Christ is NOT against Abortion nor Gays

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#21 Oct 24, 2012
So, once again it has been proven even WITH the rewritten and revised Born again evangelical bible that neither Christ nor God in the CHRISTIAN religion is against gays nor abortion.

Does this mean that born again evangelicals are not really Christians?
doug

Tsumeb, Namibia

#22 Oct 26, 2012
doug wrote:
<quoted text> you have no idea what you are talking about, you have never read the Bible,(May God open your eyes)
but the scriptures says they have eyes to see but they are blind they have ears to hear but they are death cannot hear,( this is not Jewish laws i have the Jewish Bible and they condemn men who sleep with men, By the way i do not depend on a preacher man, i have studied the Bible for the past 32 yrs .
May God forgive you.
read the king james Bible you will Even find God's name in there
miss parker, to conceive a child and then kill it makes no sense, the idea is repugnant
doug

Tsumeb, Namibia

#23 Oct 26, 2012
God does not cause the bad conditions in the world.
Job.34:10so , o man of heart,listen to me, far be it from God to do wickedness, and the almighty, to do evilly.
James.1:13 let no one being tempted say, I am tempted from God, for God is not tempted by evil,and he temps no one.
James 1:14 but each one is tempted by his own lust, being drawn out and being seduced by them.
Gal.6:7 be not deceived, God is not mocked for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Rom.1:27 and likewise, the males also forsaking the natural use of the female burned in their lust to wards one another, males with males working out shamefulness, and receiving back within themselves the reward which was fitting for their error.
1Corr6:9 they will not inhered the kingdom------.

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#24 Oct 26, 2012
doug wrote:
<quoted text>
miss parker, to conceive a child and then kill it makes no sense, the idea is repugnant
What makes you think every pregnancy is due to a deliberate attempt to conceive?

You do know Christ's best friend and possibly wife was a whore, right? Your speaking about women in such a negative and vile way and manner as to think every pregnancy is deliberate not only exposes your ignorance on the subject, but insults Jesus as well.

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#25 Oct 26, 2012
doug wrote:
God does not cause the bad conditions in the world.
Job.34:10so , o man of heart,listen to me, far be it from God to do wickedness, and the almighty, to do evilly.
http://www.evilbible.com/god%27s%20not%20pro-...

I see so many retarded ass Christians talking about abortion being a crime against God. It’s not a wonder that they are hard pressed to find a conclusive biblical statement to corroborate their position. In their determination to control women they have been forced to rely on exceedingly weak sections such as “thou shall not kill”,”I kneweth thou in the womb” and their favorite:“When men strive together, and hurt a woman with child, so that there is a miscarriage, and yet no harm follows, the one who hurt her shall be fined, according as the woman’s husband shall lay upon; and he shall pay as the judges determine. If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth...“--Exodus 21:22-24 The problem here is that the man who injures a pregnant woman in the process, shall repay her according to the degree of injury inflicted on her, not the fetus. I am often dumbfounded at how Christians can assume that abortion is wrong judging by these feeble verses when the Bible clearly advocates infanticide and many other atrocities against children and pregnant women. I can no longer allow such ignorance of the Bible and deem it necessary to expose the true agenda. I am tired of the many young Christians who are brainwashed by their clergy. They are only taught the “love and mercy” parts of the Bible and never bother to read what is not so openly preached . The Church thrives off of speaking in half truths and concealing their blood soaked robes. Of course my job as preacher of an Atheist parish is to give a sermon about those things that the Bible TRUTHFULLY commands. Here they are, god’s views on the unborn, the actions of righteous men” and god’s commands of infanticide and child abuse:(note-There are Torah verses in this list but I will not attack the Jewish faith for being pro-life since they are not rampant advocates of the matter.)



Abortion:

Hosea 9:11-16 Hosea prays for God’s intervention.“Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer. Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts...Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.” Clearly Hosea desires that the people of Ephraim can no longer have children. God of course obeys by making all their unborn children miscarry. Is not terminating a pregnancy unnaturally “abortion”?

