Water plan: Rob Peter, pay Paul

Water plan: Rob Peter, pay Paul

There are 9 comments on the Monterey County Herald story from Apr 10, 2010, titled Water plan: Rob Peter, pay Paul. In it, Monterey County Herald reports that:

The Peninsula's solution to its water shortage - the ballyhooed desalination project which relies on desalting brackish water from the Salinas Basin - will worsen North Monterey County's water supply problems.

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Douglas Deitch

Santa Cruz, CA

#2 Apr 10, 2010
"This impact was not analyzed in the Regional Plan's environmental impact report, produced by RMC Planning (Lyndel Melton). Groundwater impacts were based on wells outside the North County aquifers. Curtis Weeks, general manager of the county Water Resources Agency, asserts that this is OK because, given adequate funds, the agency will monitor the potential impacts. Supervisor Calcagno isn't worried either. He says he plans to build water distribution systems to move water uphill. "

Water will always move uphill to water....in this case yours.

fyi?....My Monterey. Neighbors...

Where I live up here in Santa Cruz, I call this a "Water/Berry Ponzi Scheme"

http://pogonip.org/WaterDocs/WaterBerryPonziS...
local from monterey

Monterey, CA

#3 Apr 10, 2010
julie fail to mention, at all, another rob peter to pay paul watr transfer that has already been in place for over a decade. Doug you might recognize this as another ponzi. Carmel River water has been used to offset seawater intrusion in the Castroville area. The project, called CSIP, takes waste water from peninsula systems, which is Carmel River water, treats it and produces up to 19,000 acre feet of tertiary quality, reclaimed water, for AG production in Castroville.

Of the overall 19,000 ac ft, about 25% of that is actually from the Carmel R aquifer. Where was Julie, Fitz and Landwatch when that transfer out of basin was approved?

One of the benefits of the using brackish water is to reduce costs, so first the critics skewer the project to finally legalize CalAm water supplies for impacts to sealife from direct seawater intake, cost and private ownership. So in a publi/private colloborative effort, the regional plan uses beach wells using brackish water which reduces the energy needed to desalt water and avoids direct seawater intake, both environmental improvements. And they agree to pubilc ownership of the plant.

This is why Surfrider and friends of publicly owned water support the regional plan vs. the other proposals. Landwatch has shown they will mislead and leave out facts to acheive their end goal, prevent any new water supply. Even one that has significant potential to solve the illegal overpumping of the Carmel R which is threatening at least two species with extinction. Where are the their supposed environmental concerns when it comes to restoring and healing the Carmel River?
Douglas Deitch

Santa Cruz, CA

#4 Apr 10, 2010
"This is why Surfrider and friends of publicly owned water support the regional plan vs. the other proposals."

Response: A truly "regional plan" would address the entire ground water "hydrologic" region, holistically.

What most Monterey Folks apparently don't appreciate is that the vast majority of the 15k/a/f/yr loss to saltwater occurring in "Pajaro" is actually and really occurring in Monterey, not Santa Cruz, County?

Whose "region" is this?....

Oh yeah, aybe I forgot...
it's the SC/MTY Farm Bureaus', associated tenant transnational companies', and UC's?
JAB

Pebble Beach, CA

#5 Apr 10, 2010
Good comment about water transfer out of the Peninsula to support CSIP. However, please note that CSIP was approved long before LandWatch was even formed. Also, note that transfer of water out of the SVGB is illegal. I'm not sure that is the case with water from the Carmel River.
JAB

Pebble Beach, CA

#6 Apr 10, 2010
P.S. Also, note that Citizens for Public Water has not signed on to the Settlement Agreement as implied in comments.
local from monterey

Monterey, CA

#7 Apr 10, 2010
both manuel fierro and george riley commented publicy at the MPWMD "reconsideration" meeting of last monday in support of the regional project. they are founders of the local "flow", the majority of stakeholders that have been working to solve the illegal overpumping of the carmel river for years support the regional plan. so did MPWMD unitl they had a revote without one of the directors in attendance.

no one who has posted criticisms or advocates against this desal project addresses either the overdraft or recover of the carmel river, rather they grasp for a straws like north county seawater intrusion.

such as this from doug .....

"Response: A truly "regional plan" would address the entire ground water "hydrologic" region, holistically."

and, i ask for the third time Douglas, what is your holistics project to address both Pajaro and Salinas Valley seawater intrusion, the destruction our fisheries and rivers from overdrafting during the dry summer? what replacement water are you proposing?
recomar

Salinas, CA

#8 Apr 10, 2010
the day you publish Ms Engals in your paper is the day I drop delivery. She moved here, got her water then denies my children the same right. We have been here 4 generations soon to be 5.

Shame on both of you.
Douglas Deitch

Yuba City, CA

#9 Apr 12, 2010
local from monterey wrote:
both manuel fierro and george riley commented publicy at the MPWMD "reconsideration" meeting of last monday in support of the regional project. they are founders of the local "flow", the majority of stakeholders that have been working to solve the illegal overpumping of the carmel river for years support the regional plan. so did MPWMD unitl they had a revote without one of the directors in attendance.
no one who has posted criticisms or advocates against this desal project addresses either the overdraft or recover of the carmel river, rather they grasp for a straws like north county seawater intrusion.
such as this from doug .....
"Response: A truly "regional plan" would address the entire ground water "hydrologic" region, holistically."
and, i ask for the third time Douglas, what is your holistics project to address both Pajaro and Salinas Valley seawater intrusion, the destruction our fisheries and rivers from overdrafting during the dry summer? what replacement water are you proposing?
Be gentle with the Earth....that's how we do it.

Translation: Reduce our ground water pumping, 90% for ag overdrafting at 200% overdraft (?), by the scale necessary to stop further seawater intrusion and provide adequate sustainable supplies for our human population.

It's a very simple, though long forgotten and ignored concept...

It's call "living within our means".

Let's try this and give it a shot. I promise you, it will work. Trust me.
Douglas Deitch

Yuba City, CA

#10 Apr 12, 2010

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