Catasauqua school tax going up to pay...

Catasauqua school tax going up to pay for Sheckler renovation

There are 61 comments on the The Morning Call story from Jun 12, 2009, titled Catasauqua school tax going up to pay for Sheckler renovation. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

The Catasauqua Area School Board has approved a $27.1 million 2009-10 budget that includes a 4 percent tax increase to pay for renovating Sheckler Elementary School.

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Storm

Catasauqua, PA

#41 Aug 13, 2009
fed up wrote:
To Storm, I do not see an increased enrollment in the district, how can that be? We are landlocked, remember? As they cannot build a new school in Catasauqua, nor can there be any more new houses in the borough, either. No new houses, no new residents in borough, they just bought townhouses on Lenape Circle, and houses on Race Street, which are knocked down. The townhouses on Willowbrook never happened, where is the increased enrollment? From Allentown moving in on Front St., they move in and out so fast.
Ok, now let me get this straight. The only reason you build a new school is becasue the enrollment increases. Could it be that the Lincoln Building being 100 years old had something to do with this? The new high school wasn't built with space for increased enrollment, it was built to fill the needs of the current enrollment. Catty graduate 120 kids in 1964 (Larry Miller's class)and 125 kids last year. So in 45 years the graduating number haven't changed much. So what is the surprise. The new high school was not built with extra classrooms to take care of the overflow of kids in 2020. Wake up.

As far as new homes are concerned, in South Catty a new development was built behind Tioga St.- 20 homes. In North Catty, Wyandotte St. was added with about 8 homes. In North Catty, Keglovits has put up homes in every empty lot. A new apt. building is being built off Howertown Road. The North Catty high rise was built and when seniors moved there, their houses became avaialble for families with kids. Since you are going back to the townhouses that were stopped by the airport, I can add, Allendale Apt. and the aprt. at the top of Troxel St. in hanover Township. Across the street from Sheckler, 5 homes are now there and land is for sale for an additonal four homes. However, the biggest growth comes in terms of commerce from the businesses in Hanover Township. Landlocked it is, but Catty has increased in the number of units from the days of Larry Miller.
TAX DOLLARS AT WORK

Easton, PA

#42 Aug 13, 2009
Sounds like storm is one of the slumlords in catty that just wants to suck money from sec 8 housing and not give back!
Storm

Catasauqua, PA

#43 Aug 13, 2009
TAX DOLLARS AT WORK wrote:
Sounds like storm is one of the slumlords in catty that just wants to suck money from sec 8 housing and not give back!
No I am not. I want to get the facts straight. The two posters were misinformed and needed to be educated. I am not a "slumlord". What I wrote shows the difficulty you have in reading. I spoke about all the homes being built in Catty but that has nothing to do with Sec. 8 housing. So why did you respond to this post when you having noth relevant to say.
TAX DOLLARS AT WORK

Easton, PA

#44 Aug 13, 2009
Storm wrote:
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No I am not. I want to get the facts straight. The two posters were misinformed and needed to be educated. I am not a "slumlord". What I wrote shows the difficulty you have in reading. I spoke about all the homes being built in Catty but that has nothing to do with Sec. 8 housing. So why did you respond to this post when you having noth relevant to say.
Because I've been down front st in catty and see the buildings in unfit condition and being rented to people that tried to get out of allentown but it has followed??????????
resident

Allentown, PA

#45 Aug 13, 2009
Tired of it is correct, many parents have volunteered to go on the trips and had their small groups of students, the teachers had none. Go read the Catty Press from today,$300,000 for the stop light at Bullshead and Race due to the bussing from the new high school. Check out the new parking lot in the same edition with the new parking lot at the middle school, The high school couldn't have been put there? Just a suggestion. Yes, thanks to Hanover Township with taxes, or Catty would be up the creek. I just hope the airport does not buy out more houses, or Catty will be surely down the tube. I know many parents who volunteered their time with trips, not one teacher had their group of children. Kids today think trips are a day out of school, not a learning experience. Going to a Broadway trip is not educational, just a day out of school, just like Knoebel's.
Storm

Catasauqua, PA

#46 Aug 13, 2009
resident:

I sent this to Tired of it but obviously you did not read it. Here it is again.

