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Letters to the Editor

There are 35 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Mar 13, 2008, titled Letters to the Editor. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

Slicing up rights no path to equality So it has come down to this? One person gets to determine what is on or "off the table" for our civil rights ? My children may get no legal parity because of a guy who ...

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#21 Mar 20, 2008
Chuck Anziulewicz wrote:
DEAR JOSEPH MELCHOR ("State can't redefine nature of marriage"):
That Gay couples seek to marry is not an attack on marriage. If anything it is an ENDORSEMENT of marriage, an acknowledgment that it far better to encourage couples toward monogamy and commitment, rather than relegating them to lives of loneliness and promiscuity.
Ask any Straight couple why they choose to marry. Their answer will not be, "We want to get married so that we can have sex and make babies!" That would be absurd, since couples do not need to marry to make babies, nor is the desire to make babies a prerequisite for obtaining a marriage license.
No, the reason couples choose to marry is to make a solemn declaration, before friends and family members, that they wish to make a commitment to one another's happiness, health, and well-being, to the exclusion of all others. Those friends and family members will subsequently act as a force of encouragement for that couple to hold fast to their vows.
THAT'S what makes marriage a good thing. Gay couples recognize that and support that. And those that want to prohibit Gay couples from marrying do so only because they don't want to allow Gay couples the opportunity to PROVE that they are up to the task.
For those who suggest that the issue of marriage is best left up to the states, it's important to remember that the federal government has a vested interest in married couples for the purposes of income taxes and Social Security benefits. From the fed's point of view, it wouldn't do for a couple to be considered married in one state, then magically "UN-married" once they decide to move somewhere else.
The fact remains that the term "marriage" does not occur in the Constitution of the United States. There is technically no "right" for any couple, Gay or Straight, to get married, at least as far as the federal government is concerned. And that is why, ultimately, the Supreme Court will have to address the issue of what constitutes a marriage, much as I'm sure they would prefer NOT to.
May I have your permission to quote your post to other people? Both on Topix and other places? You wrote a very eloquent post. And a technically sound one IMO
Please reply.

“I will not go quietly.”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis Indiana

#22 Mar 20, 2008
Jen wrote:
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Mike, you do have the right to object. It's called free speech. You do not, however, have the "right" to take away others' equal rights. You have confused apples and oranges. Let me help you. Compare the following 1. Your right to think and say aloud that black people are inferior and should not be allowed to attend U.S. universities WITH 2. Your "right" to have blacks not attend universities because you think they shouldn't.
Most often, many do not understand what "free speech" is, it has nothing to do with being able to say just anything. If that were the case there could never be a Perjury judgment, as slander/libel case, or anyone detained for making bomb/gun comments in an airport.
"Free Speech" comes with it's own "rules", the main of which being simply because you say something does not prohibit others from disputing it. If speaking causes harm, especially if it leads to physical harm, the speaker can be held into account for such speech. It's far past time that many are held accountable for their actions and words.

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#23 Mar 20, 2008
Mike Calo wrote:
People are very quick to claim the "right" of marriage of two same-sex people, and to its incumbent rights and protections for them.
I wonder if these people are so quick to defend others' right to object to these peoples' lifestyles - or is this going to turn out to be another "my rights are more important than your rights" situation?
I am gay. I am 50 Years Old. I lived in Balt. for 25 years. And I am HIV+. I once actually voted for Ronald Reagan even though I am a registered Democrat. I had a partner for 10 years till cancer took him. I am loved by some nieces and nephews and dispised by other family members. I was baptised a Methodist, then we went Presbyterian. At one time I was homeless and taught math to men in the Helping Up Mission there in Baltimore.

So what is MY lifestyle that you oppose? And what is the "gay lifestle" that frightens you so much?

Cpetr13

“Reality is better than truth”

Since: Jun 07

Indianapolis

#24 Mar 20, 2008
You know, I would never allow you or any other neocon to watch a pet while I was out of the room. You [people are always bringing up the "marrying the dog" argument, and i have to assume this is some fervent wish of yours.

Marriage is a legal contract. Dogs can't enter into such a contract--that's why Weatherwax signed lassie's contracts for years. Get a clue and maybe some therapy, bestialist.
Mike Brown wrote:
First it will be marriage of same sex couples. Then we will have people wanting to marry their pet Collie. Remember, we aren't allowed to discriminate in the affairs of others, or so the liberals tell us.

“I will not go quietly.”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis Indiana

#25 Mar 20, 2008
Cpetr13 wrote:
You know, I would never allow you or any other neocon to watch a pet while I was out of the room. You [people are always bringing up the "marrying the dog" argument, and i have to assume this is some fervent wish of yours.
Marriage is a legal contract. Dogs can't enter into such a contract--that's why Weatherwax signed lassie's contracts for years. Get a clue and maybe some therapy, bestialist.
<quoted text>
Isn't it strange? I love my pets, but I'm not IN love with them much less sexually interested...
Cori

Troy, MI

#26 Mar 20, 2008
JBF wrote:
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Was America founded as a Christian Nation? No.
The founding faith was NOT Christianity; and it was not secularism. It was religious liberty including the right to be an atheist.
Listen to Terry Gross interview Steven Waldman. About 39 minutes.
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Examining the Origins of America's "Founding Faith"
(Audio -- about 39 minutes)
http://www.npr.org/templates/player/mediaPlay...
Actually I would like to point out that the "Religious Freedoms" that were so necessary to to the first settlers were Puritans who thought that Europe was too liberal, and didn't agree with Church of England so they left here to persue a more moral society. Which is why they could hang you back then for being a witch.
Cindy

