Casselberry cites businesses for sell...

Casselberry cites businesses for selling alcohol to underage cu...

There are 92 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from May 23, 2009, titled Casselberry cites businesses for selling alcohol to underage cu.... In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

Casselberry police have cited 12 stores for selling alcohol to minors. Officers worked on Friday with the Florida Chapter of Mothers Against Drunk Driving and two underage decoys in the operation, which targeted 23 locations, and involved the two deocys entering the locations and trying to buy or be served alcohol.

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rocky321

Altamonte Springs, FL

#64 May 24, 2009
sigh...when I was 18 they wanted me to die in Vietnam. But it was also legal to drink at 18 here in Florida. Old enough to die for the country...your mature enough to have a drink. But thats just me. With the dui enforcement as it is, you have a choice.....be responsible..or pay the government for your misfortune.
Bluelight

Kissimmee, FL

#67 May 24, 2009
george ballard wrote:
thanks doug for stepping up to the plate!MADD and fhp and other police departments dont have enough revunue to keep them on the payroll,so they target the easiest prey,clerks working for the minium wage!every year MADD treats the fhp to a steak dinner for the most arrests,MADDdont have any compassion for all the deaths of underage drinking on college campus across america,duh because they were not under the wheel when they passed away! because of alcohol and/or drugs being deemed illegal,everyone is a suspect in the so-called war on its citizens,you are old enough to vote and die for your country,but not able to have a beer,after killing innocent women and children! viet-nam{de jevau}as long as alchol drugs,and tobacco products are forbidden,our youth is gong to be determined to try them!heil hitler is coming full circle,and closing you dont need a IDto purcahse cocaine ,estacy,or heroin! lets make it easier to give the police broader powers,your house could be the next to search! sleep tight america,support your local swat team,i am sorry your police force!
You are so WRONG about getting just a steak dinner. It was Steak/Lobster dinner..and a Bonus Check free vacation also.
Keep up the good work my law enforcement buddies...Please keep my family safe
Thank you :)
Missed One

Kissimmee, FL

#68 May 24, 2009
Send the cops to the Gators on Lake Underhill. They would probably score a case there also.
Gator Grad

Kissimmee, FL

#69 May 24, 2009
To HOPE,

You sound like a small time LEO, or a wannabe. Keep googling basic LEO lingo, and you might learn something, other than that, go back to your loss prevention job at Target. You don't want to duel with this Gator.
kizzy

Kissimmee, FL

#71 May 24, 2009
I love it..... liberals complaining when it's time to do what's right
Mike

Oviedo, FL

#72 May 24, 2009
So if they don't bust these shops, they sell alcohol to someone that drinks and drives and kills someone and that person could be your family. Now is that a real crime? Get over it, obey the law and so what you're suppose to do.
blindleadingtheb lind

Cocoa Beach, FL

#74 May 24, 2009
As restaurant worker, I card as many people as possible or necessary. But, I find it ridiculous that I have to be the police. I resent that my livelihood and my clean record can be tarnished because I was entrapped.

Wire tapping and undercover cops are all fine and good for trying to catch real criminals, but just walking into a restaurant and arresting someone for selling a beer to someone coached to appear older is absolutely ridiculous.

If a restaurant or store pushes or encourages their employees to sell to minors, that is one thing. Otherwise it is like trying to kill off the mosquito population one mosquito at a time. It is ridiculous and a waste of time.

Spend our tax dollars making a difference with real crime and real criminals.
You know it

Longwood, FL

#75 May 24, 2009
Its amazing how so many of you morons feel that clerks selling to underage teens is apparently OK and the cops should just ignore it.
You know it

Longwood, FL

#76 May 24, 2009
blindleadingtheblind wrote:
As restaurant worker, I card as many people as possible or necessary. But, I find it ridiculous that I have to be the police. I resent that my livelihood and my clean record can be tarnished because I was entrapped.
Wire tapping and undercover cops are all fine and good for trying to catch real criminals, but just walking into a restaurant and arresting someone for selling a beer to someone coached to appear older is absolutely ridiculous.
If a restaurant or store pushes or encourages their employees to sell to minors, that is one thing. Otherwise it is like trying to kill off the mosquito population one mosquito at a time. It is ridiculous and a waste of time.
Spend our tax dollars making a difference with real crime and real criminals.
If you were to sell alcohol to an underage kid because YOU chose not to card them, and got arrested, how is that entrapment?

You obviously don't know what entrapment is.

An underage kid buying alcohol from people who are too lazy to to their job and card them, then getting a summons because they failed to do their legal duty, is not entrapment.

About this 'real criminal' crap, yes, it is a relatively minor crime in the grand scheme of things, but still one that should be enforced regardless. Just like someone driving like an reckless idiot through your neighborhood, relatively minor crime but one that should still be enforced.

