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Now What

Brooklyn, NY

#1 Aug 21, 2010
Has anyone heard of future plans for the golf course? New owner/management?
I would hate to the last chunk of open space be developed. Ideally, I would love to see it as a future Suffolk County Park...

Since: May 08

Smith Point

#2 Aug 21, 2010
Now What wrote:
Has anyone heard of future plans for the golf course? New owner/management?
I would hate to the last chunk of open space be developed. Ideally, I would love to see it as a future Suffolk County Park...
They were out there this week taking soil samples. The Links is going to be leveled by the Holiday Corp.- they want to build 184 single family homes plus a drug store (yeah, like we need another one of those), a restaurant, etc. They could possibly begin in about 1 year
Shamlet

Stratford, CT

#3 Aug 22, 2010
phil413 wrote:
<quoted text>They were out there this week taking soil samples. The Links is going to be leveled by the Holiday Corp.- they want to build 184 single family homes plus a drug store (yeah, like we need another one of those), a restaurant, etc. They could possibly begin in about 1 year
Great, more homes and traffic in the Shamlet of Smith Point. How could Mayor Licatta let this happen?
Confused

AOL

#4 Aug 22, 2010
There is no plan yet that has been decided on. They may build single family or senior citizens condo's and that decision has not been made yet.
I was there

Newark, NJ

#5 Aug 22, 2010
I see there was some demolition done near the building near the enterence

Since: May 08

Smith Point

#6 Aug 22, 2010
Confused wrote:
There is no plan yet that has been decided on. They may build single family or senior citizens condo's and that decision has not been made yet.
True...I said they "want" to build. The last thing we need here is a senior development, especially at the prices they were quoting - we all know that if they don't sell we could end up with something much worse and there are a lot of issues such as emergency response, etc. Then again more kids in the school district and more cars on Wm Floyd Pkwy isn't appealing either. If I had to choose, I'd take the single family homes, seems to be the lesser of two evils. Anyone know if they've done an environmental impact study yet? They want to build sewers and that's a whole different concern.
Confused

AOL

#7 Aug 22, 2010
They will not be building sewers if they do the single family homes, nor will there be a restaurant. The choices are not easy. Both will have a terrible impact on the community.
They have the right to build the single family homes as of right so they could do that very easily. If they want to build the senior housing they have to go for a change of zone.
I was there

Newark, NJ

#8 Aug 22, 2010
I could be wrong but i went to one of the village meetings with my husband way back when they were pushing this production. The Holiday Corporation staited they would not spec build no matter what. Lets wait and see. They also said they were going to put in a sewage treatment plant on the east end of the property that would service the development. The last I have heard was that the single family deal was nixed by the school board and they were going to try to get a zoning change to build the condos 480 I believe. I do not know what the status is but they did some demolition on a building in the front of the property.
Against Links

AOL

#9 Aug 22, 2010
They are as of now building 184-187 single family homes no sewage treatment plant no retail. They are playing hardball with Brookhaven Town. If we were a village by now we would have some say and control. Ony way to stop them now is an article 78 to stop them , but who has $15,000-$20,000 to stop them. Again we trust Brookhaven town and again we get screwed.
Confused

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#10 Aug 22, 2010
Against Links wrote:
They are as of now building 184-187 single family homes no sewage treatment plant no retail. They are playing hardball with Brookhaven Town. If we were a village by now we would have some say and control. Ony way to stop them now is an article 78 to stop them , but who has $15,000-$20,000 to stop them. Again we trust Brookhaven town and again we get screwed.
I hate to disagree with you but at this point nothing is official. They are still hoping to build the senior housing but if that doesn't happen, then they will go with the single family homes.
I was there

Newark, NJ

#11 Aug 22, 2010
Im not disagreeing with anyone..i just find it really hard to believe they are going to build 185 homes in this economy, in this area...especially at the price they mentioned at a meeting I attended with my husband. I believe it was over 500,000 and they said no spec building. Any idea when the building will start?
Confused

East Northport, NY

#12 Aug 22, 2010
If they do build the single family homes, they will lower the price. Now they will be between $350,000 & 400,000 but at this poinnt no one knows what is going to be built.
I was there

Newark, NJ

#13 Aug 22, 2010
any idea when?

“What Happened to Democracy?”

Since: May 08

Bronx

#14 Aug 22, 2010
I hope all voices join together against the 450 unit condo complex. St. James went this route - they were specifically told conveyances were in place to maintain their condos for 55 and over. However, when they could not sell these units, the owners went to court and had the conveyance changed. The result - Section 8 residents, as well as the potential for DSS housing. The apartments in front of Wm. Paca are at half capacity - and I did not notice the 55 + sign - now if memory serves correct, I believe it says Luxury Apartments.

My point is there is no way the Holiday Corp. will ever in this economy sell 450 condos - and the rest of us who plan on living here for a while may very well end up with a "Co-Op City" near the water. Despite the fact the Holiday Corp. is dangling a waste-water treatment facility that could service Neighborhood Rd., they are not going to connect it, and this could be millions.

If they want to build homes similar to the Woodland Estates, I have no issue with this - and I hope the school district revises their stance on no building except for a senior living facility. Because if these units don't sell, and there's a good probability that may happen, then imagine the influx of childern they'll have when the Holiday Corp. goes to court to change the conveyance - and believe me, they will.

Then we can all kiss our quality of life goodbye - as well as our property values. Too much for those of us with a vested interest to lose.
Shamlet

Stratford, CT

#15 Aug 23, 2010
Start kissing....unless the village movement is supported by the residents, Holiday will do what ever it wants.
Against Links

AOL

#16 Aug 23, 2010
Confused wrote:
<quoted text>
I hate to disagree with you but at this point nothing is official. They are still hoping to build the senior housing but if that doesn't happen, then they will go with the single family homes.
I agree it is not official, but as of now they are holding Brookhaven hostage with this plan until further notice. Also, as stated two years ago, Delia McKernan, who said "she cared about this community" who had backroom deals with the Holiday Corp for her and her husband to make money off the village idea relating to this, has started a new company, Holiday Home sales. What a shocker....See where this was all going a few years back after she claimed to have no other involvment with them..the truth is now coming out.
Confused

AOL

#17 Aug 23, 2010
Shamlet wrote:
Start kissing....unless the village movement is supported by the residents, Holiday will do what ever it wants.
The issue of what will be built at the Links will be settled long before there is a village so there will be no input from any village as to what will be developed there.
I was there

Newark, NJ

#18 Aug 23, 2010
How long is it going to take the holiday corp to start building?

“What Happened to Democracy?”

Since: May 08

Bronx

#19 Aug 23, 2010
Environmental impact studies normally take anywhere from 2 to 3 years - the question is, have they started this process?
Mommy22girls

Yorktown Heights, NY

#20 Aug 23, 2010
Tonytee1961 wrote:
Environmental impact studies normally take anywhere from 2 to 3 years - the question is, have they started this process?
I would imagine so. Why would they have started demolishing what was there with out lining up what to put in it's place? It has been closed for how long? They knew the course would never make it there and this was their way of getting in through a loop of saying look we tried it didn't work now let us build housing.

I am completely against any building going there is should be left as a recreational area.

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