Why Dowagiac ?
Posted in the Cassopolis Forum
#1 Aug 12, 2010
My spouse and I will be entering retirement in a year or so and
she has suggested moving to the Dowagiac area. My question to her
and those on this forum is "Why would we want to do this ?". I have her answer but from the small amount of research I have made
it appears to be less than a desireable area to retire in. I have the statistics. What I am looking for is a reason why I should ignor the data and relocate there. Any answers ?
#2 Aug 15, 2010
There is no reason to move her. We have the 2nd highest electric rate in the state of Michigan and every two weeks the council tries to raise our utility costs.
If want want your retirement dollars to last longer move anywhere but Dowagiac
#3 Aug 18, 2010
Well thanks Karen for the comment but it can't be
that bad. Last year I paid $7100 ... that's
right $7100 in real estate taxes on a 1/3 acre lot
an a 4 br, 3 bath house. I suspect there are few
private properties in Dowagiac that pay that
amount. A $200 utility bill doesn't seem that far
out of sync with the rest of the midwest.
I am not looking for a reason to discount Dowagiac
as a retirement location. I have enough statistics
to support that. I want to know what Dowagiac has
that would support a decision to retire there. So
far my spouse is losing the argument....I prefer to
retire in the Indianapolis area, she has this
picture in her lovely head of a small "Mayberry"
community that the statistics do not support.
One more time .... Why Dowagiac ?
#4 Aug 24, 2010
Dowagiac has one of the highest electric rated in the state. Our City Manager is paid more than the City Manager of Lansing Michigan.
This town runs on our elected officials keeping control over residents.
Good example the city had raw sewage leaking into a local lake and never told residents about it.
Mayberry,no way Dowagiac looks and acts more like the Stepford Wives.
Save yourself the trouble and head south
#5 Aug 29, 2010
Bill; I am not following your logic. Energy rates are high everywhere. People seek the highest return for their efforts whether they are politicians , doctors, engineers or plumbers.
Yes...all local officials are elected by the residents that have the most invested. How are you
personally being "controlled" by your elected officials ?
What I am reading on this forum is there are some
disgruntled residents that for whatever reason seem to think their situations are the result of someone elses actions. This is simply childish
or the results of ignorance.
I am looking for comments on what makes Dowagiac
the choice of it's residents. All I am reading is
complaints from people who obviously (from your posting ID) are not residents. Hopefully for Dowagiac this is not representative of the general
#6 Sep 7, 2010
You are just reading their replies on why not to move there. The way it loos its not a good place to live. You wanna hear anything good then hear it from your wife. Shes the one wanting to move there. No one can make your decision but dont get on here and down people thats either lived there or is living there. You have their opinions. If you didnt want to know them you should have kept it off of topix and went to visit the place and talked to the locals if you wanted to maybe hear something good. All they were trying to do is help. See, this is MY opinion!!
#7 Sep 7, 2010
Arkansas huh ?
#8 Nov 24, 2010
Hello I grew up in dowagiac and currently live in west tn. If your wife is looking for a "Mayberry" type then Dowagiac is a good choice. It's a smaller city and people are very kind and friendly for the most part. Most of the businesses are family owned and are very good people. I miss it there sometimes but where i live now is definately more "mayberry". lol. There might be a total of 1000 people where i live now but i am not far from civilization. lol. I like it here. It took me a while to get used to it but i like going to the gas station and knowing the people that work there. Southern hospitality is very strong and comforting and it makes you feel at home.
#9 Jan 10, 2011
You have missed the point. Why does a small town like Dowagiac have the highest electric rate in the state?
A $200 electric bill may be in line for the midwest but a $200.00 bill here is for a one room apartment.
Many residents with "normal" size houses have a bill of 400-600 a month.
That is not normal, nor is a city manager in a town of a few thousand being paid more than the city manager of Lansing MI.
Get all your facts before you talk someone into moving to a town with businsess closing as soon as their lease runs out because they can't afford the electric.
