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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Eric

La Grange Park, IL

#51013 Apr 24, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Give me the RACIAL groups.
Give me the percentages.
After which I shall explain, the difference it makes.
Let's get a handle on what race is in relation to our discuss. You have held repeatedly that being a Jew is a question of blood and biology and not religion. Therefore, one race as far as you are concerned is Jew.

Now what did the research show? It showed that Jews are composed of Khazar converts who are Asian. Judeans and Mesopotanian Jews, who are Semites. I am not sure what Greco-Roman Jews are, but that sounds Caucasian. And, Hugh there you have the racial mixing. The research shows that Jews have this racial mixing. It is more than the Brazilians are far as percentage of the population.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51014 Apr 24, 2013
Eric wrote:
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It comes from an article on interfaith marriage rather than interracial marriage. After over 60 years of outright hostility between Arabs and Jews, it's understandable. It's politics not race; it's religion not race.
And cited the article on interfaith relations when we are talking about interracial relations is dishonest on your part.
Eric---And cited the ARTICLE on interfaith relations when we are talking about interracial relations is DISHONEST on your part.

HughBe--- Look here Judahite I am NOT your rabbis. I am NOT a LIAR like YOU and them.

The title of the article is Miscegenation, YOU lying serpent. Look at the TOP for the name of the article, slimeball.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscegenation#Is...

In addition, the quote CLEARLY spoke about INTERRACIAL marriage.
The context was NOT about RELIGION, you typically LYING Judahite.

"MANY Israeli Jews OPPOSE mixed relationships between Jewish women and ARAB men. A 2007 opinion survey found that MORE than HALF of Israeli Jews believed INTERMARRIAGE is equivalent to "NATIONAL TREASON"."

Tell me, Judahite what are the beliefs of the RELIGION called ARAB?

BONEHEAD Eric, "Many Israeli Jews oppose mixed relationships between Jewish women and Arab men. A 2007 opinion survey found that more than half of Israeli Jews believed intermarriage is equivalent to "national treason". A group of 35 Jewish men, known as "Fire for Judaism", in Pisgat Ze'ev have started patrolling the town in an effort to stop Jewish women from dating Arab men. The municipality of Petah Tikva has also announced an initiative to prevent interracial relationships, providing a telephone hotline for friends and family to "inform" on Jewish girls who date Arab men as well as psychologists to provide counselling. The town of Kiryat Gat launched a school programme in schools to warn Jewish girls against dating local Bedouin men.[277][278]
In February 2010 Maariv has reported that the Tel Aviv municipality has instituted an official, government-sponsored "counselling program" to discourage Jewish girls from dating and marrying Arab boys. The Times has also reported on a vigilante parents’ group policing the Jerusalem neighborhood of Pisgat Ze'ev to intimidate and discourage local Arab-Jewish couples. The Jewish anti-missionary group Yad L'achim has also performed paramilitary "rescue operations" of Jewish women from NON_JEWISH HUSBANDS and celebrates the "rescued women" on their website."

Finally, Judaism is POISON and promotes EVIL.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51015 Apr 24, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Let's get a handle on what race is in relation to our discuss. You have held repeatedly that being a Jew is a question of blood and biology and not religion. Therefore, one race as far as you are concerned is Jew.
Now what did the research show? It showed that Jews are composed of Khazar converts who are Asian. Judeans and Mesopotanian Jews, who are Semites. I am not sure what Greco-Roman Jews are, but that sounds Caucasian. And, Hugh there you have the racial mixing. The research shows that Jews have this racial mixing. It is more than the Brazilians are far as percentage of the population.
Eric---Let's get a handle on what race is in relation to our discuss.

HughBe--- Race is Race.

Eric---You have held repeatedly that being a Jew is a question of blood and biology and not religion.

HughBe--- rear true words spoken, by you.

Eric---Therefore, one race as far as you are concerned is Jew.

HughBe---Correct

Eric---Now what did the research show? It showed that Jews are composed of Khazar converts who are Asian.