Manchester, MD

#27 Feb 5, 2012
In the end what it boils down to is faith. I don't support gay marriage or the gay lifestyle, not because I am a homophobe or bigot or any of the other names given to people who are non supporters of the gay movement, but because I believe that homosexuality is not God's perfect will for mankind. Does God love homosexuals? Of course he does. I believe Jesus died on the cross for ALL of mankind. The question is not does God love us, but do we love God? Do we love Him enough to read his instruction book, the Bible, and consider what He wants for us or what is best for us? Of course people who are proud pagans will not understand this. They will mock and make fun of this, but like I said, it is a matter of faith. The last time I checked, we were allowed to have religious freedom in this country. Since gay marriage has been consistently over turned when voted on by the public, it would seem that I am not alone in my faith.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#28 Feb 5, 2012
Cindy wrote:
In the end what it boils down to is faith. I don't support gay marriage or the gay lifestyle, not because I am a homophobe or bigot or any of the other names given to people who are non supporters of the gay movement, but because I believe that homosexuality is not God's perfect will for mankind. Does God love homosexuals? Of course he does. I believe Jesus died on the cross for ALL of mankind. The question is not does God love us, but do we love God? Do we love Him enough to read his instruction book, the Bible, and consider what He wants for us or what is best for us? Of course people who are proud pagans will not understand this. They will mock and make fun of this, but like I said, it is a matter of faith. The last time I checked, we were allowed to have religious freedom in this country. Since gay marriage has been consistently over turned when voted on by the public, it would seem that I am not alone in my faith.
Dear, you have every right to your religious beliefs, but by voting to deny those who would choose to marry someone of their same sex, you are voting to deny the religious freedom of others. What you are clearly failing to understand, is that while reading your "instruction book", you have chosen to believe that being homosexual and acting upon it is not part of "God's perfect will for mankind", others have read the very same instructions and come to the entirely opposite conclusion. Should those who believe that marriage for same sex couples is very much a part of "God's perfect will" do unto you as you have done unto them?

“I will not go quietly.”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis Indiana

#29 Feb 5, 2012
Cindy wrote:
In the end what it boils down to is faith. I don't support gay marriage or the gay lifestyle, not because I am a homophobe or bigot or any of the other names given to people who are non supporters of the gay movement, but because I believe that homosexuality is not God's perfect will for mankind. Does God love homosexuals? Of course he does. I believe Jesus died on the cross for ALL of mankind. The question is not does God love us, but do we love God? Do we love Him enough to read his instruction book, the Bible, and consider what He wants for us or what is best for us? Of course people who are proud pagans will not understand this. They will mock and make fun of this, but like I said, it is a matter of faith. The last time I checked, we were allowed to have religious freedom in this country. Since gay marriage has been consistently over turned when voted on by the public, it would seem that I am not alone in my faith.
Bigotry is bigotry regardless as to whether or not you choose to hold it as part of "faith" or any other deep seated belief.
What your God "wants" is both open to interpretation depending on who is reading it, as well as being irrelevant as this country was not founded upon a religion but the belief that everyone is free to believe in and practice their religions without having those rights impinged upon by the Government(with the exception that those beliefs/practices do not themselves impinge upon the rights of others).
Your "faith" is only relevant in that it shows why YOU should not be homosexual according to YOUR personal interpretation, Gay marriage itself should not be voted on under any circumstances in the exact same way that interracial marriage should never have been voted on in the first place, Our system of Government is set up on the Principle of Checks and Balances to make sure that the rights of the Minority are never overrun by the Tyranny of the Majority, to claim that same-sex marriage should be denied merely because of the "faith" of some individuals creates a system of oppression, it is not your or anyone else's place to claim the right to decide for others what faith they must follow or press into law faith-based beliefs which ignore the beliefs of the other individuals who do not agree with your own, doing so makes your Beliefs on par with those of the Taliban.
newcomer

United States

#30 Feb 6, 2012
Can you get in legal trouble for sending porn link to another adult in one of the forums?
Thank you!

“I will not go quietly.”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis Indiana

#31 Feb 6, 2012
newcomer wrote:
Can you get in legal trouble for sending porn link to another adult in one of the forums?
Thank you!
YES.
newcomer

United States

#32 Feb 6, 2012
Pagan and Proud wrote:
<quoted text>YES.
Is it serious, felony, can you be arrested?
Thanks!

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#33 Feb 6, 2012
Cindy wrote:
In the end what it boils down to is faith. I don't support gay marriage or the gay lifestyle, not because I am a homophobe or bigot or any of the other names given to people who are non supporters of the gay movement, but because I believe that homosexuality is not God's perfect will for mankind. Does God love homosexuals? Of course he does. I believe Jesus died on the cross for ALL of mankind. The question is not does God love us, but do we love God? Do we love Him enough to read his instruction book, the Bible, and consider what He wants for us or what is best for us? Of course people who are proud pagans will not understand this. They will mock and make fun of this, but like I said, it is a matter of faith. The last time I checked, we were allowed to have religious freedom in this country. Since gay marriage has been consistently over turned when voted on by the public, it would seem that I am not alone in my faith.
I hope you will take the time to read this article. It's 3 pages but worth it. And I hope it will convince you to re-examine your soul.

Iím Christian, unless youíre gay
http://www.easttennessean.com/i-m-christian-u...

“I will not go quietly.”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis Indiana

#34 Feb 6, 2012
newcomer wrote:
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Is it serious, felony, can you be arrested?
Thanks!
That depends on how far the issue is taken. If someone has a lawyer and pursues it, maybe, but it's doubtful.Usually it just gets you banned from the forum.
newcomer

United States

#35 Feb 6, 2012
Pagan and Proud wrote:
<quoted text>That depends on how far the issue is taken. If someone has a lawyer and pursues it, maybe, but it's doubtful.Usually it just gets you banned from the forum.
I love you, thanks a million ...it wouldn't happen again...

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