Numbers 5:11-21 The description of a bizarre, brutal and abusive ritual to be performed on a wife SUSPECTED of adultery. This is considered to be an induced abortion to rid a woman of another man’s child.

Numbers 31:17 (Moses)“Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him.” In other words: women that might be pregnant, which clearly is abortion for the fetus.

Hosea 13:16 God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and the “their women with child shall be ripped up”. Once again this god kills the unborn, including their pregnant mothers.

2 Kings 15:16 God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah (aka Tiphsah) to be “ripped open”. And the Christians have the audacity to say god is pro-life. How and the hell is it that Christians can read passages where God allows pregnant women to be murdered, yet still claim abortion is wrong?

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Your judgement of me as being evil is a kickback onto you for denouncing God as the one who passes judgment and putting yourself as a god before him.
FACTS

Sanford, NC

#26 Oct 30, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
No where in the bible, the Christian bible, not the rewritten born again evangelical bible, does it say that Christ is against abortion nor homosexuality. GOD never was against homosexuality, just the guys who are given credit for the chapters.
So, what's the REAL reason for the born again huff about this? To impose their hate filled religion onto my secular government and to stop women from having any rights.
You'll find out , Cookie (Kooky) when you stand before the Lord
and he says, "depart from Me, I never knew you."
Then you will be sent to hell forever.
Can you comprehand never ending?
It goes on and on and on......
God hates homosexuality. He says it's an abomination.
He is NOT for abortion.
He says I knew you befor you were formed in the womb.
It's in the Bible, you just don't read or comprehend it.
Too bad.
When you are sent to hell there is no way to get out and
IT NEVER ENDS.
You'd better get into a Bible Believing church and find out
your error before it's too late.

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#27 Oct 31, 2012
FACTS wrote:
<quoted text>
You'll find out , Cookie (Kooky) when you stand before the Lord
and he says, "depart from Me, I never knew you."
Then you will be sent to hell forever.
Can you comprehand never ending?
It goes on and on and on......
God hates homosexuality. He says it's an abomination.
He is NOT for abortion.
He says I knew you befor you were formed in the womb.
It's in the Bible, you just don't read or comprehend it.
Too bad.
When you are sent to hell there is no way to get out and
IT NEVER ENDS.
You'd better get into a Bible Believing church and find out
your error before it's too late.
I don't have to worry about that. I don't tell God to stand aside and forget what his son told us and that I"LL judge others and tell them they will go to h3ll.

Only those arrogant enough to claim to BE god judge others...the rest follow Christ's teachings of separation of church and state and love others .
doug

Tsumeb, Namibia

#28 Nov 6, 2012
wondering 2 wrote:
Cookie parker, when you read the bible....go slow, so that maybe you'll understand. God says we are not to miss quote his word ir change it to fit our needs ..if you really want answers open the bible. God is against homosexuality...im sure you already know this .....i will pray for you so that you might come to understand the word of god.im not judging you ..just saying you must not have read the bible..
gay people are sick

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#29 Nov 6, 2012
doug wrote:
<quoted text>
gay people are sick
Those who sit in judgment of others are the work of the devil...

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#30 Nov 7, 2012
doug wrote:
<quoted text>
miss parker, to conceive a child and then kill it makes no sense, the idea is repugnant
Pregnancy doesn't mean a person wants to conceive a child. Birth control usage does not guarantee a person won't get pregnant.

