Investigators: Shasta County man guns down thief

Investigators say an Anderson man shot and killed an acquaintance he caught allegedly trying to steal tools and other equipment from his property.

[Same Stuff Different Day]

Oh sure...just when I wrote about hardly any crimes in Anderson. Don't worry. I inserted my own foot in my mouth. Sheesh

[concerned citizen]

Thats why all of us law abiding folks need to be armed.
What do you think the thief was going to do split a cold beer with him very unlikly.
Just one less crook in northern california .

[Wooie]

Amen! I sleep with a hand gun. I'm not calling 911 and wait around for the cops while I get killed by some loser gangster / drug dealer

[Wooie]

Don't get me wrong. I'm a tiny thing. I prefere to stay peacefull on my back porch with my container garden, water fountain and cats. But if anyone comes over and threatens my chickens, cats, pit bull or me then 240 hollow points are
are going to start flying. I am a second amementer with two ten round clips in a ten mill Ruguar. I refuse to be a victum.

[tired of it]

read it & weep you thievin tweekers!! maybe you won;t be out at 3am tryin to rip us off!! the next 1 could be you! are you feeling lucky punk?

[Cedric]

Robber takes victim's handgun, too

www.timesheraldonline.com/news/ci_12832032

[Publican]

So you all think that a possible theft of garden tools warrants murder? Sounds like you all are just itching to start blasting away, with only the barest of excuses.(And no, I am not in favor of removing gun ownership from citizens.)

[Juice]

Publican wrote:

So you all think that a possible theft of garden tools warrants murder? Sounds like you all are just itching to start blasting away, with only the barest of excuses.(And no, I am not in favor of removing gun ownership from citizens.)

This is not murder! Its self defense! The man was trespassing in a ranch neighborhood to thieve. Do you think he was going to pet the horses at 3:30am? If this happened to every thief, crime would dramatically drop. If the victim ran to his phone to call the cops first, the thief would have gotten away, and would have done the same thing to another person. I appreciate the community service Farmer John.

[Publican]

Juice wrote:

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This is not murder! Its self defense! The man was trespassing in a ranch neighborhood to thieve. Do you think he was going to pet the horses at 3:30am? If this happened to every thief, crime would dramatically drop. If the victim ran to his phone to call the cops first, the thief would have gotten away, and would have done the same thing to another person. I appreciate the community service Farmer John.

Can you say escalation? The shooter was not in danger, his house was not being invaded. He heard noise outside in an area detached from his house, and instead of calling the cops first, went and gunned down an acquaintance for stealing tools.

If the thief had gotten away... wow... some tools would be missing. In place of missing tools, and a perfectly credible witness who could have identified the burglar, we have a murder. In your post you imply that calling the police was an improper impediment to a perfectly good shooting.

[oh well]

this is a perfect example of why i am glad i no longer live in calif. ever hear of the castle doctrine? basically it states you have the right to protect your self and your property from invasion. we here in kentucky live by it, and it works, check the crime statistics and you will see that states that have the castle doctrine have lower crime rates. criminals know they are apt to be shot and killed i concealed carry a firearm all the time and have several loaded guns in my home, come steal from me and die.

[Publican]

oh well wrote:

this is a perfect example of why i am glad i no longer live in calif. ever hear of the castle doctrine? basically it states you have the right to protect your self and your property from invasion. we here in kentucky live by it, and it works, check the crime statistics and you will see that states that have the castle doctrine have lower crime rates. criminals know they are apt to be shot and killed i concealed carry a firearm all the time and have several loaded guns in my home, come steal from me and die.

You would kill someone for stealing a shovel.

[ppm]

Publican wrote:

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You would kill someone for stealing a shovel.

Shovel? I thought he had a gun!
No lie
No cheat
No steal....

[oh well]

Publican wrote:

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You would kill someone for stealing a shovel.

yes of course i would, steal from me once shame on you steal from me twice shame on me. a thief is a thief no matter what they steal, and what if they tried to hit me with that shovel i should not defend myself?

[fists are for punching]

i would rather lose a tool than kill a family member or friend. of course i would try to stop it, but it's not worth murdering someone over.

[Ocean View]

The law makes a distinction between the use of force for self-defense and the use of force for the protection of property. Deadly force is permissable for the former but not the latter. Unfortunately, the story can't be accessed through the link posted here, so I don't know the specifics. If the shooting occurred outside and the thief wasn't armed or threatening, I wouldn't be surprised to see a charge of first degree manslaughter being considered against the shooter.

[Rsnake460]

Publican wrote:

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Can you say escalation? The shooter was not in danger, his house was not being invaded. He heard noise outside in an area detached from his house, and instead of calling the cops first, went and gunned down an acquaintance for stealing tools.
If the thief had gotten away... wow... some tools would be missing. In place of missing tools, and a perfectly credible witness who could have identified the burglar, we have a murder. In your post you imply that calling the police was an improper impediment to a perfectly good shooting.

Some of us make our living with tools. The stealing of which is a threat to the well being of our families.I have had tools stolen before and it is not cheap to replace them. However, work must still be done.If I were to catch someone stealing tools, I would give them some shooting and then some extra for the ones that I didn't catch before.Death to lowlife tool thieves!!!

[Ocean View]

Rsnake460 wrote:

<quoted text> Some of us make our living with tools. The stealing of which is a threat to the well being of our families. I have had tools stolen before and it is not cheap to replace them. However, work must still be done. If I were to catch someone stealing tools, I would give them some shooting and then some extra for the ones that I didn't catch before. Death to lowlife tool thieves!!!

I fail to understand how committing manslaughter and spending a several years in jail for it will improve one's own life. Lethal force is justifiable for self-defense only, not for the protection of property.

[Rsnake460]

Ocean View wrote:

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I fail to understand how committing manslaughter and spending a several years in jail for it will improve one's own life. Lethal force is justifiable for self-defense only, not for the protection of property.

Then just set your belongings out on the curb so you will not have to worry about being stolen from or protecting your property.Passive attitude = victim.Good luck with that.

[Barb]

Wonder why he was stealing the "shovel"....? Maybe to do "harm" with it....? duh! Publican, R U $ real?

Publican wrote:

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You would kill someone for stealing a shovel.

[Koalabear2525]

oh well he will not steal no more . why is this on line for so long . watch the ch 5 news tonight about those punk kids rodding stores and gas stations in San Refael