HughBe--- so, how does that change my position that TRUE physical Jews are BIOLOGICAL in nature?

Eric--- Judeans and Mesopotanian Jews, who are Semites. I am not sure what Greco-Roman Jews are, but that sounds Caucasian. And, Hugh there you have the racial mixing. The research shows that Jews have this racial mixing. It is more than the Brazilians are far as percentage of the population.

HughBe--- When did mixing occur? Was it over the past 50 years? Was it over a THOUSAND years ago?

The Brazilian situation that I am speaking about is NOW or TODAY and not 50 years ago or hundreds of years ago.

Get it?
Eric

La Grange Park, IL

#51016 Apr 24, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Eric---And cited the ARTICLE on interfaith relations when we are talking about interracial relations is DISHONEST on your part.
HughBe--- Look here Judahite I am NOT your rabbis. I am NOT a LIAR like YOU and them.
The title of the article is Miscegenation, YOU lying serpent. Look at the TOP for the name of the article, slimeball.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscegenation#Is...
Have you seen this that predates your article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interfaith_marri...

Did you notice that neither article gives a citation to the source of the quotation.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51017 Apr 24, 2013
Eric wrote:
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intermarriage
When? since 2000 or many hundreds of years ago?
Eric

La Grange Park, IL

#51018 Apr 24, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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In addition, the quote CLEARLY spoke about INTERRACIAL marriage.
The context was NOT about RELIGION, you typically LYING Judahite.
"MANY Israeli Jews OPPOSE mixed relationships between Jewish women and ARAB men. A 2007 opinion survey found that MORE than HALF of Israeli Jews believed INTERMARRIAGE is equivalent to "NATIONAL TREASON"."1.
Hugh, Jews and Arabs are of the same race; Semites.

It's a religious thing. It's a political thing. You can't tell me that you don't understand that after 60 years of outright war that there would be hostility to interfaith marriage with the enemy; i.e., treason.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51019 Apr 24, 2013
Eric wrote:
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intermarriage
1.if you hold the opinion that something is TREASON to the United States of America will YOU engage in it?

2. Tell me about the RELIGION called ARAB.
Eric

La Grange Park, IL

#51020 Apr 24, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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When? since 2000 or many hundreds of years ago?
Doesn't matter. You didn't put a time limit on your statement.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51021 Apr 24, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Have you seen this that predates your article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interfaith_marri...
Did you notice that neither article gives a citation to the source of the quotation.
Once again, The title of the article is Miscegenation (interracial marriages).

My focus was interracial marriages and that is what the article is about.

I simply went to Israel and Brazil the countries on interest.
Eric

La Grange Park, IL

#51022 Apr 24, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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1.if you hold the opinion that something is TREASON to the United States of America will YOU engage in it?
2. Tell me about the RELIGION called ARAB.
Tell me about the race ARAB. Both are Semites.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51023 Apr 24, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Hugh, Jews and Arabs are of the same race; Semites.
It's a religious thing. It's a political thing. You can't tell me that you don't understand that after 60 years of outright war that there would be hostility to interfaith marriage with the enemy; i.e., treason.
You are a real slime. Many calling themselves Jews don't look like Arabs. Moreover when YOU and your kind speak you hijack the word anti-Semitic to mean JEWS only and YOU do so as if Arabs are not also Semitic peoples.

I find your current position useful.

Finally, are YOU telling me that I cannot go to an Israeli newspaper that speak of the HATRED between Jews in RACIAL terms?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51024 Apr 24, 2013
Hatred between Jews and Arabs, in RACIAL terms?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51025 Apr 24, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Doesn't matter. You didn't put a time limit on your statement.
It matters Einstein, the DUMB knows that I was speaking about a CURRENT situation. The data was CURRENT and not HUNDREDS of years ago.
Eric

La Grange Park, IL

#51026 Apr 24, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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You are a real slime. Many calling themselves Jews don't look like Arabs. Moreover when YOU and your kind speak you hijack the word anti-Semitic to mean JEWS only and YOU do so as if Arabs are not also Semitic peoples.
I find your current position useful.
Finally, are YOU telling me that I cannot go to an Israeli newspaper that speak of the HATRED between Jews in RACIAL terms?
Nope, it's political and religious.

