Deputies seize cigarettes from upstate NY tribe

Authorities in two upstate New York counties raided cigarette shops operated by the Cayuga Indian Nation. Full Story
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proud american

Geneva, NY

#1 Nov 25, 2008
No warning? Should have sent a smoke signal!
Aboriginalmutt

Geneseo, NY

#2 Nov 25, 2008
Any land owned by a tribal is treated as if it were directly on tribal reservation land. The moment one enters reservation land one leaves the united states. PuertoRico opted out of becoming a state to remain Sovereign (self ruling, self taxation.
historynut

Rochester, NY

#3 Nov 25, 2008
Way to go big government. Let's perpetuate the obnoxious cycle of mistreatment to our native peoples. It the tax money that important...pathetic and embarassing for the government. How about focusing efforts on big business and tax evasion instead of bail-outs and shortsighted raids on the reservations.
tam

Rome, NY

#4 Nov 25, 2008
cigarettes are high in price as it is and then throw the tax's on to it ya ya
Rochester resident

Bergen, NY

#5 Nov 25, 2008
About time,they have been getting away with it for years.I pay taxes so should they.
r2d2a

Hilton, NY

#6 Nov 25, 2008
Amen. they get all the benefits of citezenship we all pay without the cost.
Treatys say nothing about tax free ciggarettes.
Barb

Solon, OH

#7 Nov 25, 2008
Get ready people, New York is coming for what's in your wallet too!!!! Thanks to the idiots on wall strett in the "City" ,all of New York will have to pay and they will grab the $ anyway they can. Casinos are next, then more taxes on Thruway, hotels etc so any business actually left in New York will leave.

Tax, tax, tax.

Those in the Boston Tea party are crying...

Where or where has our country gone???
Sam

Newark, NY

#8 Nov 25, 2008
Well New York has already came for everybody's wallet. That started many many years ago. It sucks because now all the poor chain smoking people won't be able to avoid paying taxes anymore. The reason NY would try to go after this tax money is because they simply can't afford to raise taxes and they need the revenue. So if your a chain smoking bingo playing granny look out!! It will be much worse then the last time they raised your lot rent.
jackss

Prior Lake, MN

#9 Nov 26, 2008
they probably kept them screw nys they'll just waste that money these people don't give a shit about middle class
tom

Rochester, NY

#10 Nov 26, 2008
Do you really think the extra tax revenue they steal,I mean collect,from the Native Americans will make any kind of a difference to the average taxpayer.I highly doubt it.We'll still be paying the same taxes,probably more.Everything will be the same as usual.The extra money will end up in some "elected" official's pocket.Do I sound like I'm bitter?You're damn right.Leave the Indians alone.We've boned them enough.
Jennifer

Newark, NY

#11 Nov 26, 2008
We didn't "bone" anyone. The people that boned them or the Indians that got boned are dead now.
Allen

Syracuse, NY

#12 Nov 26, 2008
Well, as much as I am for these orginizations and Governments to Honor Indian Treaties, The places these Cigarettes were found were Not on any Indian owned land and thus were legally confiscated.

However, everytime we vote for any Increase anywhere be it local, national or state or be it for those who have a history of tax increases like we have here in NY. You have seen the end result when they continually try and close down LEGAL Operations and Sales on Reservations. But in light of the recent elections, it seems we are in for more increased taxes that everyone will end up paying!
DDfromthe roch

Hilton, NY

#13 Nov 28, 2008
What is going on? Who in the hell do these politicians think they are? Why would they think they have a right to tell a sovereign nation what they have to do. WE DO NOT OWN INDIAN LAND ....

It is like going into Canada or Mexico and taking items we don't own and saying you need to charge more because we want more. Are you joking. Time to vote these ass holes out of office. Blomberg you're a nightmare. Hitler for sure.

The Indians do not owe us anything. We owe them. Who in the hell do you think you all are when it comes to sovereign nations.
Give me a break.....If I were an Indian I would charge a huge toll to use my property for the NYS through way. The NYS politician are as thug and dangerous as any other gang. NY find another way to get your money. or stop spending one of the two. Do not look to tax more. Its getting old and people are sick of it. Not everyone thinks we should keep taking from a people that we have stolen from over and over. This will show up in the polls for sure.
John

Newark, NY

#14 Nov 28, 2008
Well I think Indians should not have to charge tax to other Indians. But if big brother whitey comes in then he has to pay the tax. If no then the state of New York needs to setup tax toll booths as people reenter the state from the reservations.
Tyrone

Newark, NY

#15 Nov 28, 2008
The only people that care about this are the heavy smokers. It saves them money while other smokers in the state not near the rez still have to pay the tax. Their attitude towards the other smokers is "screw you" or "ha ha". Well the game is over and it's on it's 11th hour. All the granny's that play bingo with their hoarse voices look out!
Redneck Taxpayer

Batavia, NY

#16 Nov 28, 2008
I'm not Indian but I certainly do appreciate all that they have given me. Yes, I am a smoker and yes I have purchased cigs from the rez. Tax them my a.s! What the hell is wrong with NY? Don't they have enough high powered politicians making tons of money who can pay what they owe. The poor man always bites the bullet. What's next? We can't smoke in bars, we can't smoke in restaurants and now they're trying to make it illegal to smoke in your own car! How about, you have legally raped us long enough!!
smokem if u gotem

Clinton, NY

#17 Nov 28, 2008
roll roll roll your own, gentle down the stream merryily merryily merryily merryily life is but a pipe dream in NY that is
Allen

Syracuse, NY

#18 Nov 29, 2008
Yes they are a Soveriegn Nation inside the boundaries of the Reservation, But these Cigarettes were Not being Sold On The Reservation, They were being sold in a NON TREATY Area. A Private Business Not on Indian Lands.

Unfortunatly this would be like finding someone with Cigarettes from another State where there is No Tax Stamp being sold in the State.

Now I am for the State to Leave Them alone, but in this case they were wrong. And BTW, I am Part Mohawk as My Great Grandmother was Full Blooded!
DDfromthe roch wrote:
What is going on? Who in the hell do these politicians think they are? Why would they think they have a right to tell a sovereign nation what they have to do. WE DO NOT OWN INDIAN LAND ....
It is like going into Canada or Mexico and taking items we don't own and saying you need to charge more because we want more. Are you joking. Time to vote these **** holes out of office. Blomberg you're a nightmare. Hitler for sure.
The Indians do not owe us anything. We owe them. Who in the hell do you think you all are when it comes to sovereign nations.
Give me a break.....If I were an Indian I would charge a huge toll to use my property for the NYS through way. The NYS politician are as thug and dangerous as any other gang. NY find another way to get your money. or stop spending one of the two. Do not look to tax more. Its getting old and people are sick of it. Not everyone thinks we should keep taking from a people that we have stolen from over and over. This will show up in the polls for sure.
tailspin

Medina, NY

#19 Nov 30, 2008
I think its a class c felony to steal cigs at gun point cop or not.you wouid think seneca co. would of known better.

Since: Nov 08

Batavia, NY

#20 Dec 14, 2008
historynut wrote:
Way to go big government. Let's perpetuate the obnoxious cycle of mistreatment to our native peoples. It the tax money that important...pathetic and embarassing for the government. How about focusing efforts on big business and tax evasion instead of bail-outs and shortsighted raids on the reservations.
I couldn't agree with you more. These guys in their high-rise are suffocating the middle man and continue to make we little people pay their way by creating higher taxes so that we can foot their bills. Leave the natives alone and start paying your own damn taxes!!! I wonder where Obama gets his cigs!!??

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