BREAKING NEWS: Pedestrian Killed After Being Struck By Catoosa Poli...

One person is dead after a Catoosa Police officer struck and killed a pedestrian in Friday morning. Full Story
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traycek

Weatherford, OK

#253 Jun 6, 2010
I don't understand why everyone is so interested in placing blame. Besides thinking of the police officer, we will be and have been thinking of & praying for Jamie's family. Her grandparents recently buried their daughter, and now are burying their granddaughter. Jamie also has a sister that is absolutely torn up about this. It is a tragedy all the way around, for the policeman & for Jamie's family. And let's not forget about the gentleman that was walking with her, I'm sure this has been a nightmare for him as well. May God bring something good from this horrible event.
Rest In Peace Sweet Jamie.
traycek

Weatherford, OK

#254 Jun 6, 2010
unmotivated31 wrote:
<quoted text> He also could have killed you and your children on the way....more than 80% of the time law enforcement are there after the fact, protect yourself, you do have that right!
More speculation. The reports I've seen said the policeman was not on a call."What if's" aren't going to change the fact that a child is dead, and peoples lives have been deeply affected.
poser

Collierville, TN

#255 Jun 6, 2010
traycek wrote:
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More speculation. The reports I've seen said the policeman was not on a call."What if's" aren't going to change the fact that a child is dead, and peoples lives have been deeply affected.
I agree, my comments weren't related to this story, just trying to make a point about relying on the police to protect you.
just me

Memphis, TN

#256 Jun 6, 2010
Yoy know everyone on heres lives have been affected in one way or another from this or we would'nt be on here. Law officials make mistakes like everybody else...hello their human, and nobody knows why the subject was with Jamie. It is sad for both the officer involved, the Officer's at the Police Department, the officers that responded, Jamies family, friends, and the man that witnessed the tragedy. As far as people putting pety comments on here just to comment get a life one day this may be your family, and Im sure you won't want to be reading stupid bs that some idiot just wants to post just to post. I too have lost a loved one through a tragic accident but I assure you the last thing I wanted to do was hear, read, or see anything blaming people for the accident or discuss what COULD HAVE happend...I am sorry for all of your losses and I will pray for all parties involved....
Okieboy

Broken Arrow, OK

#257 Jun 6, 2010
lookathim wrote:
<quoted text> Maybe he was on his way to a home invasion or something of that sort. I bet if it was your wife or child being raped you would feel differently about how fast he should be going to get there to help them. 70, 80 or even 90 probably would not be fast enough for you.
The proper approach to that quandary would be to tell them, "take your time, the body will still be here waiting for you." Remember, when seconds count, the cops are only minutes away.

When asked, "why do you carry a .45?" I reply, "Because a cop is too heavy to carry around!"
relieved

Wichita, KS

#258 Jun 7, 2010
unmotivated31 wrote:
<quoted text> He also could have killed you and your children on the way....more than 80% of the time law enforcement are there after the fact, protect yourself, you do have that right!
Of course they are there after the fact, you normally can't call in a crime until AFTER it happens, correct? You can't call and say, I have a feeling something bad is going to happen to me in 15 minutes, can you please send an officer. As soon as someone places their hands on you in a violent way, the assault has already started. As soon as someone breaks down your door, it has already started.
When I called TPD, to tell them the man I had a restraining order on was at my house, they were there in 5 minutes, which I have to say was great timing. Unfortuantly in that 5 minutes I was assaulted by the man, but they were there to arrest him and haul him off to jail and attend to me. I thought one cop was ready to knock him around because he was being out of control. I wish he would have.
FEDup

