Tucson punk band: Kill a Cop for God

[Little Johny Mohawk]

idEoise, I like how intellectually you presented all of that.

the march was against Arpaio, he's a racist bastard with bullshit policies

as for what Hite did to all of us, he was one of the cops who would actually go out and find people he knew were obeying the law but he deemed useless or disgusting
there were many a time he'd roll up to a group of us and search us because "he smelt weed/alcohol"
if you said anything, him and whichever other musker he was with would beat the fuck out of you
there was one instance where we know FOR A FACT he planted drugs on a buddy of mine

[Curtis Penney]

Little Johny Mohawk wrote:

idEoise, I like how intellectually you presented all of that.
the march was against Arpaio, he's a racist bastard with bullshit policies
as for what Hite did to all of us, he was one of the cops who would actually go out and find people he knew were obeying the law but he deemed useless or disgusting
there were many a time he'd roll up to a group of us and search us because "he smelt weed/alcohol"
if you said anything, him and whichever other musker he was with would beat the fuck out of you
there was one instance where we know FOR A FACT he planted drugs on a buddy of mine

You are so f*cking full of s*it. You and your turd a$$ friends can't take a f*cking charge like a man and own up to s*it and try to make a good man look bad. Whatever......
You d*cks claim yall are so f*cking hardcore, is it possible that one of your mouths ran over your ego and it got knocked down a bit. Seems to me you like to fight, you asked for it and you got it, so whats the point in complaining about it now....poor poor poor victims of being from across the tracks. I would suggest just running away next time, but I guess it sort of hard to run in those skinny jeans and keys dangling from your hip....
Long live Arpaio....

[Little Johny Mohawk]

See, Penney, again you call us emos
you were told, those kids haunt the mall
anyone with skinnys gets laughed and badgered away

We DO own up to our shit
I'll call out that I'm Trip S anytime, especially when a musker rolls through
I wasn't complaining about anything, idEoise asked what Hite did, I informed him
he wasn't a good man at all
I mean, we're no saints either, and you're right, a lot of us like to run our mouths and fight, but that doesn't change the fact that the cops here will straight beat us
"I don't consent to this search" aren't exactly fighting words around most places, but a lot of the time that'll get you downed around here

I'd still like to see you're fat ass down here
I really want to roll you

[Curtis Penney]

Sounds like you challenge the authority to fight and you get it....so dont fucking call it beating when you lose....ok?

As far as your fat ass comment, I'm far from it. I run three to five miles a day, bench 285, squat 500, leg press over a 1000 and do a kettle bell core training four days a week. You wouldnt roll shit...

[Steven Perrine]

I view the police force as a gang. Plain and simple they steal our money and drugs to make more money and they only way they know to assert their power is tyranny and penal servitude. Copyright laws are just for people who are worried about making money and not REAL music. Freedom of expression and press are important values. Yet whats the point if it's not free to enjoy them. Oh the police you bunch of cowardice tyrants get a real job and stop stealing our tax money and freedoms. Personally to me the only good cops are dead cops. A.C.A.B.

[tucsonian]

Millions of Dead Cops is playing at Dry River tonight for $10 donations

also, Penney:
"roll" is a term the triple s uses to mean "beat the hell out of"
Johny's wanting to roll you and the fat insult were two separate things
I'm pretty sure you would get rolled

[idEoise]

Thanks.. I don't think Arpaio is actually racist, I think he's trying to stop the 60% of illegals who are latino and coming over our part of the border & into AZ. The other 40% is comprised of all the other illegals from other backgrounds, and AZ doesn't get an equal number of illegals, by percentage. That said, I do think he is a fan of making people suffer whom he deems "less than human", whether they are a mexican, guatemalan, german, korean, american, or grampa joe who has cancer and got caught using pot for it. Once people are in his clutches, they are scum and don't deserve proper treatment. I do have some respect for Arpaio but I also despise him for maintaining medically dangerous facilities, ie- inhumane treatment. I'm really surprised that there haven't been more deaths and seriously, permanently damaged people. I hope that nothing is being hidden/covered up.

That sucks about your experiences with Officer Hite.(Interesting name.) I've had similiar with bad cops. Sadly, even fairly innocent interaction with cops has become hazardous to the publics health because they all seem to have PTSD anymore and act as such, even on something as simple as a traffic stop for going 5 mph over the speed limit!