Just do your job, don't sell alcohol to under 21, and no worries...pretty darn simple....
Sean

Orlando, FL

#77 May 24, 2009
I am no liberal but any insult coming from a far right retard I will take as a compliment.
kizzy wrote:
I love it..... liberals complaining when it's time to do what's right
whatever

Longwood, FL

#78 May 24, 2009
doug wrote:
Madd is nuts these arrests are practically entrapment and at a time when we have so many more important crimes to stop. Way to go officers for putting hard working folks in jail who otherwise are law abiding citizens just trying to earn a living.
It's not entrapment, come on already. Their job is to sell booze to people who are 21 and up. It's NOT that complicated. You have to ask for ID as part of your job. If you can't do your job, then find a job as a clerk where the age of the customer isn't an issue.
blah

Orlando, FL

#79 May 24, 2009
I'm surprised this even made the news. Cops due little ops like these rarely. One or so a year around times like prom and holidays. Everyone gripes the police aren't "catching real criminals" and "wasting time" Statements like that show ones ignorance to police work. Once a year a few undercovers go out and enforce a law to make sure the businesses are in compliance and DOING THEIR JOB!!! They get a little fine and boo hoo. These things have more power by setting an example and making sure everyone is doing their job.
JoeMan

Ocoee, FL

#80 May 24, 2009
It doesn't surprise me. After all, that almighty dollar is more important than someone drinking and driving. What's the worst thing that could happen - someone gets killed - oh please, money is worth more than that - right corporate America?
anonymous

Orlando, FL

#83 May 24, 2009
smokey bones should not be on this list. for one, this is entrapment. but secondly, the baretender KNEW personally two of the three cops. one cop even used to date one of the girls who used to work there, AND would come in with her and drink. so tell me how our bartender can get in trouble when she knew that they were of age, and why would a third, "underage", person come in with two cops and try to order a drink? REALLY?
This is a non issue

AOL

#84 May 24, 2009
The Orlando metro was just ranked the 6th most dangerous place in America. Don't the police have better things to do than go around harassing store clerks for selling beer to a 19 or 20-year-old?

21 is an illegitimate law. As such, you will never be able to enforce it effectively. An 18-year-old could have walked into that Wal-Mart and legally purchased a shotgun and ammo. Yet, he tried to buy a Bud Light instead, so the clerk goes to jail. Where's the logic in this.

Lower the drinking age back to 18 where it belongs and this "problem" will solve itself.
UpL8

Palm Bay, FL

#85 May 24, 2009
As a former bartender, a long time ago, I carded all the Rollins and UCF students and locals that came in to my full liquor bar. I have stopped in on occasion to Vintage Liquors on the corner of Howell Branch Rd. and 436 and have been witness to the sale of alcoholic beverages to individuals who looked like they were under 21. I made mention of it to the clerk and his response was "they gonna by it somewhere"...what an idiot.
poor taxpayer

Orlando, FL

#86 May 24, 2009
This is a non issue wrote:
The Orlando metro was just ranked the 6th most dangerous place in America. Don't the police have better things to do than go around harassing store clerks for selling beer to a 19 or 20-year-old?
21 is an illegitimate law. As such, you will never be able to enforce it effectively. An 18-year-old could have walked into that Wal-Mart and legally purchased a shotgun and ammo. Yet, he tried to buy a Bud Light instead, so the clerk goes to jail. Where's the logic in this.
Lower the drinking age back to 18 where it belongs and this "problem" will solve itself.
Don't look now, but the fascist Obama administration has just decided that you now need to be 21 to get a credit card!
UpL8

Palm Bay, FL

#87 May 24, 2009
anonymous wrote:
smokey bones should not be on this list. for one, this is entrapment. but secondly, the baretender KNEW personally two of the three cops. one cop even used to date one of the girls who used to work there, AND would come in with her and drink. so tell me how our bartender can get in trouble when she knew that they were of age, and why would a third, "underage", person come in with two cops and try to order a drink? REALLY?
Because the bartender, the one who serves the alcohol, is ultimately responsible for upholding the law. I agree with another poster that the drinking age should be 18 again...if you can die in service to your country in the military, then you should be able to consume alcohol. It doesn't matter who comes up to the bar with whomever...if you don't know for a fact that someone is 21 or over you must ask to see their ID. Until the law changes...the legal age to drink is 21.
Ronni

Clermont, FL

#88 May 24, 2009
I agree--that is a condition of employment in food service and liquor sales. The employees should be fired and the businesses should be fined for violating rules. There are plenty of other jobless people wo WOULD check ID if they got hired. I also agree with everyone who made points about drunk driving being a serious crime. Our police force is there for good reason, and they're not just there to focus on murders and what you folks are calling "real crime." If you got beat up by an officer, report it and fight it instead of randomly bitching on here about something completely unrelated.
Lisa wrote:
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No, but you can change employees for different ones.
UpL8

Palm Bay, FL

#89 May 24, 2009
When I was a teen I asked my dad if I could have one of his beers. He said yes and have one with me. His logic was "you know you can't drink in public until you're 18, but I don't want you going out there without knowing how haveing a beer is going to make you feel". He and I sat on the back porch and sipped, not pounded, our ice cold beers and talked. Every once in a while he asked me how I was feeling. I said I felt fine. After about an hour we were finished and we talked a bit more and I said I had to go to the bathroom. I got up, wobbled a bit, and my dad said "this is what it does to you". Wow. Was I surprised. I wobbled back from the bathroom and my dad and I had a long talk about the effects of alcohol on the mind and body and how alcohol should be enjoyed and not abused. He taught me that I should be in control of what I drink and not let the pressure of 'friends' play a part in drinking. I have been a bartender and have been at many social functions and have had the opportunity to see people in various states of intoxication. The majority of folks I've seen do know how to socially drink and are responsible. There are some that just don't get it and, as adults, never will. Each person must be responsible for their own actions and parents need to take an active role in teaching their children how to handle situations. So many teens go off to college without a clue as to how alcohol will make them feel and they are thrown into an environment that mixes alcohol with immaturity and ignorance. I still enjoy an ice cold beer after yard work or a nice glass of wine with dinner. I'm teaching my children the same way my dad taught me. My teenager is allowed to have some wine with us at dinner and like me, will grow up controlling her drinking instead of drinking controlling her.

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