Murfreesboro, TN

#259 Jun 7, 2010
RLS wrote:
The highway patrolman was either incorrect, did not know (and he should have), or was deliberately mis-speaking when he said that the vehicle had the "right of way." The Oklahoma Driver's Manual, revised 2008 clearly states on page 6-2 under the bold typed heading: "You Must Always Yield" that vehicles are supposed to yield to pedestrians "crossing the roadway..." If he was deliberately mis-speaking then it may be because he is just helping to set the cover for another officer and in that case I wouldn't expect any real investigation.
Are you serious? "Crossing the roadway" does NOT mean WALKING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD or running in front of a moving vehicle. I am quite sure the office was doing his darnedest to "yield" to these pedestrians. I am wondering what this 16 year old girl was doing walking down the middle of a Catoosa street at 5:00 in the morning... with a 54 year old man. There are a lot of unanswered questions here but ultimately the blame falls on the pedestrians for being where they should not have been. They were NOT paying attention, they were walking in an unsafe area, wearing dark clothing, and then the girl reacted incorrectly to the situation. Quite blaming this officer as this could have happened to any one of you cop haters. Remember - "But for the Grace of God go I."
relieved

Wichita, KS

#260 Jun 7, 2010
unmotivated31 wrote:
<quoted text> I must have struck a nerve....i'm an idiot now huh? You lost the fight for your cause and proved me right that you're a childish ****......sad!
Oh you didn't strike a nerve at all. Sorry to disappoint you. Your an idiot to rather allow someone to victimize yourself and family than to call the police because you despise the police officers in this country. It is a sad shame!
I'm far from childish, just called you out on your immaturity and lack of intelligence.
One day you will be thankful for police, hopefully that day comes soon. What kind of example are you leading your children with if your telling them cops are bad. Now that sir..is sad!
IMHO

Tulsa, OK

#261 Jun 7, 2010
Pedestrians do have the right of way.

But they also have the responsibility of walking on the side of the road, crossing in a safe place, wearing clothing that makes them visible.

This girl failed to do that and I am sorry for her family. She made a mistake that cost her life.

No matter how much you hate the police - you can't blame her mistakes on him.
OkieOne

Murfreesboro, TN

#262 Jun 7, 2010
Mother wrote:
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The sun WAS up. Sunrise was well before this tragedy. The OHP statement is factually wrong, misleading, and you can verify that with the NWS.
As for a minor who lost both parents, is it a sin to look up to another adult as a father figure? Why do we assume everything is sexual?
http://www.sunrisesunset.com/calendar.asp
Friday, June 4, 2010 -- Sunrise: 6:07am
The sun was NOT up at 5:15 a.m. The sun is NEVER up at 5:15 a.m.

It is not normal or appropriate for a virtual stranger who is a 54 year old man to be walking around with a teenage girl at 5:00 in the morning FOR ANY REASON. What was the girl doing out at that time of morning IN CATOOSA when she lived in Broken Arrow? She had just met this man the night before, how could she possible look upon him as a father figure? She didn't know him. Why would a 54 year old man befriend a 16 year old girl that quickly? And why did he need her to go with him to "feed his dogs?" There is nothing about this story normal or appropriate and that is why many on here are making comments about it. Wake up and pull your head out of the sand.
OkieOne

Murfreesboro, TN

#263 Jun 7, 2010
jack wrote:
hmmm if it was dark, u can see head lights on the auto,i'm sorry to hear about a child's life ended this way,a parents worst nightmare.
Not if your back is turned. I'm sure neither pedestrian had eyes in the back of their heads.
Perch Jerker

Claremore, OK

#264 Jun 7, 2010
lookathim wrote:
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Do you have a point to this story, or are you just talking?
Evidently you didn't read my post; the policeman was not where the story stated he hit the teenage girl at 5:15 AM he was within 50 yards of the intersection of pine and 193rd walking around the patrol car. 250 to 350 yards make a big difference in the story.
Wow

Glen Ellyn, IL

#265 Jun 7, 2010
Perch Jerker wrote:
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Evidently you didn't read my post; the policeman was not where the story stated he hit the teenage girl at 5:15 AM he was within 50 yards of the intersection of pine and 193rd walking around the patrol car. 250 to 350 yards make a big difference in the story.
So you are saying that the policeman hit the teenager 50 yards from the intersection???? I've held my tounge in regards to all of the clearly ignorant comments but this one I just can't keep quiet about. Mr. Perch Jerker, go back to jerking on your perch somewhere else because you are way out in left field on this one. I realize you are just trying to stir the pot a little more and give the people on this forum something more to speculate about. But you can't be serious. Are you implying that they moved the entire accident scene? Or are you implying that all agencies involved lied about the location? It's laughable that you even took the time to post that statement. You could not be more wrong.
unmotivated31