We pay their salaries, they work for us, not vice versa. Its time they remember that and start treating the public with courtesy and decency, rather than trying to install the fear of god in everyone. Yes, there are times when a cop or other law enforcement need to be a hard *ss. But not ALL the freaking time!

Sorry it took me so long to reply.. its likely to happen again too, unfortunately.

I'm glad you protested! I may not fully agree about Arpaio but at least you DID something to try and make a difference!! And standing up, protesting, is a sign of a damn good American patriot.

My quote - "There is no such thing as an 'illegal immigrant'. There are 'illegal aliens' and there are 'immigrants', but NO 'illegal immigrants'." I love immigrants! This media/lobbyist spin to try pretend one word means something it doesn't, really irritates me. It an attempt to soften the truth and harsh reality, getting people used to something so it doesn't seem so bad.

Little Johny Mohawk wrote:

idEoise, I like how intellectually you presented all of that.
the march was against Arpaio, he's a racist bastard with bullshit policies
as for what Hite did to all of us, he was one of the cops who would actually go out and find people he knew were obeying the law but he deemed useless or disgusting
there were many a time he'd roll up to a group of us and search us because "he smelt weed/alcohol"
if you said anything, him and whichever other musker he was with would beat the fuck out of you
there was one instance where we know FOR A FACT he planted drugs on a buddy of mine

[idEoise]

Are you really a cop? No offense but you don't sound mentally nor emotionally stable enough to be a cop. Or, the job has been awfully hard on you,(and I know it IS hard), but you sound like an aggressive teenager putting up a face of bravado so as to scare all the other predators away. You'll probably go off on me for this reply, but seriously, you should talk to someone. Or perhaps take some time off or work/volunteer somewhere where you can see the good in people.

As for being physically superior in some ways, its not always the big guy that wins. When I was 15, I weighed 140, stood 5'5", and hadn't learned how to fight properly. I was just a brawler then and it took 3 cops, 2 VERY large ones, and a normal sized guy. All 3 were male too. And I'm female. Anyway, it took 3 of them to take me down and hog tie me. This wasn't a nice, mellow-like juvenile take down. It was nasty, and I wasn't even on drugs. If I hadn't lifted my head to yell back and cuss them out some more, they would have broken my jaw too, as they slid me, hogtied onto the back/trunk of the police car. There was some black, rectangular thing in the middle of the trunk lid, and I just missed it.

Today they probably would have just tazzed my butt, lol. I got into alot of fights back then, mostly with men. That was before I started taking MA. Now I'm all broken up from those physical abuses to my body, I still train, though much gentler now, and I'm pretty sure I could still defend myself, even against you. Albeit, I'd have to maim you or worse, considering my condition and your own excellent condition. I couldn't be nice and respond in levels, not and still be sure I didn't get seriously hurt.

I miss the days I could fight without damaging anything too badly!! My body was not made for the extent of brawling that I did.. my joints are too small & my "Margaret Thatchers" too big. ;) If I had learned how to fight properly back then, I think I would have been okay.

Curtis Penney wrote:

Sounds like you challenge the authority to fight and you get it....so dont fucking call it beating when you lose....ok?
As far as your fat ass comment, I'm far from it. I run three to five miles a day, bench 285, squat 500, leg press over a 1000 and do a kettle bell core training four days a week. You wouldnt roll shit...

[idEoise]

PS.

Little Johnny Mohawk is telling the truth about Punks getting harassed and attacked while not committing ANY crimes. Back in the day, in Tucson, we could be walking down the street in the middle of the day, not even smoking a cig... only to be profiled, harassed, and even physically abused by whatever officer stopped. Just one example - I was a Punk, underaged, on my way to high school, walking. The cop followed me and my friend for about half a block before he stopped us, harassed us, and patted us both down. He made us late for school,(not that that mattered to me at the time, but still..), and I don't think it was legal for him to touch us, as we were underaged and I'm female. It happens, it shouldn't. Or at least not as commonly as it does.

[idEoise]

Why don't you guys find a local dojo or boxing gym? That way you could set it up properly, with insurance waivers and all that good stuff? Wish I could come watch.. really, I wish I could fight still,:p it would be fun! I miss fighting. And sparring is not quite the same thing.

