County's Sunnyside Farm deal in limbo

A letter to seek judgment on the reversal of a land purchase has been drafted, according to Luna County Manger John Sutherland, but further details are in the dark.

[catch it]

This should no doubt ease the minds of everyone here. Donna Irwin admits that "WE" negotiated in good faith.

My left nut.

You sold us Arsnic tainted water! ANd you did knowing it was tainted!

I enjoyed the line about "Bringing the Commission up to speed"... In other words shut the f*ck up and let me have my money or I'll sick Santa Fe on you Commissioners.

Power corupts...absolutly... doesn't it Donna?

Suckered by a lill' old lady who peddles lolipops on the side...

I wonder who caused the financial mess we are in? Wow since the Demoncrats are teh only ones in power in NEw MExico since State hood in 1912... it MUST BE THE DEMONCRATS!

VOTE REPUBLICAN, 2010, 2012, 2016, and 2020.

[PT Barnum]

Never Give a Sucker an Even Break, your left nut?
I'm amazed you have any nuts left, Look Man here
come the Demoncrats, with Donna Irwin riding a
broomstick and waving a lollipop, Run for your Life!

[Quit NOW donna]

I wonder if dear, sweet little old hag Donna knew of the arsenic? I wonder if Scotty "It's a sin" Vinson knew of it? Who else knew of the arsenic?

Either way...DONNA

YOU ARE FIRED!

Vote no against fake profiteers who do not care one iota about the community of Deming/Luna!

[LegalBeagle]

UH,Oh! Dona Irwin said...."We signed it.."

Better Lawyer-Up, Dona and Craig! You're playing in a different ballgame now with this current Commission and a much wiser (and ethical) County Manager. This could turn out to be a long, legal journey for this "contract."

These Commissioners are showing some RESPONSIBILITY, finally!

[signhere]

Why would any one purchase water rights in any quantity with out having a clear record as to the condition of the water they are purchasing? If there was no mention of this as a condition of the sale is it buyer be ware? A purchase of this size should have had a certification of the suitability of the water for drinking purposes. The testing should have been done prior to the signing of the paper work. This works much like a home inspection or title insurance.
The County is trying to protect water contamination by increasing the Deming Ranchettes lot sizes, but they purchase water rights with out documentation of the waters safety for drinking.

[crackers n jam]

Irwin owns a lot more than 600 acreas of water rights when this farm was sold. She sold only the water that wasnt worth a cr*p.

There was a reason why she and her boy sold only THOSE 600 acres... SEPCIFICALLY those 600...

Does anyone else wonder why she sold those 600?

Or are you all still smokin' too many free lolipops you got from the lill' ol' gray haired lady at the bank when you were 12 has your brain cloudy?...

[Deming-ite]

I'm not sure if it's usually done this way,or if I'm even reading this right, but wouldn't one test the water FIRST before any contracts are drawn up and signed ? The way I read it these dealings went on in 2007, both tests done in 2008, then the trouble started.

Dona Irwin stated they did this in "good faith", but it would make her and her son look better, knowing now the water's tainted, to walk away from the deal and forget about it. Hope they find a loop hole or something in order to rescind this.

[bertine]

Since it has already been done, then it is a DONE DEAL. There is no way to undo dirty, corrupt or just plain ignorant deals done in Luna County. Like the $658,000 for astro turf. You are safe Donna.

[thievnBiatchh]

Give the money back. Situation solved. Save face you old bit*h. Maybe I'll vote for you again if you do...

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[Betsy]

Great job to the county manager for seeing thru Donna Irwin. I hope he is able to sue her for what she did to the county.

[GoodEnergy]

OK....crackers n jam...Why did they sell ONLY those 600 acres---in your opinion? How big was/is the farm, anyway?

[GoodEats]

GoodEnergy wrote:

OK....crackers n jam...Why did they sell ONLY those 600 acres---in your opinion? How big was/is the farm, anyway?

I'd say the Irwins sold those 600 because that was the only 600 acres that they owned that wasn't farmable anymore or the crop production was so poor they couldn't make a living off it if the Irwins farmed it...and I'd say the reason for the poor producing was because...

ARSNIC was in the water. Or maybe even other high metal content in the water or even over florination perhaps? These 600 arces sat dormit for years as Bert didn't plow them for years...and there was a reason for that...

