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rough

Horse Cave, KY

#42 Aug 19, 2012
Sure Sure wrote:
<quoted text>Here he goes again with all his secret information that no one ever gets to see or hear, is everyone inpressed?? Just like all the info he had foe sale, oops it's sold but it'll come out before election. NOTHING, then he had more info for sale, ect......
it must really be hard, keeping up with all those recordings he has, don't you think. he probably has a library with nothing but recorded conversations he has had. sounds insecure and instable to me. lol
MGrams

Waconia, MN

#43 Aug 19, 2012
Admit it wrote:
<quoted text>So YOU admit You lied when You said You would be gone! When You say We does that mean You'll be living with Your family again? What part of the post is the hypocrit about? You said You would be gone and that was a lie.
No I didnt lie..I said I would be gone when ALL the property is sold. When that happens you can have your little city to yourself. Your an idiot if you dont understand that I live with my wife and children also known as my family...Other family members own property there also but I am only getting rid of what we (wife and I) have or are part owners of. So I dont know where you get hypocrit and liar from it all. I have been nice about the posts on here but wont sit back and watch a bunch of people who think they know what was going on slander others when the people they support are just as crooked, liars, theives, and drug users/dealers. It apears that many are scared to stand up to people like houchens, davidsons, and others in power.
MGrams

Waconia, MN

#44 Aug 19, 2012
Sure Sure wrote:
<quoted text>Here he goes again with all his secret information that no one ever gets to see or hear, is everyone inpressed?? Just like all the info he had foe sale, oops it's sold but it'll come out before election. NOTHING, then he had more info for sale, ect......
There is plenty of information that different people have. Betty has some, city officials have some, and others have some. Most of you wont see it because the people are scared to let it out. Some yes I sold, but it dont mean I didnt have copies of it. Some was posted online while some has been kept in a drawer. It is not secret info because many do know about it and have read or seen it but again they are scared. If the holders choose to display it then they can but I doubt most wont or even admit they have it. What info do you want to see and I will get it if I can to post. Emails, audio recordings, or what? Bottom line is that many are still lying in the city government or others are hiding the info for personal reasons. Eitherway I dont give a crap if you believe me or not because I have some info and you dont so I do know what is going on in many parts while others I dont. Some of the info could even lead to criminal charges or civil lawsuits and that is why some of it hasnt been put out to public.
MGrams

Waconia, MN

#45 Aug 19, 2012
rough wrote:
<quoted text>
it must really be hard, keeping up with all those recordings he has, don't you think. he probably has a library with nothing but recorded conversations he has had. sounds insecure and instable to me. lol
No cd's are easy to store.
arnett

United States

#46 Aug 19, 2012
I always thought it was illegal to record conversations without someone's permission????

I can't see why Sammy Kerr would tell you about his involvement with those issues when you said that he and Esters and were out by your home up to no good?

Anyway I think there were two different incidents against Betty and some others because I remembered it worded differently and remember someone taking the threats to the DA. I think mayor Bob Hunt can thank that woman and some of the others that he drank with at the Mexican places as part of the reason he lost so much support, obviously the officials at city hall were keeping secrets and letting officials break laws with all the pornography and sex phone lines and then when Esters got there all of it was exposed. I agree Esters brought as many problems as he helped the city, but Bob and Pam Hunt and the others hurt themselves the way they promoted and awarded every firefighter that harmed Zoeda and the way the city officiaks went to those bars and told all those lies about the others. I know I would rather be associated with someone who coaches little league and is a top church official like Adwell and Davidson rather than someone you meet on the internet whom was very disturbed that would make those kinda threats and alcoholics. You may not be a fan of the little leaguers and the church deacons MGrams, but if you shape a child at an early age with those activities, there's a great chance they will succeed in life without vandalizing homes, making meth, becoming an alcoholic, etc.