#10 Jan 15, 2011
DNGNR, as far as a place to retire to, I think Dowagiac would suit you well as long as you don't mind the snow in the winter. But the road crews do a good job of keeping the main roads cleaned. I'm sure I'll get some flack back on that but I stick by that! And we seem to have a very good police crew...but the medical care here sucks sour apples! There's a hospital and a medical center but I wouldn't take my dog to them, let alone myself!
I was gone for 35 yrs. and my hubby and I moved here 5 yrs. ago. He loves it....says Michigan is a well kept secret. We have 4 distinct seasons with the summers very pleasant most years. Many, many lakes in all directions if fishing is your thing and plenty of wildlife if you like to hunt...oh and can't forget ice fishing in the winter...BIG SPORT here. Dowagiac is lacking badly on things to do as a family, but you still have plenty of small towns around that have wonderful festivals and such.
We do have a city council and a mayor that desperatley needs changing....they are all from big money and don't recognize the little people that are struggling. And definitely need a change up of festival organizer! Don't know where her ideas are coming from but they need to change!
One of the biggest problems we seem to have here are the kids in the summer as there is NOTHING for them in this town!!
Well, i hope this helps you alittle. I know you got alot of negative feedback and wanted to let you know that it's not all bad! As in any small town, we have our good and bad!
#11 Jan 31, 2011
Dowagiac is a great place to live. We are situated in an area with several lakes to enjoy in the summer, not to mention we are very close to Lake Michigan. 22 miles away from Indiana & Notre Dame. Happy to say that Dowagiac has attracted several new businesses with unique items. The best kept secret are all the stores selling vintage items at a great price. We have a wide variety of eating establishments for every type of appetite. The Beckwith Theatre offers up great entertainment not to mention the Dogwood Festival. Dowagiac is also home to several statues. And when was the last time you were able to drive by not one, but two mansions? A community college within 5 miles, a new middle school. Dowagiac is a great place to live. I should know, as I was born & raised here and probably will die here.
#12 Jan 31, 2011
I am sure penelope will live longer than this dying town. She failed to tell you that some of the new businesses have already closed.
The saying in Dowagiac is a new store lasts as long as their lease.
Hey penelope has the jobs in Dowagiac? Wasn't your mayor accused of rigging a car auction?
Don't you pay one the highest electric rates in the state?
Didn't your former city manager get arrested for attempting to meet a 14 year old for sex?
Oh don't for the doctor that got arrested for child porn.
Almost forgot the funeral director with human ashes stored in his kitchen.
Sounds like I place I want to live. That is why we moved.
The one thing that is great about Dowagiac is the schools.
#13 Feb 1, 2011
How fortunate that we live in a country with choices. You, Roger have made your choice to live somewhere else that suits you & your family. I am assuming that where you now live the citizens are above reproach. You made a wise choice. Businesses open & close all the time. Dowagiac has more longetivity in terms of family owned businesses than other communities. Caruso's, Judd Lumber, Hale's Hardware, Underwoods, Weaver Insurance, Marshall Shoppe, just to name a few. Yes, while it is true that a few bad apples can spoil the whole bunch, the rest of its citizens are decent hard-working people & neighbors. In regards to the utilities, we just got our bill & it is not much higher than in previous years. I would rather being paying the city rate compared to what AEP is charging. Again, you made the best decision for you & your family as I have done for mine.
#14 Feb 1, 2011
Don't listen to this GARBAGE> AEP's electric rate is many times over cheaper than the city of Dowagiac.
Whoever reads this, this person is either employed by the dying city or is a member of their click.
The store you listed are the only stores that have been for for years the rest open and close in a year.
Heck business is so bad in Dowagiac the Goodwill store closed.
Run, dont walk to another community, her comment on the electric rate is an all out LIE that is why she will not use her real name.
I am so glad we closed our business and got out of that corrupt town.
#15 Feb 1, 2011
All I know is that DEADWAGIAC,MICHIGAN sucks, I have lived here my entire life.
