Catasauqua school tax going up to pay for Sheckler renovation

The Catasauqua Area School Board has approved a $27.1 million 2009-10 budget that includes a 4 percent tax increase to pay for renovating Sheckler Elementary School. Full Story
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jmo

Sellersville, PA

#1 Jun 12, 2009
yipee.
get real

Bethlehem, PA

#2 Jun 12, 2009
Great, just what we needed from them, another tax hike.
Thanks. Everyone else has to tighten their belt, but not the government. Yeah, I know, it's for the children. Or is it for the comfort of the staff?
JjLp

AOL

#3 Jun 12, 2009
Wow how nice, People are having a hard enough time these days keeping up their mortgage payments to keep from losing their homes in this economy crisis, and now People of Catasauqua have to pay for renovations to a school, didn't we just have to pay more taxes for the building of one not to long ago? This is ridiculous really, can't it wait till the economy starts coming back a little before all this stuff has to be done? 7 people make a desicion for everyone else, well these 7 people must not have any kind of money problems and all have jobs and have not been layed off or anything, it is these kind of people that show they really do not care about the people in Catasauqua that are just struggling to keep what they have..
Summer Of Love

Allentown, PA

#4 Jun 12, 2009
Catasauqua keeps losing homes to the airport.
Once a home becomes airport property the school no longer gets taxes from that property.

So. Next time you see the airport take a private residence remember to budget more for the next tax year.
Summer Of Love

Allentown, PA

#5 Jun 12, 2009
JjLp wrote:
Wow how nice, People are having a hard enough time these days keeping up their mortgage payments to keep from losing their homes in this economy crisis, and now People of Catasauqua have to pay for renovations to a school, didn't we just have to pay more taxes for the building of one not to long ago? This is ridiculous really, can't it wait till the economy starts coming back a little before all this stuff has to be done? 7 people make a desicion for everyone else, well these 7 people must not have any kind of money problems and all have jobs and have not been layed off or anything, it is these kind of people that show they really do not care about the people in Catasauqua that are just struggling to keep what they have..
It's not a problem....spending others money.
It's a bottomless pit.
Any time they want to they just stick their hand into your pocket and remove as much as they want to.

There's not a thing you can do about it.
stop spending my money

Allentown, PA

#6 Jun 12, 2009
I can't stand living in Catasauqua and having to put up with the incompetent Catasauqua School Board. They don't know how to to not spend. And when these renovations are done at Scheckler, will the tax be dropped?
We've just paid through the nose for a new high school (that we didn't need because the school district is not growing), renovations on the old high school...now this.
This is criminal. Vote them all OUT!
SrambeledBrain

Allentown, PA

#7 Jun 12, 2009
stop spending my money wrote:
I can't stand living in Catasauqua and having to put up with the incompetent Catasauqua School Board. They don't know how to to not spend. And when these renovations are done at Scheckler, will the tax be dropped?
We've just paid through the nose for a new high school (that we didn't need because the school district is not growing), renovations on the old high school...now this.
This is criminal. Vote them all OUT!
Why don't you move if it is so bad to live in Catasauqua? It is no different then most other municipalities. Incompatent school board members who spend taxpayers money without incrimination. Good luck voting them out, but don't make such a stupid statement.
Storm

Whitehall, PA

#8 Jun 12, 2009
I don't like to pay taxes anymore than you but after 37 years don't you think the building may need a little "fixing up". That building has cost the district very little over the 37 years a roof paid mostly by airport funds) because when it was built, the board allowed for solid construction and not taking any short cuts. Actually, the heating- air-conditioning system ran well over the 25 year recommendation. The H/AC should have been replaced 10 years ago but the feeling was do not raise taxes. If you look back, taxes didn't increase for a period of 4 years in Catty at a time when the changes should have been made. But the bottom line was no tax increase. As the man says pay now or pay later.
NC Res

Bethlehem, PA

#9 Jun 12, 2009
What are you talking about?? Our taxes have gone up every year!! Last year the increase was offset a little by the homestead act. The tax base in CASD won't increase because there is no area left to build homes. No homes, no new business.
Projects like this should be voted on by the "tax paying" residents before they are approved. Okay, so we need to pay for maintenance, but we don't need a 30 MILLION $$ tax burden heaped on us now.
John

San Jose, CA

#10 Jun 12, 2009
Storm wrote:
I don't like to pay taxes anymore than you but after 37 years don't you think the building may need a little "fixing up". That building has cost the district very little over the 37 years a roof paid mostly by airport funds) because when it was built, the board allowed for solid construction and not taking any short cuts. Actually, the heating- air-conditioning system ran well over the 25 year recommendation. The H/AC should have been replaced 10 years ago but the feeling was do not raise taxes. If you look back, taxes didn't increase for a period of 4 years in Catty at a time when the changes should have been made. But the bottom line was no tax increase. As the man says pay now or pay later.
Storm, I think all these old geezers on here want their kids to go to wood shop and the lady-folk to go to home economics too. You don't want people in Catty to learn how to use a computer. Yaaaaa, that ain't right, na.

