Stop $15 million tax increase

[Aaron]

Surely people will not be bamboozled by the city of Greenville to vote for a $15 million YMCA added on to our property taxes! Why should the taxpayers foot the bill for this? Either the "Y" can cut it or they can't! NO to this huge tax bill.

[Local Dude]

http://heraldbanner.com/topnews/x1303531193/Y...

[Billy]

Money for the crumbling streets is one thing, but they don't need to build a fancy, schmanzy YMCA with taxpayer money! Let them raise the funds privately since you would still have to buy a membership to use it. We can not afford this extravagance, period.

[Local Dude]

http://heraldbanner.com/topnews/x503837088/GE...

[Kirby]

Big waste of taxpayer's money with a tax increase to go with it. I don't want to pay more in property taxes so that someone else can go to a fancier YMCA.

[pendergraft]

right on Kirby

[Kirby]

The taxpayers are going to get soaked if we don't stand up and vote this YMCA thing down. 1.)$15 million increase on top of $30 million for roads. 2) Geus is going to commit hundreds of thousands of dollars to this. Where does that money come from - the homeowners! 3.) The school district is going to pitch in some money - where do they get their money - from the TAXPAYERS! And for what? So the already privileged can go to an expanded YMCA while everyone else is the poorer for it. NO!

[pendergraft]

Local Dude wrote:

http://heraldbanner.com/topnew s/x503837088/GEUS-board-to-vot e-on-YMCA-events-center-projec t

we know you work for the paper...so stop pushing links on us

[Morrison]

Thank you, pendergraft! This guy must get a bonus on web hits! If only he would spend more time researching his stories, maybe we could get something other than mush in the newspaper.

[pendergraft]

Morrison wrote:

Thank you, pendergraft! This guy must get a bonus on web hits! If only he would spend more time researching his stories, maybe we could get something other than mush in the newspaper.

Morrison....need I say more....
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/greenville-tx...

[Zachary]

The YMCA is really trying to cram this down our throats. Taxpayers to pay $15 million for them to have a new facility to use for FREE (no rent!). Why? Sell memberships, raise the money privately or make do with what you have that is already paid for. Don't stick it to the taxpayers.

[Andy]

Seems like it started out at 4 million, crept up to 5 million and then zoomed all the way to 15 million. This should not be a taxpayer supported project.

[Greenville Supporter]

Sounds like everyone of you are the idiots that have been running this city all my life and your ideas haven't worked so you crap on everything else that isn't your idea. BTW, you guys have to come up with better cover names. Everyone knows who each of you are. pendergraft...come on...come up with a better name than that

[Citizen4Growth]

The street package is a bond that will be spreadout over several years and not all at once, so it would increase taxes by 30MM immediately. Secondly the YMCA pitch is for a YMCA & Event Center. This would be an excellent asset to drive business to the city and county. Greenville has been stuck in the same rut for my entire life and I believe it is time for the citizens to push it forward. Also, for the comment about the YMCA being for the well-off, the Y currently provides memberships to needy individuals for free. It is a non-profit organization that many of us grew being involved with and I would like for my son to have a awesome facility to utilize as he grows.

[Bob]

The YMCA will pass...so all you tightwad jokers against growth might consider where you are moving to...say Floyd???

[people r genius]

It won't pass Bob. I'd rather have streets. Keep those little piggies crossed. Get your priorities straight. You must be an investor. I hear the stock market is taking bets in crap shots.

[Samantha]

We may need a lot of things, but people are hurting right now with the economy. Not good timing for more taxes.

[pendergraft]

Greenville Supporter wrote:

Sounds like everyone of you are the idiots that have been running this city all my life and your ideas haven't worked so you crap on everything else that isn't your idea. BTW, you guys have to come up with better cover names. Everyone knows who each of you are. pendergraft...come on...come up with a better name than that

my middle name is Pendergraft, hey blowhard where did your generic covername come from? a jock -ey? BTW you need better arguments,$15m is small for a facility of this caliber. Greenville should cap it at $8m, and say get thr rest elsewhere. This is what cities like Allen and McKinney have done

[pendergraft]

Bob wrote:

The YMCA will pass...so all you tightwad jokers against growth might consider where you are moving to...say Floyd???

say it again Bob---this deal gets done. Floydites go to Choctaw and bet your craps table on it.

[people r genius]

pendergraft wrote:

<quoted text>say it again Bob---this deal gets done. Floydites go to Choctaw and bet your craps table on it.

My point is this. If the Y wants a facility, the City could provide the land and the Y should pay for the building, maintenance, and staff. If the City (taxpayers) pays for the facility, the City should run it. I don't think think we, as taxpayers, should give anything to another entity and take the liability. They want it..then they can build it and man it.