United States

#266 Jun 8, 2010
relieved wrote:
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Oh you didn't strike a nerve at all. Sorry to disappoint you. Your an idiot to rather allow someone to victimize yourself and family than to call the police because you despise the police officers in this country. It is a sad shame!
I'm far from childish, just called you out on your immaturity and lack of intelligence.
One day you will be thankful for police, hopefully that day comes soon. What kind of example are you leading your children with if your telling them cops are bad. Now that sir..is sad!
Grow a set dude, be a man for once in your pathetic life. You got a restraining order against another man? I may not be as intelligent as you percieve yourself to be, but there will never, ever be a time in my life that I fear another man, nor will I hide behind the law scared for my life. You sir are a puss!
Annoyed

United States

#267 Jun 8, 2010
SHE WAS SIXTEEN YEARS OLD!!!!! You shouldn't judge people, i'm sure you've made a few mistakes in your life and you were lucky enough not to be killed.
Maybe try having some compassion for people...or you may pay the price for your own stupidity someday.
Happy Gilmore wrote:
Sorry...but if you're dumb enough to be walking in the MIDDLE of a main roadway in the dark and it's somewhat foggy(as reported earlier)...I don't have much sympathy for what may happen to you...and in this case, it caused a death and that was the ultimate price to pay for your stupidity.
Hope people learn a lesson from this.
Catoosa Parent

United States

#268 Jun 8, 2010
He was going 60 MPH down Pine Street!!! And that same day I was coming home from Walmart and another CPD decided to go around us because we were doing the posted speed limit (35 MPH), turned his lights on and proceeded to pass us. When we crested the hill by our home, guess what he had turned his lights off, I sure he was still hauling butt....Why can't we get rid of the crupt cops in our town???? Can Mayor Lampkin answer that???? Alot of empty promises on her part, won't be re-electing her...wait a minute I didn't even vote for her last time...
WonderWoman

Tahlequah, OK

#269 Jun 9, 2010
Mike wrote:
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Her parents are dead. Feel better?
Yes, her parents are. She was the ward of a servicemen, who has been out of the state for sometime, per the Tulsa World.

I know the service man,went to school with him, and let me tell you, we are all mourning the tragedy of loseing a beautiful, young girl. Please keep the family in your thoughts, he needs the support of his country, and she needs to be remembered as a beautiful, vibrant young girl who we lost too soon, by an -accident-.
Peter

Miami, OK

#270 Jun 29, 2010
relieved wrote:
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I have been assaulted and they police were wonderful down there in Tulsa. I couldn't have asked for better support. Up here in Wichita, my neighbor is KHP, another Sherrif and another Chief of Police, they are there anytime I need them.
It is sad that one bad experience makes people hate cops, some need to be put the empathy training, and if you were to complain to the Sgt over the officers who worked with your daughter, then maybe they will be put through proper training of rape victims. There are more great officers than those that are not. You have had the unfortuante experience of the bad ones. My family is all cops, and I wanted to be one myself, but decided to go into the medical field instead. though I still itch to be a cop, maybe the reserves.
It seems to me its always people like you WHO DON'T LIVE HERE OR ANYWHERE NEAR HERE that thinks we have the greatest police force. well sunshine when you decide to LIVE here and SEE it first hand I'll take your OPINION seriously.
Just Me

Jenks, OK

#271 Jun 29, 2010
Okieboy wrote:
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The proper approach to that quandary would be to tell them, "take your time, the body will still be here waiting for you." Remember, when seconds count, the cops are only minutes away.
When asked, "why do you carry a .45?" I reply, "Because a cop is too heavy to carry around!"
when asked why i carry a .45, My answer. "so you will have someone to hide behind."
Funny

Broken Arrow, OK

#272 Jun 30, 2010
Just Me wrote:
<quoted text> when asked why i carry a .45, My answer. "so you will have someone to hide behind."
Because they don't make a .46

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