Glen Cove residents review sewage plan
#1 Dec 5, 2007
To the residents of Glen Cove: Don't do it. Something is lurking in Nassau and #2 will not stink as much as your new sewer bill come the 5th year. I would not trust Suozzi as much as I could throw him.
#2 Dec 5, 2007
Go for it! The salaries paid to the political appointees in these special districts is incredible! Eventually everyone will be paid on a county pay scale and at least taxpapyers will be able to see the pay scales. Any one who doesn't want this either doesn't know how outrageous the special districts are or are on their bloated payrolls!
#3 Dec 5, 2007
Lets tell it like it is, this is about removeing an eyesore for the mega development proposed on a still polluted Glen Cove Creek that Tommy Boy gave away to his backers in his failed run for governer!
Just like the incinerator his uncle, father of the current mayor , put in 25 years ago, now shutdown and about to be dismanteled with money from an "open space" bond.Nassau taxpayers just dont get it! You all are paying for this schmucks ambitions.
The Glen Cove Sewer Treatment Plant will be a "pump station" wthin the next 5 years when the Glen Isle Developemnt gets underway.This has nothng to do with surroundng communites.Pump it up Glen Cove Road to the center of Long Island! WOW thanks Nassau voters, you have saved us all a ton of money!
Say hello to a low water table on the Glen Cove Creek and give a big kiss-kiss, hug and a long over due Adious Amingo, to all those hacks on the dole/payroll supported by the Glen Cove taxpayers!
#4 Dec 5, 2007
Why should the rest of the county have to pay to maintain this system. I live in Glen Head and do not have sewers, however my county taxes are going to pay for the maintenance. If I want to tap into the system is the county goning to let me do it at a reasonable rate or are they going to charge me a ridiculous amount. Also will the County pump my cesspool like the city does for the City residents who are not hooked up to the sewers. Something smells real bad here and it is not the garage.
#5 Dec 6, 2007
Wow, some crazy comments coming out here - why must people state things that have no basis in reality?
Pump station. Um, yeah. They will take a 50 million dollar plant that is running at 50% capacity and convert it to a pump station.
Personally, I think what this plan needs is for the public to actually know what the hell the actual DEAL is, so we can evaluate it. Without that information, we are ALL guessing as to who the real winners and losers are.
However, if you think they are going to convert and devalue an asset of this magnitude then you are way, WAY off base.
Cronies and BS politics and favors are sadly still a part of the landscape, but let's take off the tinfoil hats now, people.
#6 Dec 6, 2007
How much would you bet that the rates in Glen Cove are scheduled to go up tremendously in the next 5 years. Suozzi is trying to help himself and his GC buddies by spreading the huge Glen Cove increase over the whole County. And would anyone elsewhere in Nassau expect that their sewer taxes will not go up over five years?
With all the business that left Glen Cove there are no industries left to pay a rate subsidy and keep residential rates down. He is only helping himself and protecting the people in Glen Cove at the expense of the rest of us taxpayers (as usual).
And he has the nerve to ask for a 60 percent raise! He thinks he is too smart for us, but we know his game.
Next, someone should ask how much of that bond money will be spent on the South Shore. It is just another way to protect his pals by preventing development up by where he lives.
The south shore has to deal with the overcrowding and the traffic and he gets to keep his country manor!
#7 Dec 6, 2007
Heres an artical for No-MO to reflect on!
April 2, 1995
Suozzi Can Fulfill His Campaign Pledge
In the late 1970's Donald DeRiggi, as a Glen Cove Councilman, opposed the building of the co-disposal plant, or incinerator-sewage-treatment facility, and submitted an alternative proposal, which involved connecting Glen Cove's sewer system into that run and maintained by Nassau County.
Nassau County approved the plan, and had it been enacted, the Glen Cove sewer system would have only needed a hookup and a pump station to force the effluent into the county system, where it would be treated and disposed of.