Dwayne Hatcher just slid in at the right time and exposed the weaknesses and all the illegal stuff from both sides, I just hope everything works out without the cliques. Esters won this war when you think about it because if he hadn't exposed the mess, cave city would still have all the incompetent officials. Bob, Pam, Moulder, the Scott's removal all because of Esters exposing them.
arnett

United States

#47 Aug 19, 2012
Grams I wish you would come clean about all the info you have someday because I will never forget what some of your buddies and this city did to my family and even though it's been a few years and some of the people that threatened and made false accusations against my family have moved away, I will never forget what happened, it will come out someday. Even though Cave City has changed leadership in every department, the officials and employees from the last 10 years will still be held accountable for the threats and lies you all made against us on multiple occasions.
A New Day

Glasgow, KY

#48 Aug 19, 2012
I am so glad that some of the poop has been cleaned out of Cave City. Good riddance to Bob and Pam. I am glad Todd Esters brought some of this crap to light. He had balls none of the others had. I hope whoever is elected to the mayors office will keep everything legal and above board. Crap smells and it has stunk in Cave City for far too long.
Mgrams

Waconia, MN

#49 Aug 19, 2012
It wasnt sammy who talked it was tommy the other brother and as well as one wife and aunt. So three from the same family talked about many things regarding betty and the group.

I dont know about any second incident just the one that threatened her with a jail cell. As far as telling lies at the restaurant...Were you in the conversations? If not then how do you know they were lies and not that the truth was coming out about some of the people. Many people keep secrets from friends and family...even their spouses. I dont care about the little leaguers but I also dont say anything about them. Same with the church deacons. I do call it like it is and the few you mention are liars and cons keeping secrets from others about their true actions. That is where my problem comes in. Hatcher didnt expose anything other than what most the city knew already. Esters my problem with him is the way he went about it all. He screwed up when he and the others started releasing my SS and DL numbers then when he came stalking me and my family. That is when he deserved what he got and his family was in the middle. I guess he should have thought about his actions and what could become of them.

To the other...They are not and were not mu buddies. As I said most of them I only spoke with at city hall when working on the security and pc systems. They will never be held accountable because people are scared to stand up to certain people. Look how long many have known houchens didnt live in the city limits. And today they still let him slide by. I have posted info about many people and the truth about their actions but most dont want to believe it because the person is involved with the church, schools, or have more money than most. I couldnt believe the corruption in the area when I first learned about the different dealings going on. But it was true. Most who are crooked are skating by because they have friends in more places than just cc.
Mgrams

Waconia, MN

#50 Aug 19, 2012
Here I will let you all in on a secret kept by bob,pam,hatcher,houchens, and at least donny. All cameras at city hall never had audio, a few years before I left 1 camera was placed in the council chambers with audio allowing anything in the room to be listened to. The camera is located in the corner above the hallway door and runs to the recording system and tv in the pd main office. This was oked by hunts at the time but was known and listened to by the others at different times. When you pull up the camera system that camera is hidden from view unless you can pull the recordings up. Now if it is still working and hooked up the way it was then the audio is still being recorded regularly. The officers dont know about it other than it was oked by hunt. Unless they were told about it. Either way it isnt illegal but kind of unethical on the councils part who knew about it.
To the other person who stated recordings being illegal without permission. It is 100% legal to record any conversation in a public place because public means no expectation of privacy. Also it is legal to record anyone on the phone or in person as long as at least 1 party involved knows the conversation is being recorded. Using equipment like what betty has is illegal. Use of a amplified microphone to easedrop on a person from a distance without being a part of the conversation is illegal. Yes betty I know about your directional mic. your family again told on you.
Now with city hall it is a security system and a public place. Signs are posted as to the cameras being installed therefore it is legal. These cameras are no longer viewable over the internet which they were to begin with. When some equipment was changed a setting was never setup to allow it again.
Here it is

Cave City, KY

#52 Aug 22, 2012
To Mark:
My Name Is GOSSIP or POLITICS

I have no respect for justice. I maim without killing.
I break hearts and ruin lives. I am cunning malicious and gather strength with age.
The more i am quoted the more i am believed.
I flourish at every level of society.
My victims are helpless.
They cannot protect themselves against me because i have no name and no face.
To track me down is impossible.
The harder you try the more elusive i become.
I am nobody's friend. Once i tarnish a reputation it is never the same.
I topple governments and wreck marriages.
I ruin careers and cause sleepsless nights heartaches and indigestion.
I spawn suspicion and generate grief.
I make innocent people cry in their pillows. Even my name hisses.
MGrams

