North Tulsans Taking A Stand Against 'No Snitch' Culture

Tulsa police officers say more than 100 people saw Tony Verner dying in the parking lot of the Chicken Hut restaurant, 1500 East Apache. Full Story
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supermommy

Tulsa, OK

#1 Mar 2, 2010
Thank you, Jason, for speaking out on this issue and showing us that someone on the Northside is outraged and cares.

I'm still waiting on Northside leaders to speak up about this issue.

Good luck on painting the inside of the Community Center. I hope you get a lot of volunteers.
Stop

Beggs, OK

#2 Mar 2, 2010
My opinion ... if you know something and you do not tell ... your ass can fry too
not4me

Broken Arrow, OK

#3 Mar 2, 2010
The police should not even go on calls to the northside. Why help them when they won't even help themselves.
Wow

Tulsa, OK

#4 Mar 2, 2010
I hope some of the people who witnessed this shooting are reading this.

If you can walk around and feel good about yourself knowing you saw something then I feel sorry for you. Karma is real, and I hope NONE of you ever have to hear about YOUR family being shot with more than 100 people who won't give any tips. I HOPE that your family member isnt stepped over for some frickin chicken.

This is unreal. You are some sorry people, all of you. I dont mean black folk either, thats my family. I mean people who wont speak up. What part of anonymous is hard for you to understand?

Every single one of the people who know something, who stepped over this poor soul, who pushed EMSA to get some chicken, you will have paybacks in some form or another. The Lord will deal with you. Come judgment day what will you say?
Obvious

Tulsa, OK

#5 Mar 2, 2010
Come on people, get with the program.
Another Biker

Tulsa, OK

#6 Mar 2, 2010
Did we not learn anything from Dr. Martin Luther King? To respect another person is to respect yourself. No wonder North Side has problems with gangs and crime, the hundred or so people are scared of those bad guys. I think you forget sometimes who you are and what you mean to others....as well as our Creator...God help you, because you are not helping yourselves.
C-Diddy

United States

#7 Mar 2, 2010
Nice reporting news on 6. When did impeading an investigation become a way of culture. Crappy excuse if you aske me. The don't snitch crap is just an excuse for these people to maintain their lazy and lawless ways. It's a crime to withhold information however they would be busy rounding up all those homies it would defeat the purpose. They don't care about who gets murdered as long as they can get their chicken and still manage to stay out of jail themselves. That's how they are raised by their banger counter parts since their families obviously do a piss poor job of raising them.
catfish

Tulsa, OK

#8 Mar 2, 2010
3:00 am in the morning.

below freezing temperatures.

100 people standing on a corner, it's a dang wonder that more people weren't gunned down (just for the fun of it).
rocksdale

Sapulpa, OK

#9 Mar 2, 2010
These people deserve no help at all...steppin over the victim to get their food. North side, we've known all along you guys are idiots but truly suck.
WTF

Tecumseh, OK

#10 Mar 2, 2010
DISGUSTING!
FRIED CHICKEN WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?
thod

AOL

#11 Mar 2, 2010
those people should put them self in the victims place. if your son or daugher is gunned down im sure you would want some one to come forward in information to arrest the one who did it so no one else would be gunned down.
IMHO

Tulsa, OK

#12 Mar 2, 2010
It becomes a way of culture when the majority of an area take on the same life values.

In this case, the are is North Tulsa and the culture is "No Snitch".

I find it interesting that they won't tell but then are outraged when their own family is effected and no one will tell either.

They just don't get it - nothing will change in their life or in their neighborhoods until they take a stand and change it.

Their kids will always be in danger so long as things stay the same. They can't change until people start being parents and responsible citizens.
snoozelwind

Tulsa, OK

#13 Mar 2, 2010
sad story,, how can this be? A man gets shot, A man lies on the ground dying in front of 100 hungry people there is no shock, there is no reaction, are you sure this is America?
greenwoodtribune

Broken Arrow, OK

#14 Mar 2, 2010
Letter to the editor: Don't don't tell

By J. Kavin Ross, Tulsa
Published: 2/20/2010 4:44 AM
Last Modified: 2/20/2010 4:44 AM

I was saddened by the recent robbery of north Tulsa's newest neighbor, Gateway Market. But for one coward to incite the usual, predictable and negative comments, only justifies the attitudes that have stifled the growth of Tulsa north.

For decades north Tulsa has been economically deprived by design. With the lures of city leaders to the south and highly reported crime rates, potential businesses have refused to come north.

With the failed negotiations with the police union and more than 100 laid-off police officers, my biggest fear is that our beloved city will soon become as wild as the infamous Dodge City.

Mayor Dewey Bartlett's stance on the robbery gave me hope: "We're going to make an example of that individual because this store cannot be dealt with in that way. Period, not going to happen."

People who know something about this crime must not practice a "don't ask, don't tell" policy. If we do, we need not get angry when the media talk ill of north Tulsa when crime occurs. We should tell.

If we continue the practice of saying nothing, we will always get what we have — nothing.

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/opinion/article.asp...
ego trypin

Broken Arrow, OK

#15 Mar 2, 2010
keep your racist rants to yourself. This will no doubt make national news
Albertsons

Broken Arrow, OK

#16 Mar 2, 2010
Well said Mr. Ross!
Farmergrl

Novelty, OH

#17 Mar 2, 2010
Wow wrote:
I hope some of the people who witnessed this shooting are reading this.
If you can walk around and feel good about yourself knowing you saw something then I feel sorry for you. Karma is real, and I hope NONE of you ever have to hear about YOUR family being shot with more than 100 people who won't give any tips. I HOPE that your family member isnt stepped over for some frickin chicken.
This is unreal. You are some sorry people, all of you. I dont mean black folk either, thats my family. I mean people who wont speak up. What part of anonymous is hard for you to understand?
Every single one of the people who know something, who stepped over this poor soul, who pushed EMSA to get some chicken, you will have paybacks in some form or another. The Lord will deal with you. Come judgment day what will you say?
Very well said. I agree with all my heart. I pray God will bless the family having to go through all this.
Lilo

Tulsa, OK

#18 Mar 2, 2010
This is SOOOO SAD! I'm sure some of the North side Tulsans that were at that restaurant the night of the shooting probably get angry about how they are stereotyped as thugs, robbers, killers, and just bad people who don't care about anyone. Seriously, this REALLY reinforces the stereotypes that already exist in people's minds about that area of town. I did think that North Tulsa had lots of crime and citizens that do not follow laws, but I NEVER would of thought that it was that bad! This is really a problem. I'm sure not EVERYONE in North Tulsa is a criminal, but it seems the stereotypes are true about the vast majority.
Lana

Tulsa, OK

#19 Mar 2, 2010
Northside leaders, we need you!!! Church leaders, business owners... everyone should band together and take a stand against the "no snitch" culture!!! It will not end unless the people of North Tulsa band together to fight such injustice! I feel so sorry for this young man and his family!
Rebel

Wichita, KS

#20 Mar 2, 2010
I feel so bad for these people. This man needed help, and it was prevented over food. No snitch out of fear for your own life is a cowardly way out. If you stand up for this man, stand up for all the other victims, you can put these people you fear of behind bars. The more we get these guys behind bars, the safer you will feel north Tulsa. Stand up for the truth. These two men mentioned in this story deserve respect. I pray they rest in peace, and the families know that they are safe in heaven.

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