And the ability to conceive WHEN a woman wants, how many TIMES a woman wants and by whom is the WOMAN'S choice
doug

Tsumeb, Namibia

#31 Nov 14, 2012
miss parker, tell me did God make murderers ,thief's
rapists of small children ,and all types of bad people ??
I say no, our parents made us and( God gave us life) he also gave us a choice to choose between right and wrong (good and bad),(murderers,thief's and rapists chose there way of life gay people chose there way of life they want to be like there mothers, and some of them were molested by someone when they were children. I know a man that was married had children
while he was married he became involved with a gay man and had a affair with him,he then divorced his good wife and is still living with this gay man. I don't have the right to judge them,but i do have the right tell my children that what they do is very wrong and God will judge them one day therefore I also have the right not to like them as they choose to live a immoral live style .

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#32 Nov 14, 2012
doug wrote:
miss parker, tell me did God make murderers ,thief's
rapists of small children ,and all types of bad people ??
I say no, our parents made us and( God gave us life) he also gave us a choice to choose between right and wrong (good and bad),(murderers,thief's and rapists chose there way of life gay people chose there way of life they want to be like there mothers, and some of them were molested by someone when they were children. I know a man that was married had children
while he was married he became involved with a gay man and had a affair with him,he then divorced his good wife and is still living with this gay man. I don't have the right to judge them,but i do have the right tell my children that what they do is very wrong and God will judge them one day therefore I also have the right not to like them as they choose to live a immoral live style .
You can brain wash your children to believe whatever YOU believe, but neither God nor Christ was against gays nor abortion.

But god and Christ ARE against bigots, sexists, racist and haters like you.
NorbertE

San Francisco, CA

#33 Dec 5, 2012
M?? Parker:

How is calling someone's actions sinful "being hateful"? You seem MORE THAN A LITTLE misguided.

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#34 Dec 5, 2012
NorbertE wrote:
M?? Parker:
How is calling someone's actions sinful "being hateful"? You seem MORE THAN A LITTLE misguided.
It's hateful because the agenda is to deny consitutional rights based upon NO religious requirements.

CHRIST is not against abortion..it's hateful to deny a woman a right to one saying it's "murder".

I'm not misguided...you're just not that educated.
doug

Tsumeb, Namibia

#35 Dec 6, 2012
miss parker, if your god made gay people,murderers,
rapists of old ladies and young children even 2 year old babies as it happened in south Africa ,then i want nothing to do with him.
My God is the God of Moses, Abraham,Jacob and Isaac
for he is a loving God.

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#36 Dec 6, 2012
doug wrote:
miss parker, if your god made gay people,murderers,
rapists of old ladies and young children even 2 year old babies as it happened in south Africa ,then i want nothing to do with him.
My God is the God of Moses, Abraham,Jacob and Isaac
for he is a loving God.
YOUR god is NOT against abortion NOR gays...the author of LEveticus is against gays...NOT god..because Christ, who came to make God's word flesh, NEVER spoke against abortion nor gays.

We have the same god...I just am able to interpret the bible and your preacherman there in Waterloo won't let you.
bill

Palm Springs, CA

#37 Dec 8, 2012
Abortion is murder and that is one of the ten commandments. Gay relations are adultry..another of the commandments. Whoever started this forum with their blasphemous statements must be pretty thick in the skull. Blasphemy is a very bad idea. Re-think things before it's too late.
doug

Tsumeb, Namibia

#38 Dec 9, 2012
God made Adam and Eve NOT ADAM AND STEVE

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#39 Dec 9, 2012
bill wrote:
Abortion is murder and that is one of the ten commandments. Gay relations are adultry..another of the commandments. Whoever started this forum with their blasphemous statements must be pretty thick in the skull. Blasphemy is a very bad idea. Re-think things before it's too late.
Abortion is NOT murder. Murder can only occur when you have two separate lives. A fetus is a parasite that takes from the mother to live. IT is the murderer. It is not a human being until it is born.

Homosexuals are not condemned by Christ. Anyone who condemns abortion or homosexuals are NOT practicing Christians.

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#40 Dec 9, 2012
doug wrote:
God made Adam and Eve NOT ADAM AND STEVE
But adam and eve made a LOT Of Adam and Steves. Is god's work terrible then according to you? Did god create sin?

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