#16 Feb 1, 2011
Wow, 6 comments in one day. It has been a while since I made my post asking the question "Why Dowagiac ?". The one thing I find amazing is the number of respondents that obviously didn't read my post completely. I was not asking why to avoid Dowagiac. I was asking what it was about Dowagiac that it's population finds desirable.
Judging from the response there are those who love the town and there are some who simply do not. Roger, you really need to deal with your inability to accept others opinions. You and your fellow Waterveliet responders clearly have glass-half- empty mentalities.
Bill Oliver,I have to ask the question "Why?".
Why have you lived there your whole life if you are not happy ? I am sure "sucks" is a good decription of your attitude toward your community.
My wife and I have lived in several communities over the past 30 years and have been involved with schools , youth programs such as Scouting and in the participation and organization of community
events. I have seen disgruntled people and have worked with great contributors in each community.
I prefer the contributors.
My spouse and I will be spending some time in the Dowagiac are this summer ...a sort of test drive.
If we like what we experience we will reconsider.
Thanks for your comments Penelope and Tami.
#17 Feb 1, 2011
DNGNR....you and your wife have the right idea. Come visit and see what you think. What's right for one isn't necessarily right for another. Have you decided where you will stay while you're here?
AND PUTTING DOWN DOWAGIAC IS NOT GOING TO REGAIN WHAT WE ONCE HAD HERE "ROGER"!! You know better than anyone that some of us are trying to get a better council in that will help us try to get our old Dowagiac back....in fact just yesterday, 3 of us WERE SUPPOSE TO MEET WITH SOMEONE AT BK TO DISCUSS MY RUNNING FOR COUNCIL THIS NOV!!!! I NEEDED SOME INFO AND THAT "SOMEONE" NEVER DID SHOW UP!!! NO PHONE CALL, NOTHING. I even called them to remind them and find out where the heck they were....I never did get a call back but instead had to catch up with them on facebook!! To me, that was very rude! Kinda made me feel like their time was so important but mine wasn't! But at least I did have a very nice visit with the 2 that did show up and for that i thank you both!
Okay, I've yakked enough now. Someone else's turn.
#18 Feb 2, 2011
Hey Dowagiac Chieftains. born and raised in that area years ago. Live south now and was wondering ab out how much snow you got there with this storm? Would appreciate the info. Thanks much!
#19 Feb 2, 2011
We got about 20 inches with huge drifts. Nothing at all is open today, but it is a beautiful sunny day today.
Since: Nov 09
#20 Feb 2, 2011
My Uncle and Aunt lived in Dowagiac, for many years, and loved the small country town feel of this then beautiful community . We visited often, and it was always a pleasant change from the big,fast pace city that was then becoming, over populated Miami, Florida, and is now saturated, beyond belief .( Miami )
Uncle Jimmy and Aunt Mattie Mae Jackson, loved Dowagiac, had there own home on a dirt road, with a garden, chickens, roosters, dogs were used Uncle Jimmy`s for hunting and Aunt Mat, would drive her Chevrolet to go ice fishing . The only Black Lady, i ever saw, or knew that would ice fish, and she loved those winter, just waiting to catch her share. They are both now deceased, and buried in Dowagiac. Aunt Mat, would take me to some of the well to do Anglo homes, and introduce me to her many employers, and oftentimes we would be allowed to pick some apples from those orchards, by those nice families . The apple cider is among the best in the world, from my taste buds. Uncle Jimmy, also has a side job of picking up garbage from some of the major businesses, with his large truck, and I had the chance to help him on his garbage runs, which was always fun, and money was earned . The PEOPLE in that community were always nice from that long ago era . Would highly recommend moving to this little city . My Aunt Mat, would travel to Cleveland, Ohio, for any serious medical problem, once she had become an old Lady, during her youth, she was treated locally. This is a sincere recommendation based upon my visits to this city during the 1980`s and early 90`s, after having read each of the comments in this section .-----Good Luck on Your Choice.
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