sounds like you're angry that you're not invited to the table. Run for a position on the Board if you want to try to take control of the table. The Board makes decisions with the community "as a whole" in mind, which might not serve your personal interests, especially if your opinion is in the minority. Maybe people don't agree with your opinion or tactics. Could you accept that? If you enjoy digging up dirt on people, go ahead. Malevolent behavior, that is. It says much about you. It will be interesting to see if your accusations prove fruitful. I can tell by your methods that I would certainly not want you representing me.
but I thought it was " for the people by the people". Isn't that what all the vision propaganda said was going to happen?
We would be involved with OUR government?
Oh well. Next government.
Great Job

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1) There is no illegal activity and no one, especialy the deputy mayor, is benefiting from any work being done in the village.

2) Noone is hiding anything. Unfortunately, the village website has not been hosted as well as it could have been and the problem is being addressed. The minutes are available for anyone who wants them.

3) The village IS NOT picking on any civic. However, go ask the mbpoa why they are refusing to abide by the village's codes and laws. Ask them why they just moved their shed in marina 5 last weekend without permits or plans, and knowing it was illegal to do it.

4) The Mayor and the entire village board are working tirelessly to make this community better. I agree with the other poster. The main players who ran this hamlet for decades were the town and the mbpoa. This place took a nose dive under their care.

The only chance this place has to survive and prosper is the village. They have demolished blighted homes and have brought more absentee landlords into compliance than you can count.

Our problems happened over the last 20 to 30 years, and even though we are making progress, we have a long way to go.

If not for the village, this community would be looking at 10 times more blight and delapidated conditions after the destruction Sandy caused.

Be thankful we have a village now. Without it we would be in a world of poop.

Thanks to the Village Board and the entire village government.
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Great Job wrote:
1) There is no illegal activity and no one, especialy the deputy mayor, is benefiting from any work being done in the village.
2) Noone is hiding anything. Unfortunately, the village website has not been hosted as well as it could have been and the problem is being addressed. The minutes are available for anyone who wants them.
3) The village IS NOT picking on any civic. However, go ask the mbpoa why they are refusing to abide by the village's codes and laws. Ask them why they just moved their shed in marina 5 last weekend without permits or plans, and knowing it was illegal to do it.
4) The Mayor and the entire village board are working tirelessly to make this community better. I agree with the other poster. The main players who ran this hamlet for decades were the town and the mbpoa. This place took a nose dive under their care.
The only chance this place has to survive and prosper is the village. They have demolished blighted homes and have brought more absentee landlords into compliance than you can count.
Our problems happened over the last 20 to 30 years, and even though we are making progress, we have a long way to go.
If not for the village, this community would be looking at 10 times more blight and delapidated conditions after the destruction Sandy caused.
Be thankful we have a village now. Without it we would be in a world of poop.
Thanks to the Village Board and the entire village government.
oh,ok. I guess ou must be telling the truth. We all know how much the ill age and the the vision team tells the truth. Thanks for clearing all that up.
whoa there tiger

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<quoted text>but I thought it was " for the people by the people". Isn't that what all the vision propaganda said was going to happen?
We would be involved with OUR government?
Oh well. Next government.
The person who promoted that idea is no longer on the Board. It was not reality. You can't run a Village like a civic group. Today is reality. Not the past, or what happened 3 years ago. Work with what is current. I don't understand why people can't understand that. In twenty years are people still going to be asking, "but you promised us this, or that, 23 years ago ..." How far back can we keeping going? It's ridiculous already. TODAY is reality. And you can bring your concerns to the Board. We've already changed mayors and a couple of Trustees. So they're not the same either. It is the "next government" already.
GREAT JOB

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Great Job wrote:
1) There is no illegal activity and no one, especialy the deputy mayor, is benefiting from any work being done in the village.
2) Noone is hiding anything. Unfortunately, the village website has not been hosted as well as it could have been and the problem is being addressed. The minutes are available for anyone who wants them.
3) The village IS NOT picking on any civic. However, go ask the mbpoa why they are refusing to abide by the village's codes and laws. Ask them why they just moved their shed in marina 5 last weekend without permits or plans, and knowing it was illegal to do it.
4) The Mayor and the entire village board are working tirelessly to make this community better. I agree with the other poster. The main players who ran this hamlet for decades were the town and the mbpoa. This place took a nose dive under their care.
The only chance this place has to survive and prosper is the village. They have demolished blighted homes and have brought more absentee landlords into compliance than you can count.
Our problems happened over the last 20 to 30 years, and even though we are making progress, we have a long way to go.
If not for the village, this community would be looking at 10 times more blight and delapidated conditions after the destruction Sandy caused.
Be thankful we have a village now. Without it we would be in a world of poop.
Thanks to the Village Board and the entire village government.
They are doing a GREAT JOB. Many thanks for all their hard work and for this informative post.
Clean up this mess

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whoa there tiger wrote:
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The person who promoted that idea is no longer on the Board. It was not reality. You can't run a Village like a civic group. Today is reality. Not the past, or what happened 3 years ago. Work with what is current. I don't understand why people can't understand that. In twenty years are people still going to be asking, "but you promised us this, or that, 23 years ago ..." How far back can we keeping going? It's ridiculous already. TODAY is reality. And you can bring your concerns to the Board. We've already changed mayors and a couple of Trustees. So they're not the same either. It is the "next government" already.
then face the truth. You lied to get a village! Period!

We all know it. The 500,000 budget, the thousands of volunteers, the ability to get rid of sec8 and sex offenders, all LIES!
Just face it already and save face.
By saying it will cost this much now, that person who promised you this is now gone is all a pathetic excuse for your lies! We know the village was to get the marinas. Thanks for your lies to get it. See, you won't be in charge forever. You all will get voted out when the rest of your supporters are as sick of the lies as the rest of us.
Do yourself a favor... Clean up this mess and save face. Because in 20 years, we will know who lied and who didn't. And it doesn't look good for the "vision".who was, and still is in charge. Or didn't you know that?
Clean up this mess

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whoa there tiger wrote:
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The person who promoted that idea is no longer on the Board. It was not reality. You can't run a Village like a civic group. Today is reality. Not the past, or what happened 3 years ago. Work with what is current. I don't understand why people can't understand that. In twenty years are people still going to be asking, "but you promised us this, or that, 23 years ago ..." How far back can we keeping going? It's ridiculous already. TODAY is reality. And you can bring your concerns to the Board. We've already changed mayors and a couple of Trustees. So they're not the same either. It is the "next government" already.
so our government ISN'T "for the people"? Good to know!
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<quoted text>then face the truth. You lied to get a village! Period!
We all know it. The 500,000 budget, the thousands of volunteers, the ability to get rid of sec8 and sex offenders, all LIES!
Just face it already and save face.
By saying it will cost this much now, that person who promised you this is now gone is all a pathetic excuse for your lies! We know the village was to get the marinas. Thanks for your lies to get it. See, you won't be in charge forever. You all will get voted out when the rest of your supporters are as sick of the lies as the rest of us.
Do yourself a favor... Clean up this mess and save face. Because in 20 years, we will know who lied and who didn't. And it doesn't look good for the "vision".who was, and still is in charge. Or didn't you know that?
I didn't lie to you. I voted for a Village because I knew it was the best thing for Mastic Beach. My vote had nothing to do with your spew above. Don't blame me for your stupidity. For the marinas? You're nuts. I'm not in charge of anything. So go ahead, vote me out from nothing.

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