You people are sick how you complain about everything. I hope they don't fix the HVAC and mold grows in it so you can start to pay lawsuits for the next 40 years to save your $100 bucks a year. If you don't think it can happen look at George Wolf in Bath where they didn't upkeep the building and see how much that is costing.

I think the kids should have the right to take away your Medicare too because, frankly, keeping old people going too long is too expensive and raises my taxes.
Storm

Whitehall, PA

#11 Jun 12, 2009
NC res

I am not sure of the years but I believe they were 1998,1999, 2000, and 2001. No tax increase. The district needed things but everything was put on hold because the Board pres. wanted no tax increase. Pay now or pay later.
Catty taxpayer

Allentown, PA

#12 Jul 31, 2009
There STORM is, whining again, as our taxes are going up to renovate Sheckler, plus to pay for the soaring costs of the new high school in EAST ALLEN TOWNSHIP, as an article states that Cunningham recalls Levine saying he wishes the state would take over. I don't know what's worse, Catasauqua running the district, or the state, both are inept. The residents of Catasauqua had no final say in the final vote of the new school, only the school board. Again, let there be a pay cut or freeze for all employees of the district like everyone else, even not get paid like the state employees like my husband. teachers even get paid for coming in on Saturdays for those who get detention at over $100 per Saturday. Must be nice.
Storm

Whitehall, PA

#13 Jul 31, 2009
The residents of Catasauqua certainly had a say on the new high school. They said it loud and clear at the many public meetings that were held. I may not agree on a new health care plan, but the represenmtatives and Senators will discuss, study, and then vote for or against it. That is democracy. You had representatives (school board) members who vote and that is the final decision. I think the new high school and its location was very well thought out and provides the students with a very nice school. I guess a nice piece of land like that is available in Catty and then we would have the school in Catasauqua. What soaring costs for the new high school are you talking about?? Does it need a new roof? A new macadam driveway, more parking, what soaring costs? As far as Sheckler, the building is 37 years old and during those years, it nneded very little maintainence. It needed a new roof but the airport paid for it. Why would Levine want the state to take over the school district??? That statement simply makes no sense.

You say the employees should take a pay cut or freeze for all employees like everyone else. Who is the " like everyone else"??? So my son who just got a bonus in addition to his raise working in business should give it back? Who is everybody else? Do you mean, everybody in Catty did not get a raise this year. Who feeds you this information- Levine and his friend. Does your state employee husband have a retirement plan? Should we take away his plan from him and give it to whom???? If I have a serious illness or disease, should I wish evryone else gets the same disease. I guess that will make me feel better. If I want your husband (or anyone else) to fix something at my place on a Saturday, should they do that for free or do you think they could charge me $100 for their services.

Does your last sentence mean that teachers get paid $100 for "teachers" who get detention on a Saturday? You never mentioned students but I think that is want you meant.

One other thing, you should count your lucky stars that the district has Hanover Township. The amount of funding that comes out of the township is very helpful infunding the district.
Storm

Whitehall, PA

#14 Jul 31, 2009
Catty taxpayer:

You gave me a good idea in your last post concerning a pay cut or a freeze on salaries. I agree with you but I would take it one step further- let's do the same for those on Social Security. Heck we are all in this together, why stop with the teachers or school employees. There are many senior citizens collecting way more moeny than they put into the system. Cut the SS benefits and also cut some medicare benefits. Heck, we are all in this recession together. You had a great idea and I can't wait until Julie Harhart informs her constituents that SS and medicare benefits will be cut. Do you realize the taxes the district employees pay to the feds to keep these programs going??? But then again, if they do not pay into SS, your SS benefits won't be there. Thanks for the idea.
jones

AOL

#15 Jul 31, 2009
Storm wrote:
Catty taxpayer:
You gave me a good idea in your last post concerning a pay cut or a freeze on salaries. I agree with you but I would take it one step further- let's do the same for those on Social Security. Heck we are all in this together, why stop with the teachers or school employees. There are many senior citizens collecting way more moeny than they put into the system. Cut the SS benefits and also cut some medicare benefits. Heck, we are all in this recession together. You had a great idea and I can't wait until Julie Harhart informs her constituents that SS and medicare benefits will be cut. Do you realize the taxes the district employees pay to the feds to keep these programs going??? But then again, if they do not pay into SS, your SS benefits won't be there. Thanks for the idea.
Now you're getting the hang of it all storm.

There are way too many retired teachers in their fifties and not enough teachers left to pay into the system so they hit the taxpayer for their entitlement (or so they think).

The only thing wrong with your logic is the retired people on SS didn't bleed the school district they live in . They worked till they were 62 and got eighty % or at 65 got full SS. Start in 1938 and work your way up to the present and see where full retirement age is 67.

I don't know any school teacher that worked until they were 65 or even plan on working to age 67?

Most retire in their fifties with 30 or more years in and figure their calculation out that they can retire with close to the same amount of pay.

