Totalitarian Government Dystopia
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#1 Aug 2, 2014
The Future Will Be A Totalitarian Government Dystopia
By Timothy Geist
I am sad to say, the future shall be a bleak one indeed. Such visionary authors as George Orwell and Robert Heinlein have mapped out the hellish future that awaits.
By the end of this century, the Earth will be controlled by a single unified world governmenta government solely dedicated to perpetuating itself and keeping the populace under control. The first and greatest casualty of this New World Order shall be personal liberty.
Humans will live in identical, low-ceilinged, one-roomed concrete dwellings, outfitted with little more than a bed and a telescreen, arranged in endless grid patterns stretching to the horizon. Our bleary-eyed descendants 100 years hence shall shuffle between their assigned tasks in gray, one-piece coveralls. What few possessions they enjoy will be meted out by the government, and even these spare trinkets will be small and inexpensivea plastic comb, a morsel of chocolate, a new pair of shoes when the old ones have worn to unwearability.
Citizens will be assigned to various vocational fields, the most common being propaganda, bureaucracy, and the police. Those who perform with unerring loyalty will be rewarded with slightly larger dwellings and the right to lower the volume of their telescreens.
Unremovable electronic trackers will be implanted in our brains, monitoring our whereabouts and thoughts at all times. Citizens who harbor anti-authoritarian sentiments will be swiftly seized by jackbooted secret police and either put to deatha procedure filmed and displayed via telescreen as a grim warning to other would-be dissentersor rehabilitated into blind servitude through torture and brainwashing.
Food will be prepared by machines and served in drab public mess halls. No fruits and vegetables for future-man: Every meal will be a flavorless, grainy paste designed to provide just enough nutrition to sustain life and nothing moreany more energy and the powers that be risk rebellion.
Oh, how I dread the future. May God protect our yet-unborn children.
Alternative views welcome....
#3 Aug 2, 2014
I don't know anything about this book "The Future Will Be A Totalitarian Government Dystopia" by Timothy Geist.
But, it it's anything like the book "1984" by George Orwell - you need to realize that this type of book is written for ONE REASON only - and that is to make MONEY FOR THE AUTHOR!!!
First of all, just consider the title of the book. The word "dystopia" means "imaginary" - that is something that is conjured up in the authors mind - NOT REAL - and certainly not to be taken seriously!
When comparing this book to George Orwell's book "1984" - you must keep in mind that "1984" (which was written in 1949) was never written or was it intended to be a prediction of the future - but as a SCIENCE FICTION novel.
That means that it was written for the reader's enjoyment as PURE FICTION - just like thousands of other fiction novels.
Yes, I realize that books like the book you mention & "1984" are highly esteemed & loved by those people who are among the "Conspiratorial Theorists", but - you need to keep these books in perspective - and realize - they are just PURE WORKS OF FICTION!
This reminds me of the mass confusion about the book of REVELATIONS in the Bible.
Millions of people are confused & think the book of Revelations is a prediction of things to come at the end of time - the end of the world.
They are constantly comparing events that are happening in our world & comparing them to the dire warnings in the book of Revelations - but the truth is - the book of Revelations was written by the apostle John - about the COMING DESTRUCTION OF THE CITY OF JERUSALEM - which happened in AD 70!
All of those predictions & dire warnings have already happened in AD 70!
Also, much of the book of Revelations is written in highly FIGURATIVE LANGUAGE - and not to be taken literally.
What I mean by that is - much of the writings in Revelation is words & phrases describing something entirely different that the actual words used themselves - so, the book of Revelations can be difficult to understand for a person who has limited knowledge of the ENTIRE BIBLE...
#4 Aug 2, 2014
Timothy Geist is a journalist/historian/commentat or who wrote the aforementioned article. It's obvious his opinions about what the future holds, were influenced by Aldous Huxley, George Orwell and Isaac Asimov' s dystopian views. That in no way discredits his opinion. I would argue that because so many different brilliant thinkers and visionaries from different ages and different countries arrive at similar outcomes adds credence to his views.
This view of the future has been around for over 100 years now. Forget about the dates (1984) but look instead at what's going on in the world today. Are people gaining more personal freedoms or less? Is the government more interested in protecting we taxpaying citizens or controlling us? Is the NSA spying on you or protecting you? Why does Homeland Security stockpile weapons and ammo while it gets harder and more expensive for citizens to get. What do you think the affordable healthcare act was all about? It certainly wasn't affordably. My opinion is, it was about control.
I didn't say I agree with all Mr. First predicts. Trends and government actions tell me he definitely could be on the right track.
You were quick to discount his vision, but failed to offer one of your own. This is your chance to tell us what you really think.
Since: Oct 11
#5 Aug 3, 2014
#6 Aug 3, 2014
Squid Billy Gene
now Virgil Caine.....ALL DOUG EDWARDS
"I never post under any name other than Comrade Winston"
"I never read your posts"
"I never judge anyones posts"
But I sure as hell get under that thin WIMP COWARD skin of your Doug!
