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McCain introduces vp candidate Palin in Wisconsin

There are 76 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Sep 5, 2008, titled McCain introduces vp candidate Palin in Wisconsin. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Republican presidential candidate John McCain and running mate Sarah Palin have received a rousing reception in their first joint appearance in a politically vital state after the GOP convention.

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Saint Paul, MN

#62 Sep 7, 2008
Grandpa Ken of 7 wrote:
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From one of the articles....LA Times
"Palin's statement 'IMPLIED' that the plane had sold through the online auction site, which is revered for empowering millions of small entrepreneurs."
You gullable fool. She never said it sold and never "implied" that it had sold through ebay during her acceptance speech. LA Times...the media that kisses the Big O's behind, give me a break. When you can produce articles from unbiased journalists and media, please do so.
Please re-read what I stated and please stop misquoting. I never wrote she stated or implied it was sold on ebay.

I stated: "McCain stated she sold it on ebay for a profit." So you are calling McCain a fool and your issue is with him. Frankly, I do think he is a fool

I stated: "Palin stated she put it on ebay but fail to state how it was sold." She has yet to state to a public group how the plane was sold. If she as stated how it was sold please let me know the when and where.

If you are going to call people names make sure you know what you are talking about.
Crab Nelula Elien

United States

#63 Sep 7, 2008
Google This wrote:
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Please re-read what I stated and please stop misquoting. I never wrote she stated or implied it was sold on ebay.
I stated: "McCain stated she sold it on ebay for a profit." So you are calling McCain a fool and your issue is with him. Frankly, I do think he is a fool
I stated: "Palin stated she put it on ebay but fail to state how it was sold." She has yet to state to a public group how the plane was sold. If she as stated how it was sold please let me know the when and where.
If you are going to call people names make sure you know what you are talking about.
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Saint Paul, MN

#64 Sep 7, 2008
Crab Nelula Elien wrote:
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Your contribution is a great at prove my basic points of how thembots think and use logic.

BTW, Huntington Beach is a nice community. Learned to scuba dive there. Played against HBHS in sports. We would beat the snot out of them in football, volleyball, and track. Seems wusses still live there.
BBT

International Falls, MN

#65 Sep 7, 2008
Being an independent and having friends that use E-Bay quite often, putting something on E-Bay does not mean that you have sold it on E-Bay. Thats rather common sense. Somebody wrote that it was used to transport prisoners as if this was its only use. That is not true. It was used for both with the Gov's time continually increasing. Regardless it was an extravagance and she was correct. The next issue is that transporting prisoners was found to be much less by contracting it out with the last marshall fights transporting 145 prisoners at a cost of $127,000.00 or $875 per/head. The same cost for using the jet would have been $1,674 per/head for a cost of $242,730.00 or a savings of $115,730.00. It doesn't take many trips to figure out the increasing cost with todays fuel. It appears to have been a good financial move for Alaska.
Nursinghomebound

Saint Paul, MN

#66 Sep 7, 2008
Granpa Ken of 7 wrote:
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That argument has no substance. I have told friends and family members that I have put items on ebay. That does not translate into, "I sold something on ebay". There is no misleading at all. You will believe what you want to believe. That's what is wrong with everyone taking sides on party lines in the current political atmosphere.
First, it wasn't an arguement. If it had been, I would of said your perception was wrong, I didn't. I respectfully explained, in defense of the blogger you insulted (gullible fool), that gullible fool was not alone in his perception. Secondly, I specifically noted that the large group who watched this speech were from various parties. The purpose for acknowledging that fact was to demonstrate the group was unbiased. No one is wrong if they interpreted her statement one way or another. I see no reason to insult people just because you saw it differently.
republican government

United States

#68 Sep 7, 2008
senator,
i've been preparing for a tax hearing tomorrow morning in federal court (a US tax court hearing in Los Angeles). it's important to me that i be well-rested and as coherent as possible. i tried to rest this afternoon and was subjected to 30-45 minutes of helicopter noise, obviously intent on keeping me from relaxing. if the government had something meaningful to communicate it could have done so, though its response was simply to interfere with my due process rights.
glen broemer
Byon W

Jefferson City, MO

#69 Sep 7, 2008
Robin wrote:
Her speech in June provides as much insight into her policy leanings as anything uncovered since she was asked to be John McCain's running mate.
You people will twist anything to try to get your way. You are part of the problem.
Independent Thinker

Somerset, WI

#70 Sep 7, 2008
Nursinghomebound wrote:
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First, it wasn't an arguement. If it had been, I would of said your perception was wrong, I didn't. I respectfully explained, in defense of the blogger you insulted (gullible fool), that gullible fool was not alone in his perception. Secondly, I specifically noted that the large group who watched this speech were from various parties. The purpose for acknowledging that fact was to demonstrate the group was unbiased. No one is wrong if they interpreted her statement one way or another. I see no reason to insult people just because you saw it differently.
Your unbiased group determined conclusion because they assumed they were right in their decision without evaluating the true facts and taking the time to check all pertinent information.
Nursinghomebound

Saint Paul, MN

#71 Sep 7, 2008
Grandpa Ken of 7 wrote:
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From one of the articles....LA Times
"Palin's statement 'IMPLIED' that the plane had sold through the online auction site, which is revered for empowering millions of small entrepreneurs."
You gullable fool. She never said it sold and never "implied" that it had sold through ebay during her acceptance speech. LA Times...the media that kisses the Big O's behind, give me a break. When you can produce articles from unbiased journalists and media, please do so.
Would it be fair to say she "implied" the jet was sold to save taxpayer's money?
This is the excerpt from her speech:
While I was at it, I got rid of a few things in the governor's office that I didn't believe our citizens should have to pay for.
That luxury jet was over the top. I put it on eBay.