And you don't think the taxpayer is paying enough to support these freeloaders.
Resident

Bethlehem, PA

#16 Jul 31, 2009
This may be a tad off topic, but I always hear people in the town complaining about how we didn't need the new high school or any of the renovations. Many people have no idea how bad the actual conditions were in the two schools. As a recent graduate (2007) I can attest to the dismal conditions that were provided for us. In the high school kids, on many occasions, were forced to use Bunsen burners in the chem labs to stay warm in the winter because the heat didn't work in the science wing. On many occasions we were allowed to go to our lockers and get jackets. Not to mention the mold growing in the bio lab. That eventually had to be quarantined to be scrubbed by HAZMAT teams.

On the note of over crowding, everyday getting to class late and starting late had become commonplace because the halls were so crowded that it took 15 minutes to get from one class to the other. If you were lucky you could sit next to the door and get out first and avoid the rush. These are just some of the things that all would be alleviated with a new building. That is some of them at least.

As for the middle school, cockroaches, faulty pluming, and people getting hit by falling bricks off the facade and roof were all common. To be completely honest I thought the middle school was better than the high school, but then again it was alot longer ago so I don't remember as much. Having a little sister that went there was enough hearing how someone found a dead rat. Yum!

So, I understand everyone's concern with paying taxes that are hiked, I'm a college student I know the value of a dollar, but pay now or later is really true. Do you have children in the district? Wouldn't you like them to have a decent environment? As for the whole school board thing, do you attend? Parkland, from what I hear, has 150+ school parents at every meeting. I think Catty has about 3 every meeting. No excuses. No vote for board members or no attendance at meetings you don't have a say. Make a difference!

jones

AOL

#17 Jul 31, 2009
Cockroaches only come where there is food and water or grease to eat. Move into a new school and let the students carry in food and in no time you'll be loaded with them.

Mold and improper plumbing can also cause other serious problems. It's cheaper to slap up a new schoo; that will only last about 25 years than clean up an old building and make it safe for occupancy.

"Pay now or pay later" No matter how you look at it these cheap schools will cost your children and grandchildren more .
Storm

Whitehall, PA

#18 Aug 1, 2009
jones wrote:
Cockroaches only come where there is food and water or grease to eat. Move into a new school and let the students carry in food and in no time you'll be loaded with them.
Mold and improper plumbing can also cause other serious problems. It's cheaper to slap up a new schoo; that will only last about 25 years than clean up an old building and make it safe for occupancy.
"Pay now or pay later" No matter how you look at it these cheap schools will cost your children and grandchildren more .
Jones:

Visit Catty High and see the grounds and the facilites. The kids have a very nice school that will be there a long time. Where do you get this 25 year stuff. Wake up and stop telling people untruths. You do not have a clue how long a building will last. Northampton Hign school was built in 1963- that is 46 years. The building that went on at Northampton was to accomodate increased enrollment.
Storm

Whitehall, PA

#19 Aug 1, 2009
Resident:

You needed a new high school becasue in part the middle school was falling apart. Recently, Lehigh Valley Christian High School bought the building and they will have a mess to deal with in time. That building was inspected by an engineering firm and the report was dismal. Thus Catty High was built. It was built at the present location because there was no room in Catty to provide space for the school and field space. It was also a smart move in case the airport ever followed through with its threat to take Sheckler through eminent domain because of the airport expansion. There is plenty of room at the high school to place another school if needed. However, that possibility has dimished becasue they are now building onto Sheckler and the airport has not stopped that as they have many other projects including two housing developments. One was in NC and the other was on Willow Brook road back in the early 80s.

The people on the board with vision made the correct move and now there is a very nice school on the hill in East Allen. Did you ever go to Bangor High School. That building is located miles out of Bangor and no one gives a dam.

Paying $28 million for that school will be a bargain in future years. No one likes to pay higher taxes but that is what must be done. Look at all the money that is spent by the fed govt. We are sending billions around the world to help everyone else. The students who attend Catty should be happy they have a very nice facility. If it would be for some naysayers, we would be spending millions on repairs and renovations.

Boards are boards. They come and they go. Over the years many people serve on boards but not for life. Let me tell you something about boards- they come on with an agenda- stop tax increases- then they see the reality and the need to fund the schools and they qucikly learn the reality of running a district.
jones

AOL

#20 Aug 1, 2009
Storm wrote:
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Jones:
Visit Catty High and see the grounds and the facilites. The kids have a very nice school that will be there a long time. Where do you get this 25 year stuff. Wake up and stop telling people untruths. You do not have a clue how long a building will last. Northampton Hign school was built in 1963- that is 46 years. The building that went on at Northampton was to accomodate increased enrollment.
I was refering to flat rubber roofs against A-frame roofs that need constant repair. I've seen them tear down schools that were 100 yrs old .
The only reason they did this was because the asbestos and mold from keeping the windows closed and in some cases the windows can't be opened and depend on recirculated air.
Thats spreading an untruth ? I don't think so. I went to a school that didn't have AC and all the windows were opened. The filters in school AC units don't prevent bacteria from being spread all over the school.

I'd give you more information on why buildings are being torn down but for now the only thing you get is the outside air is probably just as hamful as the inside air.(sometimes).

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