What race do you think the Arabs are?
Eric

La Grange Park, IL

#51027 Apr 24, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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It matters Einstein, the DUMB knows that I was speaking about a CURRENT situation. The data was CURRENT and not HUNDREDS of years ago.
Nope, you made no such assertion. The Jews of Israel are of mixed races. Research has shown it.

Maybe next time you should watch what you say and give it some more thought. I was responding to your exact statement, assuming nothing.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51028 Apr 24, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Nope, you made no such assertion. The Jews of Israel are of mixed races. Research has shown it.
Maybe next time you should watch what you say and give it some more thought. I was responding to your exact statement, assuming nothing.
Wake-up, the context was NOT 100 years ago. I spoke of what obtains now, even if that FACT and the context went over your head.

Eric---The Brazilian person to whom we were speaking insisted that there were no cases of discrimination and discriminatory violence in Brazil......if you would have read the research like I asked you too, you would know that your statement is absolutely false

Hugh--- I don't have to read the research I KNOW that such an assertion is FALSE.

However that does NOT change my point, I KNOW of a FACT that there is far greater mixing and intermarriage between RACES in Brazil than Israel. In fact, only a FOOL or an EVIL person would seek to compare the two countries in that regard

Eric--- You popped in to the middle of the conversation with you POPPYCOCK and non-sequitors.

HughBe--- Your POPPYCOCK sounds too close to PUPPYCOCK and so on that bases alone I know that it is applicable to YOU.

You could have applied BULLdog COCK to me and then I would have been able to praise you for your growth in sense.

The non sequiturs comment is forgiven.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51029 Apr 24, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Nope, it's political and religious.
What race do you think the Arabs are?
I have READ and quoted Israeli newspapers that put it in terms of RACISM. One example, not RENTING to ARAB students.

I have cited those articles in the past and YOU know it. You are just trying to be "clever" but it reflects POORLY on you.
Eric

La Grange Park, IL

#51030 Apr 24, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Wake-up, the context was NOT 100 years ago. I spoke of what obtains now, even if that FACT and the context went over your head.
No you didn't. You said "I KNOW of a FACT that there is far greater mixing and intermarriage between RACES in Brazil than Israel." And, the research shows you are wrong. Almost every Jew, including those in Israel, are of mixed race accomplished through intermarriage.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51031 Apr 24, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Nope, it's political and religious.
What race do you think the Arabs are?
Eric---Nope, it's political and religious.

HughBe--- Do you regard a comment about " RACIST outbursts" as being political/religious?

If you read such a comment, give me a few of such RACIST OUTBURST by your masters/rabbis.

Would prohibiting Jews from dating ARABS fall into the category of RACISM?

Would telling their blind disciples NOT to RENT property to Arabs, racism ?

"It is said of our Torah “Its ways are pleasant and all paths lead to peace.” The time has come to privatize the official Rabbinate in Israel – a bureaucracy that employs thousands. Those rabbis who wish to express their political views must be fired or resign. They must not be allowed to stray from the Torah’s “pleasant ways” even as their salaries are covered by Israeli tax payers. Those that incite to violence must be called to justice by the police and answer to the judiciary.

The RACIST outbursts caused me to feel shame. This rabbinic ruling, and the subsequent “Rebbizen Letter” are ethically abhorrent and a perversion of Jewish law"

Do you see the word RACIST in the words below?

http://blogs.jpost.com/content/fire-racist-ra...
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51032 Apr 24, 2013
Eric wrote:
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No you didn't. You said "I KNOW of a FACT that there is far greater mixing and intermarriage between RACES in Brazil than Israel." And, the research shows you are wrong. Almost every Jew, including those in Israel, are of mixed race accomplished through intermarriage.
was the research done 100 years ago?

Is the research current?

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