Casselberry cites businesses for selling alcohol to underage cu...

Casselberry police have cited 12 stores for selling alcohol to minors. Officers worked on Friday with the Florida Chapter of Mothers Against Drunk Driving and two underage decoys in the operation, which targeted 23 locations, and involved the two deocys entering the locations and trying to buy or be served alcohol. Full Story
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CrazyLaws

Orlando, FL

#91 May 24, 2009
You now, the USA is one of three countries in the world with 21 as its drinking age (Indonesia and Paulau are the other two). When we were in school the drinking age was 18. What changed? The Feds, fueled by the Reagan Administration blackmailed the State governments into raising the legal age to 21 in order to continue to receive funding to maintain their highways. Some states now want to reverse this because it is totally riduculous. You can die for your country, are labeled mature enough to vote and live as an adult, yet, you can't have a beer until you're 21. How stupid is this?

Of course, I now expect all the "legislate to save us from ourselves" people to jump in on this, but you know, I don't care. In much of Europe 16 buys you beer and 18 hard liquor--some countries don't even have a drinking age.

Okay, you can scream about drunk drivers and teen alcoholism, but you know what? It is still with us even with the law being 21. Nothing has changed, fake IDs abound, and older siblings and friends get booze for underage drinkers.

We aren't damaged goods and our legal age was 18. So what's the friggin' difference? Lower the drinking age to 18 like it should be and show some sanity for a change.
CrazyLaws

Orlando, FL

#92 May 24, 2009
UpL8 wrote:
When I was a teen I asked my dad if I could have one of his beers. He said yes and have one with me. His logic was "you know you can't drink in public until you're 18, but I don't want you going out there without knowing how haveing a beer is going to make you feel". He and I sat on the back porch and sipped, not pounded, our ice cold beers and talked. Every once in a while he asked me how I was feeling. I said I felt fine. After about an hour we were finished and we talked a bit more and I said I had to go to the bathroom. I got up, wobbled a bit, and my dad said "this is what it does to you". Wow. Was I surprised. I wobbled back from the bathroom and my dad and I had a long talk about the effects of alcohol on the mind and body and how alcohol should be enjoyed and not abused. He taught me that I should be in control of what I drink and not let the pressure of 'friends' play a part in drinking. I have been a bartender and have been at many social functions and have had the opportunity to see people in various states of intoxication. The majority of folks I've seen do know how to socially drink and are responsible. There are some that just don't get it and, as adults, never will. Each person must be responsible for their own actions and parents need to take an active role in teaching their children how to handle situations. So many teens go off to college without a clue as to how alcohol will make them feel and they are thrown into an environment that mixes alcohol with immaturity and ignorance. I still enjoy an ice cold beer after yard work or a nice glass of wine with dinner. I'm teaching my children the same way my dad taught me. My teenager is allowed to have some wine with us at dinner and like me, will grow up controlling her drinking instead of drinking controlling her.
Excellent parenting skills. I applaud you for this. I wish more parents took this sane and logical approach instead of choosing fear and ignorance.
UpL8

Palm Bay, FL

#94 May 24, 2009
CrazyLaws wrote:
You now, the USA is one of three countries in the world with 21 as its drinking age (Indonesia and Paulau are the other two). When we were in school the drinking age was 18. What changed? The Feds, fueled by the Reagan Administration blackmailed the State governments into raising the legal age to 21 in order to continue to receive funding to maintain their highways. Some states now want to reverse this because it is totally riduculous. You can die for your country, are labeled mature enough to vote and live as an adult, yet, you can't have a beer until you're 21. How stupid is this?
Of course, I now expect all the "legislate to save us from ourselves" people to jump in on this, but you know, I don't care. In much of Europe 16 buys you beer and 18 hard liquor--some countries don't even have a drinking age.
Okay, you can scream about drunk drivers and teen alcoholism, but you know what? It is still with us even with the law being 21. Nothing has changed, fake IDs abound, and older siblings and friends get booze for underage drinkers.
We aren't damaged goods and our legal age was 18. So what's the friggin' difference? Lower the drinking age to 18 like it should be and show some sanity for a change.
You are so right about the 'blackmail' tactics that the federal gov't put on the state's highway repair requests. I agree heartily with you that if an eighteen year old man or woman can enlist and die for their country then by all means they should be allowed to have a shot before getting shot. Excellent post! I hope those reading it really consider what you've stated here.
Hope

Winter Park, FL

#95 May 24, 2009
Gator Grad wrote:
To HOPE,
You sound like a small time LEO, or a wannabe. Keep googling basic LEO lingo, and you might learn something, other than that, go back to your loss prevention job at Target. You don't want to duel with this Gator.
HAHAHAHA!!! I needed that laugh. Truly, my employment is of no business to you. That being said, truth hurts and your callous accusation and attempt at belittling me proves it. I'm sorry you're so angry...I really am.