Take a trip down Columbus way, to the East and North... Plenty of "vacant farm lands" that have sat untilled for years...

Someone please tell me... someone like a "educated" farmer in the area... If arsnic levels in water are high... can acidic water raise a good quality crop? Anyone out there know that answer? I mean with the USA quality controls set so high even on cotton crops, I have heard that the gins will turn away some farmers cotton because it will not meet the cotton gins requiremnts...? That... and name me a "GOOD" rancher that would purchase feed from a gin when the ginned seeds and feed has arsnic levels that are not fit for human consumption?

Somehow I dont think that feeding arsnic tainted feed to livestock is going to have a positive impact on the end consumer either... like people?

Think outside the box... And as far as how much land Donna and Son own... Just go to the county assesors office... You might be suprised, unless the "Irwins" have now hidden their assets through third party investors and such...

[GoodEats]

And just so those of you with a very VERY short attention span,

The current 1st lady of the UNITED STATES PRESIDENCY...MS. Michelle OBAMA, was growing a garden in the backyard of the White House.

Nobel it was, as she was giving the food grown away to the local charities...

Until...

it was discovered that ARSNIC levels in the ground were not beneficial or fit for human consumption...

Think about that... next time you vote for DEMON Crat Donna IRWIN...

[hmmmm i wonder]

GoodEats wrote:

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I'd say the Irwins sold those 600 because that was the only 600 acres that they owned that wasn't farmable anymore or the crop production was so poor they couldn't make a living off it if the Irwins farmed it...and I'd say the reason for the poor producing was because...
ARSNIC was in the water. Or maybe even other high metal content in the water or even over florination perhaps? These 600 arces sat dormit for years as Bert didn't plow them for years...and there was a reason for that...
Take a trip down Columbus way, to the East and North... Plenty of "vacant farm lands" that have sat untilled for years...
Someone please tell me... someone like a "educated" farmer in the area... If arsnic levels in water are high... can acidic water raise a good quality crop? Anyone out there know that answer? I mean with the USA quality controls set so high even on cotton crops, I have heard that the gins will turn away some farmers cotton because it will not meet the cotton gins requiremnts...? That... and name me a "GOOD" rancher that would purchase feed from a gin when the ginned seeds and feed has arsnic levels that are not fit for human consumption?
Somehow I dont think that feeding arsnic tainted feed to livestock is going to have a positive impact on the end consumer either... like people?
Think outside the box... And as far as how much land Donna and Son own... Just go to the county assesors office... You might be suprised, unless the "Irwins" have now hidden their assets through third party investors and such...

might be interesting to check out the terms on the grant through usda that the irwins seem to get every year for growing somthing that just don't seem to grow. a recent overheard quote was if it don't germinate we don't have to water it, they never check anyway. don't think that was the idea behind the grants given out. but seeing as how irwins wife seems to be working at the local office, i bet nobody ever checks on these grants. might just be very interesting to go to the state level and ask for an audit of some of these grants. would this be fraud? just somthing i heard, may not be true. but it sure do sound about right, don't cha think? ask the pilot that spreads the seeds, he might know all about it. heck, he might even be involved, if this is true.

[annoyed]

When a buyer goes into a purchase, it is their job to do all the tests. I would think if the county was going to buy this property specifically for the water, that they would taken the time to make sure the water was Suitable. If these precautions had been taken, then the county could have found the problem before now, and there would be no issue. It seems to me that it was the county's lack of thought that caused this problem.

[Get the facts]

catch it wrote:

This should no doubt ease the minds of everyone here. Donna Irwin admits that "WE" negotiated in good faith.
My left nut.
You sold us Arsnic tainted water! ANd you did knowing it was tainted!
I enjoyed the line about "Bringing the Commission up to speed"... In other words shut the f*ck up and let me have my money or I'll sick Santa Fe on you Commissioners.
Power corupts...absolutly... doesn't it Donna?
Suckered by a lill' old lady who peddles lolipops on the side...
I wonder who caused the financial mess we are in? Wow since the Demoncrats are teh only ones in power in NEw MExico since State hood in 1912... it MUST BE THE DEMONCRATS!
VOTE REPUBLICAN, 2010, 2012, 2016, and 2020.

how do you know that she KNEW the water was tainted? Maybe you should have some proof to back up your comments. It was the county's responsibility to test the water. You would think that would be a BIG part of buying property soley for the water rights...but looks like they dropped the ball, and now they are trying to back peddle.

