Police: Marie Moore used rented gun in murder-suicide; actions ...

[Eilee]

Waldo, I felt bad when I read those last posts. I do not think there is anything wrong with bringing up situations that were portrayed in movies. I could tell you were using the example to make a difficult point. I am glad to see that some people have an open enough mind to allow for other possibilities beyond what is obvious. You see how you were immediately attacked by "the voice of reason". Who then (inexplicably) made it PERSONAL against you.(?????)

I hope you continue on the road of compassionate thinking. This was a horrible tragedy. However, oversimplification of the situation and firing back with funny but brutal responses keeps us all in the dark.

We must continue to search for answers and throw out all types of ideas. Even if what you contribute isn't 100% accurate, a kernel of truth could inspire a new insight from another reader ... and really ... THAT is the wonder of these boards and the possibilities for interaction that would have otherwise been impossible.

I THANK YOU for your comment. Also, should I see that movie come on HBO or PPV I will watch it.

[Brian from Texas]

Eilee wrote:

Waldo, I felt bad when I read those last posts. I do not think there is anything wrong with bringing up situations that were portrayed in movies. I could tell you were using the example to make a difficult point. I am glad to see that some people have an open enough mind to allow for other possibilities beyond what is obvious. You see how you were immediately attacked by "the voice of reason". Who then (inexplicably) made it PERSONAL against you.(?????)
I hope you continue on the road of compassionate thinking. This was a horrible tragedy. However, oversimplification of the situation and firing back with funny but brutal responses keeps us all in the dark.
We must continue to search for answers and throw out all types of ideas. Even if what you contribute isn't 100% accurate, a kernel of truth could inspire a new insight from another reader ... and really ... THAT is the wonder of these boards and the possibilities for interaction that would have otherwise been impossible.
I THANK YOU for your comment. Also, should I see that movie come on HBO or PPV I will watch it.

Okay Eilee, Please enlighten us all with your "companionate thinking". How would you have prevented this crazy woman from hurting others?

[Waldo]

Brian from Texas wrote:

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This twisted way of thinking is the very reason why Mitchell Moore is now dead.
No Waldo, I don't get my ideas from the movies nor do I base my logic on what they do in Hollywood... This woman is not a "little crazy". She shot her own son in the head... She's ghoulishly INSANE and should have been locked up long ago when she demonstrated "clear signs" of harmful mental behavior. I don't however expect people like you with your twisted logic to understand this. Its people like you who make apologies for the perpetrators of crimes and evil doings and then paint them as the "victims".
I believe that you have a history of mental disorders in your own family and that is why you are apologizing for this crazed Ghoul.

I certainly was not defending this woman for doing what she did to her son and to herself. I think she WAS very mentally ill. My suggestion was to look at the hospital she was sent to to try to find out what kind of treatment she was given. It obviously did not work. In fact it seemed to have made it much worse in that she had no intention of ever seeking help again or getting committed again. She prefered taking out her son and herself than to get help. And she was able to hide it well enough to plot and plan this horrible event.

"Changling" is a Hollywood movie but it is based on a true story. In the 20's the police DID send this woman to a mental hospital because she would not cooperate with the police by sticking with their story. Look up "Wineville Chicken Coop Murders" if you want to really understand insanity. Because of the reluctance of the police to actually catch her son's killer this guy remained free to murder again and again.(In the real story it was the guy
AND his mother that kidnapped and killed young boys.)

Also you did't mention China and other countries who still commit people to mental intitutions for not following the party line.

There are truly mentally ill people who need to be institutionalized. But not everyone who acts a bit crazy is a danger. And no -- none of my family has ever been institutionalized. So I am guessing you have had personal family history of mental disorder that you, and only you can have an opinion about this?

What disturbs me is the number of ads for medications that will "cure" people of depression, as if a little pill will fix everything. They show someone who obviously looks sad. The person takes the wonder drug and is happy. So easy. But wait. The side effects are suicidal thoughts and committing suicide. So you can look happy but still be suicidal? Doesn't it take just a little more than a pill to fix anything?

The easy answer is just institutionalize anyone who might be mentally ill to protect themselves and others. How do you do a sweep up of mentally ill people and who gets to make that determination?

There are no easy answers. I only posed an opinion that maybe that hospital she went to should be looked at. Not condemning the hospital but to find out why she was released. How could she "seem" stable enough to be released and what can we learn from that?

[Ivan Monet]

This isn't a gun problem, it's a people problem. If she used a machete to do her son and herself, would we ban knives? If she used rat poison would we ban all chemicals? If she used a car, would we ban autos? We can't ban fruit loop nut cases from gaining access to every item that can be used to off another person! What we need is a social and legal system that removes fruit loop nut cases like this from society! Jim Jones used poison and Kool Aid Drink mix to kill hundreds, should we ban Kool Aid? This woman would have completed her mission with hundreds of other methods. Let's get to the real source of the problem and solve it !! Why do we allow Nut Cases like this woman unfettered access to our society? Why was she allowed to have children, ohh wait a second, we could ban children and solve the whole problem. I can’t believe so many people want to build a plastic bubble world where nothing that can possibly cause a human damage is allowed to be possessed by the 99 and 99100ths of normal, responsible society that would never use these things against another person to try to stop the actions of a handful of nut cases that will always find some means to perform their deadly actions, no matter what we ban!
Never underestimate the ingenuity of the village idiot! THESE NUT CASES ARE THE TRUE PROBLEM! Collect them put them away under lock and key and protect us all from them!

[ginksel]

I need a license to drive a car. I have to take classes to operate a personal watercraft. I have to have a license to buy a gun. But I dont have to have a license to rent a gun. That policy plus on dangerous woment equal one dead son. The law is an ass to allow this to take place.

[just me]

RnMommy wrote:

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Oh, but i do!!! If this the"King"... You should have seen this coming! YOu could have protected us all from the headache that we are going through now. Stop making excused for the insanity that is Marie Moore and just realize that she was certifiable.. And go would have never asked her to harm her son. That should have been your first clue!

brm is a friend of marie and they all knew marie was sick well thats what brm made a comment on mitchel's memorial page and her(brm) mom(pm/pam that is mentioned on the tape) is trying to give advice to mitchel's girlfriend, i think thats like meking a deal with the devil!

[just me]

BRM wrote:

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Are you freaking serious? The gun range was completely at fault. After the mother was first banned from there, they should of plastered her picture by all cash registers and/or desks. She should have never been allowed in there a second time. Until Florida law changes, neither I nor my family will be going to a shooting range; you have no clue who can be standing next to you with a gun in their hand. Scary!

brm- if you read the momerial page for mitchel-fried wrote mother was sick!-also old neighborhood roumer was that marie's mom hung herself, do u know the answere to that one?

[spellman]

soooo screwed up...

[mine]

just me wrote:

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brm- if you read the momerial page for mitchel-fried wrote mother was sick!-also old neighborhood roumer was that marie's mom hung herself, do u know the answere to that one?

Thank you,
PAM YOU ARE ONE ( and your daughters) that Knew Msrie wss really effup...