Waconia, MN

#53 Aug 22, 2012
Here it is wrote:
To Mark:
My Name Is GOSSIP or POLITICS
I have no respect for justice. I maim without killing.
I break hearts and ruin lives. I am cunning malicious and gather strength with age.
The more i am quoted the more i am believed.
I flourish at every level of society.
My victims are helpless.
They cannot protect themselves against me because i have no name and no face.
To track me down is impossible.
The harder you try the more elusive i become.
I am nobody's friend. Once i tarnish a reputation it is never the same.
I topple governments and wreck marriages.
I ruin careers and cause sleepsless nights heartaches and indigestion.
I spawn suspicion and generate grief.
I make innocent people cry in their pillows. Even my name hisses.
Sounds like the truth can hurt also......So it should be named Gossip,Politics, or the Truth
Here it is

Cave City, KY

#54 Aug 23, 2012
No, people don't usually spread truth that much. They tell once or twice then let it go.
Gossip and Politics are never the truth. It's always destroying or telling lies. Folks who tell the truth have jobs and keep occupied and don't have to be afraid because of covering, hiding etc.

It's just time for this junk to cease and stop repeating the same ole stuff. Some of your statements can be proven but won't.
MGrams

Waconia, MN

#56 Aug 23, 2012
Here it is wrote:
No, people don't usually spread truth that much. They tell once or twice then let it go.
Gossip and Politics are never the truth. It's always destroying or telling lies. Folks who tell the truth have jobs and keep occupied and don't have to be afraid because of covering, hiding etc.
It's just time for this junk to cease and stop repeating the same ole stuff. Some of your statements can be proven but won't.
Hmm...Hypocritical I would say. The same old song has been going on about others continously. The posters claim it to be truth but continue saying the same thing over and over. Maybe when the opposing side or the ones who are still lying let up or come clean then I will also. I agree it is time to end it all but as you can see there are still a few bad apples in the bunch. I agree that some will cover up the truth because they are scared it will hurt their friend or the persons reputation. Frankly I dont care who it hurts as long as I am telling the truth. If you want it to stop then someone better vote right at the elections or it will still go on and on for at least a few more years.
Just more BS

Glasgow, KY

#57 Aug 24, 2012
MGrams wrote:
<quoted text>
No I didnt lie..I said I would be gone when ALL the property is sold. When that happens you can have your little city to yourself. Your an idiot if you dont understand that I live with my wife and children also known as my family...Other family members own property there also but I am only getting rid of what we (wife and I) have or are part owners of. So I dont know where you get hypocrit and liar from it all. I have been nice about the posts on here but wont sit back and watch a bunch of people who think they know what was going on slander others when the people they support are just as crooked, liars, theives, and drug users/dealers. It apears that many are scared to stand up to people like houchens, davidsons, and others in power.
Yes YOU lied, You never intended to sell the all the land just so YOU can say " I own land there". You'll sell everything but 1 sf. so YOU can always be here.
nan

Glasgow, KY

#58 Aug 24, 2012
But how much money was taken?

Is that shown on camera?

How long before tapes are recorded over?
MGrams

Waconia, MN

#59 Aug 24, 2012
Just more BS wrote:
<quoted text>Yes YOU lied, You never intended to sell the all the land just so YOU can say " I own land there". You'll sell everything but 1 sf. so YOU can always be here.
Whatever that is why so far we have sold to different places. Just cause the 3rd isnt sold dont mean I lied. Your about ignorant when you assume. Dont sound so scared that something will be said about you.
Perry

United States

#60 Oct 13, 2012
Who is the write in candidate there keeping secret?
crookshank

Glasgow, KY

#61 Oct 13, 2012
Bubba Bob
Newton

United States

#62 Oct 15, 2012
It's not a sure bet Hatcher will win, if Bob Hunt and Harold Bennett file as write ins next week, one of them could get elected if everyone assumes Hatcher is unapposed.
last time

Cave City, KY

#63 Oct 16, 2012
Naaaaaah! Write ins waste their time.

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