Try to have a better day, ok?
Hope

Winter Park, FL

#96 May 24, 2009
UpL8 wrote:
When I was a teen I asked my dad if I could have one of his beers. He said yes and have one with me. His logic was "you know you can't drink in public until you're 18, but I don't want you going out there without knowing how haveing a beer is going to make you feel". He and I sat on the back porch and sipped, not pounded, our ice cold beers and talked. Every once in a while he asked me how I was feeling. I said I felt fine. After about an hour we were finished and we talked a bit more and I said I had to go to the bathroom. I got up, wobbled a bit, and my dad said "this is what it does to you". Wow. Was I surprised. I wobbled back from the bathroom and my dad and I had a long talk about the effects of alcohol on the mind and body and how alcohol should be enjoyed and not abused. He taught me that I should be in control of what I drink and not let the pressure of 'friends' play a part in drinking. I have been a bartender and have been at many social functions and have had the opportunity to see people in various states of intoxication. The majority of folks I've seen do know how to socially drink and are responsible. There are some that just don't get it and, as adults, never will. Each person must be responsible for their own actions and parents need to take an active role in teaching their children how to handle situations. So many teens go off to college without a clue as to how alcohol will make them feel and they are thrown into an environment that mixes alcohol with immaturity and ignorance. I still enjoy an ice cold beer after yard work or a nice glass of wine with dinner. I'm teaching my children the same way my dad taught me. My teenager is allowed to have some wine with us at dinner and like me, will grow up controlling her drinking instead of drinking controlling her.
It was such a relief to read this post and others today. I agree that drinking age should be 18 for the reasons cited. I also agree that as long as a person is being responsible with their consumption (as noted above), there isn't a problem. Unfortunately you have these teens who think they can hold their liquor and can't. They don't know their limits and use bad judgement. Sometimes it ends up killing people. It happens all the time.

As other posters have said, do your job and card. Don't do it and you take a risk. But don't come crying if you get caught!
Gator51

Orlando, FL

#97 May 24, 2009
Don't know about this but . . . Over the holidays Smokey Bones has a takeout special, you choose 3 meats - 2 lbs smoked turkey, beef brisket, pulled pork or 2 chickens or 32 chicken wings. Also select 2 large sides for $40. Must order 24 hours in advance. A great deal.
troy

Ocala, FL

#98 May 24, 2009
What they fail to mention in the story is the decoys look like they are thirty with better beards than i could ever grow.
Proud Parent of Three

Orlando, FL

#99 May 24, 2009
Thanks for making these businesses public so local teens know where to go get drinks. How stupid! Sure, they should be in in trouble, but do you really need to publicize the names? Also, why aren't the names of EVERY PLACE serving to underage persons listed regularly? The bars by UCF serve underage kids all the time, and I don't read about them.

Since: Jan 09

Tel Aviv-Yafo

#101 May 25, 2009
rodney wrote:
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Maybe in Hudson, but we here live in the murder capital of Florida. Cops here need to quit wasting time amd resources amd fight the violent perpetrators that infest this part of the state.
That would be Tampa, FL, MacDill AFB. Hudson, I don't know why it's there.

Alcohol sales to minors places an already statistically proven dangerous driver on the highway drunk. Intervening in the sale of alcohol to kids is a good thing and cost so little in manpower and resources as to be a good investment in public safety.
I Support The Police

United States

#102 May 25, 2009
Here is an idea, why dont you to a MADD Candlelight function and talk to a family member that lost someone in a DUI crash. Then maybe you will see the pain these families feel. Great job Casselberry Police and MADD.
Oh come on

Winter Park, FL

#104 May 26, 2009
doug wrote:
Madd is nuts these arrests are practically entrapment and at a time when we have so many more important crimes to stop. Way to go officers for putting hard working folks in jail who otherwise are law abiding citizens just trying to earn a living.
Hey - that dude that killed his wife the other day was and "otherwise law abiding citizen." Scream at the cops all day - they have to enforce the laws, they don't make them.
Entrepeneur

Clermont, FL

#105 May 27, 2009
Hope wrote:
You are so smart, aren't you?
First off, lose the word "arrest". The person is not arrested, booked, or processed---as you call it. That would entail a drive to the jail where the Booking facility would take a pic, fingerprint, and reports printed and entered. What you are referring to is called an "NTA" or a notice to appear. This is NOT an ROR. Similar, yes...but an ROR occurs AFTER someone has been arrested and charged in court. And an NTA is done 24-7---"business hours" has nothing to do with anything. They are written any time an officer feels that the person does not need to be arrested. This again, is officer discretion.
You still want to duel some more?
You two are so F'ing smart. Stop taking yourselves so seriously.

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