Instead, then Mayor Vincent Suozzi decided to proceed with the incinerator-and-sewage-treatme nt plant. This design called for the incinerator to supply electricity to the sewage-treatment plant and to burn the residue, or sludge, from the sewage-treatment system.
The co-disposal plant was built at a cost of $40 million with a subsidy from the Federal and state governments, but nonetheless with a large annual expenditure to the city during the course of the life of the bond.
Mr. DeRiggi defeated Thomas R. Suozzi in the only election in which they faced each other. This occurred in 1991, and during the beginning of the race Mr. Suozzi, in the League of Women Voters Guide, stated that he believed the Glen Cove incinerator was the best method of handling our garbage disposal.
The City of Glen Cove and the Department of Environmental Conservation had worked out a plan for the upgrading of the co-disposal system. The city was to build enclosures for the tipping floor, or dump area, and for the ash area. The operator, Montenay, was to install gas burners to assure a minimum burning temperature. Two weeks after Mr. Suozzi received the nomination, Richard M. Kessel, Governor Cuomo's representative in Nassau, entered the picture. And he and Mr. Suozzi became advocates to change the D.E.C.-Glen Cove stipulation and to close the incinerator.
The 1991 election dealt with several issues, one of which was the co-disposal plant. The issue was fully discussed in the newspapers and in the literature disseminated by both candidates. Mr. DeRiggi pointed out that closing the incinerator would result in an annual increase in taxes of over $1 million for the city's waste disposal, because of the fact that the electricity needed to run the sewage-treatment plant and the cost of sludge disposal would go up by that amount if the incinerator was not available. The electorate had a full presentation of the alternatives, and Mr. DeRiggi was re-elected. Two years later, Mr. Suozzi defeated another candidate.
The Island Recycling and Environmental Corporation, which is 60 percent owned by Severn Trent, an English company, is one of the world's largest co-disposal operators and has committed to upgrade the plant to meet and exceed new Federal levels.
Nonetheless, Mr. Suozzi can certainly withdraw Glen Cove's application from the D.E.C. and end the entire argument and fulfill his 1993 campaign pledge to close the incinerator. He has not seen fit to do this, however. CAROL PELUSO Glen Cove
#8 Dec 9, 2007
I appreciate the article, but it simply does not reflect today's reality. The treatment plant an asset that is worth 50 Million dollars. As much as the developers (and anyone who lives around the Creek be it Glen Cove or Sea Cliff) would LOVE for that plant to move/changed into a pump station, there is no way it will happen. This is too large an asset for Glen Cove and potentially for the County.
The problem imo is that the County is trying to sneak this deal through while paying considerably less for the plant then they should, preying on Glen Cove's fiscal mess - the plant accounts for 3-4 Million in debt every year, although that is largely due to the fact that it is so underutilized.
So, while articles discussing the situation as it was 10 or 20 or 30 years ago when the plant was built and/or when the incinerator was taken out of commission may shed SOME background on this issue, they are not especially relevant in regard to getting rid of the plant today - when you look at the landscape we have at the moment, there is no way that Plant is changed except for the fact that Nassau will take it over and create sewers in Sea Cliff, Glen Head, Glenwood Landing, Locust Valley etc.
#9 Dec 11, 2007
You and your ilk would rather defer public opinion from the main problem here; That one generation of Suozzi's build's it on the taxpayers dime, and then blow's it up for a "telegenic moment" or pawns our waterfront off to the lowest bidder!
#10 Dec 12, 2007
I was merely pointing out a ridiculous arguement that holds no water (no pun intended - ok, a little intended perhaps). If you want to discuss larger issues at hand, go ahead.
Then again, why would spreading complete misinformation stop anyone who has some axe to grind? You love to say how the politicians misinform, don't provide context etc (and that is often the case). However, the nimbys and complainers and negativity dwellers are far from exempt from the very same tactics they attack.
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