Tired of it:

How old are you? You sound about 75 -80. You said, Nobody wanted the new school. I say you are totally wrong. 5 people on the board wanted it but they also represented a large number of people who also wanted a new school. Many people voiced their opposition to the school but many voiced the need for the school and since there is no room in Catty, it was placed where it is today. The statement that "nobody wanted the new school" is toally false and lacks accuracy.

By the way, I graduated in the mid 60s and to this day remember my class trip to Washington DC including my visit to the White House, the Washington Monument, and the many museums that made an impact on me. Why should we deny the kids today from taking these trips? I know- becasue of the ridiculous statement that parents do the work and the teachers walk around all day. Oh God, your age is showing.

The statement, we pay their salary, is totally incorrect. A school Board member (501 districts) has never received a paycheck from the district. Now where did you get that information from. I bet you sit at the Catty Pool and hear all this misinformation from your buddies. Just keep giving the information and I will keep correcting you.

You also talked about taxes going sky high- do you realize how much money the district receives from Hanover Township. If it wasn't for Hanover Township and the vision that those people have to see beyond thir noses, your taxes would triple. Support your local township, shop at the new mall and buy you new wardrobe at Target.

Resident

Let me correct you- the teachers asked for parents to volunteer. They did and you, not them, have the problem. Also, as a matter of law, the teachers were responsible for all the kids and the parents. In most cases the parents had a group of kids with their own children and a few of the children's friends. They liked the fact that their parents were along and doing the chaperoning. This is so stupid I will not write anymore on this subject.

So the Catty High School has cost the district and taxpayers $300,000 for a stop light. Now let me see if I understand this one. Three buses use this road per day. 5000 cars use this road also. I guess you are correct- heck why argue with things that do not make sense. You are absolutely right. Since the high school will be opened for the "frist time in its existence", those lights should be in immediately. I should change you name to Duh- the school has been there four years going into its fifth year. I think it is about time the state, county, townbship get off their behinds and put in a light for buses, trucks, cars, motorcycles, horses, etc. I cannot believe you lumped CHS into the cost of the light.

What 'edition" am I checking out on the parking lot of the middle school. The high school could not have been built there. That was studied as was the land at the golf course, as was the land across from Sheckler, as was the field where the new holes for Willowbrook are located. Ask Mr. Fuller why he did not give up the driving range for the new school. Instead he suggested the piece of land that is now called Catty High.

If you are so worried about taxses and a 300,000 stop light that would help you and me get across the street in addition to the two Catty buses, then call Doughty at the airport and ask him how much taxpayer money did he spend to buy the bank across from the entrance to the airport. Why would they need that building? Are they going to expand toward Bethlehem??? The airport wastes more moeny than it takes to fuel the buses in Catty for a year. But you listen to the cronies at the Catty park, so you know all the answers.
comment reader

Allentown, PA

#47 Aug 13, 2009
To Storm, Everyone is against you, maybe they have the problem, and you do not. Look at the Catty Press(Aug. 13) about the new light and the new parking lot at CMS, it does mention about the bussing situation. residents are real upset that taxes are going up, teacher's salaries are up, residents cannot make ends meet, there are hiring freezes and pay cuts, people are losing their homes are foreclosing and cannot afford to keep their homes, EVERYONE needs to tighten their belts, including the politicians, the schools, all in general.

As far as the senior citizens, many have worked for years and have paid into SS and Medicare and Medicaid, but by the time the baby boomers are retiring, there will be no money.
Storm

Catasauqua, PA

#48 Aug 13, 2009
Comment reader:

The first part of your post really goes all over the place and it is hard to follow but I will respond. "Everyone" is against me" and that proves what, that I am wrong. Read my post to resident. I explained all this talk about the light. You say teacher salaries are UP? What does that mean- up from the 7000 a year I made when I was a teacher. Of course they are up from last year. Was there a year when they went down. Did your salary go down when you worked?

You wrote:

As far as the senior citizens, many have worked for years and have paid into SS and Medicare and Medicaid, but by the time the baby boomers are retiring, there will be no money.