[Whiny Winny Puff]

No matter what the reason, the alleged deception has been found out. SALE IS NOW NULL IN VOID DUE TO ALLEGATIONS OF FRAUD.

annoyed wrote:

When a buyer goes into a purchase, it is their job to do all the tests. I would think if the county was going to buy this property specifically for the water, that they would taken the time to make sure the water was Suitable. If these precautions had been taken, then the county could have found the problem before now, and there would be no issue. It seems to me that it was the county's lack of thought that caused this problem.

[Whiny Winny Puff]

Wrong. Did you know that if you sell you house and say the roof doesn't leak, and then when it sells, you the buyer can be held legally responsible? It was also the seller's responsibility to know what they were selling. Did the hag know? I don't know that. I do know that her name keeps coming up to defend people and transactions that are not in the best interests of the people of Deming. Which means it is time to vote her OFF THE ISLAND. Kidding, I don't watch reality shows, but I couldn't resist. People, your choice is clear: IMPEACHMENT NOW.

Get the facts wrote:

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how do you know that she KNEW the water was tainted? Maybe you should have some proof to back up your comments. It was the county's responsibility to test the water. You would think that would be a BIG part of buying property soley for the water rights...but looks like they dropped the ball, and now they are trying to back peddle.

[Farming for Years]

This is a response from a long time, educated farmer…from what was said above from one of the comments about the Irwin farm and the land in question: Most farms in Luna County have out ground which is land that is left out on a rotation crop basis. Mr. Irwin, for many years, did not farm that section of land due to the land not being level and the water seems to be in question which would lead to bad crops which would not make money.
The land lost its water rights and that is why it seems the airplane was seeding that section of the farm to try to trick the State Engineers office by saying the land is being farmed and the water rights should be transferred back to the area. The fields had no way of being watered because the land was unlevel and it sounds like there was no irrigation system. Chairman Diaz was stated that he had checked the wells while in the capacity as a Commissioner knew and tried to help with the misuse of County funds and it seems that is why he keeps abstaining yes or no on this issue. Hopefully the State Engineer’s office and Mr. Wattley did not get influenced or pressured by Donna Irwin, Commissioner Diaz, Scott Vinson and others that were involved in the misuse of County funds.

hmmmm i wonder wrote:

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might be interesting to check out the terms on the grant through usda that the irwins seem to get every year for growing somthing that just don't seem to grow. a recent overheard quote was if it don't germinate we don't have to water it, they never check anyway. don't think that was the idea behind the grants given out. but seeing as how irwins wife seems to be working at the local office, i bet nobody ever checks on these grants. might just be very interesting to go to the state level and ask for an audit of some of these grants. would this be fraud? just somthing i heard, may not be true. but it sure do sound about right, don't cha think? ask the pilot that spreads the seeds, he might know all about it. heck, he might even be involved, if this is true.

[Crooks]

This whole Irwin land deal was not only fruad, but a conspiracy to defruad. All involved need to charged,tried and convicted.

Farming for Years wrote:

This is a response from a long time, educated farmer…from what was said above from one of the comments about the Irwin farm and the land in question: Most farms in Luna County have out ground which is land that is left out on a rotation crop basis. Mr. Irwin, for many years, did not farm that section of land due to the land not being level and the water seems to be in question which would lead to bad crops which would not make money.
The land lost its water rights and that is why it seems the airplane was seeding that section of the farm to try to trick the State Engineers office by saying the land is being farmed and the water rights should be transferred back to the area. The fields had no way of being watered because the land was unlevel and it sounds like there was no irrigation system. Chairman Diaz was stated that he had checked the wells while in the capacity as a Commissioner knew and tried to help with the misuse of County funds and it seems that is why he keeps abstaining yes or no on this issue. Hopefully the State Engineer’s office and Mr. Wattley did not get influenced or pressured by Donna Irwin, Commissioner Diaz, Scott Vinson and others that were involved in the misuse of County funds.
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