Duck wrote:

It's funny, officer Penney, that you have essentially threatened to kick our asses twice now, and we've given you a date, place, and time, and yet, you have not said whether you will or won't be there

[none of your bussiness]

Mike wrote:

A dead cop is not a fallen hero. Do I agree with using the photo? NO! Very distasteful and yet it garnered them all the publicity they were looking for.

a dead cop is a fallen hero no matter what if he lived to protect he/she is a hero. Ecspecially if they die in the line of duty.

[Nicole]

Steven Perrine wrote:

I view the police force as a gang. Plain and simple they steal our money and drugs to make more money and they only way they know to assert their power is tyranny and penal servitude. Copyright laws are just for people who are worried about making money and not REAL music. Freedom of expression and press are important values. Yet whats the point if it's not free to enjoy them. Oh the police you bunch of cowardice tyrants get a real job and stop stealing our tax money and freedoms. Personally to me the only good cops are dead cops. A.C.A.B.

A resl job? really? what do you do for a living? U are a f*cking A*shole. The only good cop is a dead cop? lets see you become a police officer. Or better yet lets see you live 1 week with out the police.

[Duck]

There have been studies done where police in major cities were asked to stop patrolling certain areas of different demographics, i.e. the "ghettos" AND the rich area, for weeks or months at a time. These studies found that the crimes rates DID NOT go up, even with a police force absent.

[murna]

When my house was getting broken into and I had two small children in the home it took the police 90 minutes to get to my house and the police station is 5 minutes away. My mother was raped as a teenager by a cop that lived in her building and he threatened to put her and her family in jail if she ever told.
Cops are not pristine beings, a lot are lazy and criminals themselves. I see them using their lights to get down to 7 11 for free coffee. They need to work on improving their image if they want people to think they are as great as they think they are.

[Freedom Lover]

Actually, I was abused by a Cop; however, I don't judge them as "all" bad or weak 'cause they are in a Gang we pay for. I discern every person by who they are, period. And, I'm sorry for the Fatherless chilren whom get left to hopefully not become those street kids who are so harshly judged.

[Bella Storm]

Thats so disgusting!! Those of you who believe it to be ok... the use of the officers photo on the cd. Your moral compass is way off! We are lucky to have freedom of speech but with it should come respect! Cop or not... You have a picture of a PERSON who is dead on the cover of a cd that mocks and disrespects not only him but all his friends and family who see it. Should we use a picture of one of your dead family members or friends and turn it into a joke so everytime you see it you feel what his family feels?? Cop or not. Last point, if youre not too naive to grasp this simple concept... It is wrong to judge people for the color of their skin! It should be obvious that you cant judge anybody PERIOD!! Just because he was a cop You little kids in this band decide that you can lump him in with anyother cop they may have been crroked. Well Then... I know some people in a band that are crack heads so then is it safe to lump you into that group cause... You are in a band! Im sure all this went right over your heads. Hopefully one day you guys grow up!! This whole wanna be punk cop hating thing doesnt make you seem cool. Just illeducated. R.I.P. Officer Hite

[Freedom Lover]

I'd love to see respect from human to human no matter what position in life.

[Donut Man]

Hero's don't save lives for money. Is that not true? Not that cops don't serve a purpose, but hero's do stuff not looking for anything in return. I see us spending money daily.

[Freedom Lover]

Excellent point... City Police are paid by us to "Protect & Serve". As most of us are much to aware, they have become their own definition of a "Criminal Street Gang". We could change this by raising their educational level requirements, training & pay scales. We could clearly define job descriptions like the Military does. In fact, maybe it would be a requirement to serve time for our Country before one would be accepted into Police work. We need Mandatory Drug & Alcohol screening as this line of duty too often falls prey to that type of illness. Traffic Police to focus on traffic issues. Domestic Police, Youth Police, etc...with their own area of expertise. Furthering education motivated with increased earnings. And, very importantly - No Tolerance For Bullys &/or Corruption.

[Donut Man]

The only thing of importance to these heros is to setup speed traps and Revenue Enhancement Zones. Screw the people. You are supposed to call these idiots SIR! Freaking over-sized hall monitors.

They should dedicate themselves to eating donuts and ripping off the public.