This is the official statement in regards to the selling of the jet. The reason it was being sold had little to do with sparing citizens having to pay for it. The jet was "impractical and unwise", "The jet doesn't meet the Department of Public Safety's mission profile due to the requirement for long, paved runways".

If we want to get really petty, I mean really petty, we could debate if she didn't imply she personally put it on ebay, or if she didn't imply she saved the taxpayers money by doing so. Since Alaskan residents do not pay individual income tax or sales tax (generally), the majority of their operating costs comes from petroleum revenues and federal subsidies.

Title: Governor Palin Will Sell Jet
Date: 12/12/2006
Location: Juneau, Alaska
Speech

Governor Palin Will Sell Jet

Governor Sarah Palin today directed Department of Public Safety Commissioner, Walt Monegan, to sell the jet that was purchased by former Governor Frank Murkowski&#146;s administration. The Westwind II will be put up for auction on eBay.

&#147;The purchase of the jet was impractical and unwise and it&#146;s time to get rid of it,&#148; said Governor Palin. &#147;In the meantime, I am keeping my promise not to set foot on the jet.&#148;

Commissioner Walt Monegan said, "The jet doesn&#146;t meet the Department of Public Safety's mission profile due to the requirement for long, paved runways.&#148;

The State has successfully used eBay in the past to sell State assets, including the Bartlett, a former Marine Highways ferry, and several Public Safety aircraft. The State's surplus property disposal policy is to use eBay for high value, mobile assets because it offers the widest possible exposure for these types of sales, at a low cost.

The jet was purchased for $2,692,600 in November 2005 by the Murkowski administration. Until final sale, Governor Palin has authorized the Department of Public Safety to use the jet for suitable operational purposes.

http://gov.state.ak.us/archive
Nursinghomebound

Saint Paul, MN

#72 Sep 7, 2008
Independent Thinker wrote:
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Your unbiased group determined conclusion because they assumed they were right in their decision without evaluating the true facts and taking the time to check all pertinent information.
You are correct, we were listening to her speech and not one of the group thought to whip out a laptop and verify the facts as they were unfolding.
Nursinghomebound

Saint Paul, MN

#74 Sep 7, 2008
Google This wrote:
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Please re-read what I stated and please stop misquoting. I never wrote she stated or implied it was sold on ebay.
I stated: "McCain stated she sold it on ebay for a profit." So you are calling McCain a fool and your issue is with him. Frankly, I do think he is a fool
I stated: "Palin stated she put it on ebay but fail to state how it was sold." She has yet to state to a public group how the plane was sold. If she as stated how it was sold please let me know the when and where.
If you are going to call people names make sure you know what you are talking about.
Bravo to that. Grandpa Ken calling you gullible fool got me all worked up for some reason! Ended up responding to all of this when the selling of the jet, is something I could care less about. Have always been opposed to personally attacking bloggers because of difference of opinion or in this case perception.

Since: Aug 08

Saint Paul, MN

#75 Sep 7, 2008
WTF cares! Sold or offered on Ebay, it doesn't really matter. It only matters that she sold it because she thought it was wasteful. Can we all move on now and stop this pointless string?
what

Saint Paul, MN

#76 Sep 8, 2008
MNCyclone wrote:
**** cares! Sold or offered on Ebay, it doesn't really matter. It only matters that she sold it because she thought it was wasteful. Can we all move on now and stop this pointless string?
I'm with you, for everyone who said she "impliede" she sold it there would be someone else who said that's not what she meant. but that's what these blogs are anyway one persons views vs anothers.
Myself

Cottage Grove, MN

#77 Sep 8, 2008
Rose wrote:
Have you checked out how many lobbyists have courted Mr. McCain. And, how many checks have been given? If I was making military hardware, I'd vote or McCain in a minute. There are people that don't mind perpetual war. And, there are profits to be made.
Hey Rose,

You wanna tell me who's campaign has more money?

You wanna tell me who's skirting the campaign finance reform laws?

It the selective opinion of many just amazes me beyond belief.

Try to follow me, now. If Obama's campaign has significantly more money than McCain's, where is it that you think Obama's money is coming from, Joe Public? Don't make me laugh.

Both the Obama and Clinton campaigns where outed by the Canadian government for privately following up with them early in their campaigns to communicate their support for NAFTA and to tell them not to worry about the campaign rhetoric that the senators had been publicizing as they were simply telling people what they want to hear so that they can get elected.

But Obama and Clinton, mis-lead the public to get elected or take money from evil business to fund their campaigns? Oh, no way.

You people are so friggin gullible you make me sick. I've got a bridge that I'll sell you. It used to be over the Mississippi
Marko

United States

#78 Sep 8, 2008
MNCyclone wrote:
**** cares! Sold or offered on Ebay, it doesn't really matter. It only matters that she sold it because she thought it was wasteful. Can we all move on now and stop this pointless string?
Wasteful.
Question: Why did REPUBLICAN Governor Frank Murkowski feel it was necessary in the first place?
really glad

Thiensville, WI

#79 Sep 8, 2008
There are really alot more victor republicans then you think and when push comes to shove they will walk all over the victum democrats.

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