The baby boomers are retiring. I think there will be money in the SS system for the next 10-12 years at least. As far as the SS is concerned, how much did the senior citiizens pay into SS comapred to how much they get. For example, if a senior citizen retired at 62 and has been receiving SS benefits at 1400 a month and he/she are now 75 that means that they will get $218,400.00 during these 13 years. My mother and father both paid into SS and they received benfits of about 1400 per month. They also got Medicare benefits. Now if you think I will believe that a senior citizen who worked during a time when 40,000 was big money, that they paid in anything close to that 218,000 plus the medical benefits received for illnesses or hospital stays, you are in another world. It was I who provided the money with my payments into SS that enabled them to receive this money from the govt. Now take this one more step, let's say this person is now 80. That person now received 302,400. Do you really think they paid into the system to equate to this amount. As long as the teachers and others are working and paying into SS this person could live to be 90. I just figured that one and a 90 year old retiring at 62 and making 1400 in SS would take in 470,400- not bad. So if we are tightening our belts as you say, maybe we could also include the people on SS.
on your side

Allentown, PA

#49 Aug 14, 2009
Hey storm,

Check out the site-NORTHAMPTON AREA SCHOOL TEACHER AUTHORIZE STRIKE- some agree with you with your good points that you make. You have many good ones.
check it out

Allentown, PA

#50 Aug 14, 2009
on your side wrote:
Hey storm,
Check out the site-NORTHAMPTON AREA SCHOOL TEACHER AUTHORIZE STRIKE- some agree with you with your good points that you make. You have many good ones.
Check out the Saucon Valley Strike- There is a chart of the average teacher's salaries throughout the valley. Catty is at $58,000 with an average of 16 years average teachers.
Storm

Catasauqua, PA

#51 Aug 14, 2009
on your side wrote:
Hey storm,
Check out the site-NORTHAMPTON AREA SCHOOL TEACHER AUTHORIZE STRIKE- some agree with you with your good points that you make. You have many good ones.
I am not sure how to get there. The last few posts needed to be corrected and that is what I attempt to do.
Bethlehem resident

United States

#52 Aug 14, 2009
storm,
Check out The Morning Call website, Saucon Valley will be on it, and check Saucon Valley strike-DATA CENTER, it has a listing of all schools in several areas. Catty is about #8 with salary, better than most in the area. Might be of interest to you. ou might want to GOOGLE Northampton strike, what I believe previous comments were from, there is quite a controversy with both school districts, also. Many might be upset with the salaries of teachers, and many are for the teachers, it's about half and half.
Bethlehem resident

United States

#53 Aug 14, 2009
storm'

Or go to Saucon Valleyschoolstrike.Topix
Storm

Catasauqua, PA

#54 Aug 15, 2009
Bethlehem Resident:

You wrote:
Many might be upset with the salaries of teachers, and many are for the teachers, it's about half and half.

Of course some people are upset with the salaries of teachers, but these salaries evolved over the years increasing gradually to this point. I started off at 6800 a year in 1970. Almost 40 years later it is nearing 78,000 at the top after 16 years and a masters. That is an increase of around 70,000 over the 40 years or an average of 1780 a year. 1780 minus the taxes 30%)equals 1250 per year. Now does this appear to be a person who is a greedy pig as was depicted in today's Morning Call. I mean let's face some facts, teachers have to be paid something for doing a job. It requires time, effort, and much money to get a degree. You just don't wake up one day and decide you want to go to apply for a teaching job.

Let me just say this. If Ms. Bollinger, the lady in a pig costume and a sign that calls teachers "greedy pigs", then based on what information I just gave you- I am a greedy pig. What more can be said about nonsense.
Pa taxpayer

Bethlehem, PA

#55 Aug 15, 2009
STORM, There are nurses who have their Masters degree and are having to deal with pay freezes and hiring freezes, along with the Bethlehem school district who are downsizing class trips. The state doesn't have a budget to give the schools any more money, as of yet. Many nursing facilities have pay and hiring freezes, also. Many are losing their jobs and foreclosing on their houses. Look at the many posts where many think all should cut back, not some.I know some who have their Masters and work all year round, and do not make what some teachers do. When the economy picks up and the state settles a budget, then get a raise, but not now, not in the money crisis we are in now. All should cut back.
Storm

Catasauqua, PA

#56 Aug 15, 2009
Pa taxpayer:

You wrote:

When the economy picks up and the state settles a budget, then get a raise, but not now.(You really wrote this--amazing)

When Saucon began negotiating their contract the DOW was at 13000- today it is near 9,000 and the state of Pa had a budget. So now what? Did Saucon settled their contract when the economy was better than it is now-- No. What are you saying here. Let's go back to 2004-2008, when words like recession, bank bailouts, TARP, meltdowns, stimulus packages, cash for clunkers, banruptcies, were used not at all or very seldom. Do you think during this period that teachers were having no problem settling contracts becasue the economy so good. NO, NO, NO- there were still strikes, bargaining sessions that went into the new school year, teachers taught without the contract and this all happened before the economy turned downward. Do you really think, the teachers can trust this board to say- no problem- we will open the contract when the economy improves, angels will sings, the heavens will open, Obama will come down to earth in a bright light and the contract will be reopened with those extras the teachers want along with the two columns on the salary schedule that apparently killed the last proposal. Teachers have to negotiate every so many years and in good times and in bad times.

Should all the teachers in the surronding 20 districts that have contracts give their money back, should the Congressmen and General Assembly of Pa give back any raises they may have gotten, should police and firemen who have contracts give their money back? How about the state employees? What about those workers who received bonuses this year- should they give their bonuses back.( my son got a bonuses that would make the Saucon teachers rethink their contract) How about the bankers and Wall st, businessmen who hads a lot to do with the mess we are in- should they give their money back. If we keep doing this and no one keeps the economy stimulated, then we would be even in a deeper problem than we are now. Why is it the Saucon teachers who bear the brunt of this poor economy brought on by carelessness and greed under names such as Barney Frank, and Chris Dodd. What was Bush's role or lack of it in this economic mess. I see people at the casinos, on jet planes going on vacation, cruise ships are filled, and trying to find a plane to a resort destination is impossible. But the teachers at Saucon should not get a raise while others are filling Coca Cola Park, the Musifest, the restaurants, and the movies.

You talked about the wage freezes for the nurses. Well did anyone ask why the doctors don't take a pay freeze or cut their rates. Why did it cost me 150 to visit my doctor for a check-up. The cost to visit a doctor went from $25- to 125 to 150 without anyone realizing it happened. Why don;t the nurses ask the doctors to take a lower amount per visit especially when you might see a doctor for a half hour or ten minutes- but the rate is still 150.00.

But no, one school district with 192 teachers is bearing the brunt of poor economic conditions and they are the greedy, nasty, mean teachers. Did you see the pciture of the "woman" in the paper dressed like a pig in reference to the teachers at Saucon Vally.

Pa Taxpayer- How about Rendel giving money away like it is candy and Obama and Congress spending money like drunken sailors. We are a trillion in debt and going higher. But no- let sream, yell and vilify the Saucon teachers who do so much for the kids of the district that to have a woman walking around in a pig outfit is just plain disgusting.
I agree

Allentown, PA

#57 Aug 15, 2009
Storm

Check out Bethlehem School District eliminating jobs on GOOGLE and 3.5 million in programs. Pretty sad for everyone. They are losing 51 jobs(I believe teachers), but maybe within the district, pretty sad, hitting the common, ordinary person very hard.
Storm

Catasauqua, PA

#58 Aug 16, 2009
I agree:

It is a difficult situation but it appears the mismanagement of funds and the state not settling the budget added to the problem. I see Rendell all over the news on health care and Michael Vick. He should be doing everything to settle this state budget and worry less about Michael Vick. Vick is making 1.5 million and these people are losing their jobs. But if bethlehem has it bad look at GM and many others. A large bank just went into bankruptcy. However, slowly the DOW is coming back from a low of 5500 to its current level in the 9000s.
I agree

Allentown, PA

#59 Aug 16, 2009
Storm,

Personally, politicians are spending more and more, as we go into a trillion dollar debt, and getting worse every day, TIME FOR CHANGE,(OBAMA'S MOTTO), yeah right, gas is on the rise,the stocks went up very little, I wouldn't count on that trend to pick up, but I am not a stock person, as these pro sports players make their millions, and not worth the time of day, to me, I'm rather spend on my family rather than any professional football player, too expensive, I'm not spending hundreds of dollars to see anyone play football as they make their millions, and make them rich, no way. Off to make my own fun at Camelbeach with my family. I spend my money on my family fun, good food (I cook),and to my favorite charity I am not a Rendell fan, or any politician fan right now, time to clean out the dead wood as far as that is concerned. If nobody would go see them, they wouldn't have a job, either.
check it out

Allentown, PA

#60 Aug 16, 2009
please google Catasauqua school board delayed by dissenters-Board to vote, it does say something about Mr. Levine and the state ????taking over FYI, this is not against you, just info that was written in 2006, might want to check it out.

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