#7 Aug 3, 2014
Did you play in the mud this weekend Doug?
FA LA LA LA LA LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
#8 Aug 3, 2014
(part 1 of my answer to the above questions)
How is it you decided to turn this discussion of ficticous predictions of the future into a political discussion? I actually have more to say to you concerning these ficticous writings - but, I will have to say it on another post.
I will first answer your political questions & get them out of the way.
Concerning our personal freedoms - I know you're implying that Obama has taken away some of our freedoms & you are correct.
Here is a freedom we have lost under Obama:
1. The Freedom from having - FAIR UNCORRUPTED ELECTIONS. Yes, REPUBLICAN SUPREME COURT JUDGES signed a bill into law which makes it legal for big business & the wealthy to pump UNLIMITED SUMS OF MONEY to politicians to use in their political campaigns - thereby, literally BUYING ELECTIONS... This lost freedom is BAD for the whole country.
Here are some of the GOOD freedoms we've lost under Obama:
2. The freedom of insurance companies being able to deny coverage for pre-existing conditions.
3. 95% of Americans lost the freedom to pay higher taxes.
4. The freedom of coal companies to spew large amounts of pollution into the air we breath.
5. The freedom from people going bankrupt from hundereds of thousands of dollars in medical bills.
NO, NO, NO! NASA - is not spying on us!!!
Our country is not in the business of controlling us - they are in the business of PROTECTING US FROM foreign enemies, terrorist & protecting us from NOT being able to have medical care when we're sick...
#9 Aug 3, 2014
(part 2 answer to the above questions)
In reference to the FALSE RUMOR about the Dept. of Homeland Security stockpiling guns & ammo - here's the TRUE STORY OF THE AMMO PURCHASED...
On Feb 5, 2013, the DHS issued an order for AMMO (no guns) to be purchased & delivered to the DHS Federal Law Enforcment Training Center in Artesia, New Mexico. The ammo purchased was "Commerical Lead Training AMMO.
There were 3 components to the order:
.40 caliber, 165 jacketed hollow point rounds
9 mm, 115 grain jacketed hollow rounds
9 mm, 124 grain ball ammunition
This was a total of 240,000 ROUNDS -(one for round for every employee of the DHS - which includes the Citizenship & Immigrations Services, Customs & Border Control, Immigration & Customs Enforcment, TSA, FEMA, The Coast Guard & The Secret Service).
Now, here's where the RIGHT-WING LIE came about...
On Feb 7, 2013,- these 3 right-wing media sources - THE EXAMINER, THE BLAZE, & THE INFOWARS - FALSELY REPORTED - that - The DHS had stockpiled 21,600,000 rounds of AMMO at the New Mexico training center.
It's hard for me to believe (all three) of these right-wing media sources - just made a simple typographical error in reporting this 21,6000,000 figure!
NO, I TRULY BELIEVE THIS WAS JUST ANOTHER FEAR-MONGERING LIE to try to discredit the Obama administration.
What is the Affordable Care Act all about, you ask?
I could sit here till doomsday & try to convince you that Obamacare will be GOOD FOR EVERY AMERICAN - but I would just be wasting my time on someone who is as obviously brain-washed & closed mind as you are.
What I can say is that Republicans behaved the very same way when FDR passed Social Security & again when LBJ passed Medicare - they fought tooth & nail to kill Social Security & Medicare the same way they've been trying to kill Obamacare...
And, can you just imagine where America would be today had neither of these programs ever came about? How many millions of elderly people would have died from manlutrition, homelessness & lack of medical attention.
But, I guess I just have to realize - we're talking about Republicans who are fighting Obamacare tooth & nail - just like they did SS & Medicare.
Some things never seem to change...
I guess there's NO WAY TO FIX STUPID!!!
What is hard to believe though - is that many of these Republican ANGRY OLD MEN - ARE THE VERY PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING HOME DRAWING THEIR S.S. & MEDICARE - WHILE THEIR CUSSING OBAMA & DEMOCRATS...
That's what I call biting the hand that feeds them...
#10 Aug 3, 2014
Jesus BIG Govt Protecting Us?? I can do that on my own! Its the Problem with You Liberals You want to TAKE away My freedom of CHOICE and you call it protecting me!! I had A GREAT Medical plan Before Obama Stepped in and screwed up everything.....
NASA has noting to do with spying NASA is in Space exploration Nimrod the NSA was AND still do A lot of spying... Obama has done NOTHING to stop the NSA from eavesdropping on any and ALL cell phone calls.... He could have stopped the NSA's secret data collection warehouse in Utah from being built but it went ahead and was completed under his Tenure and is know operational, if He was against Snooping WHY didn't he stop this?????..
The Closing of Coal fired Electric Plants are going to cost US the Middle class tax payer ONCE again in HIGHER rates JUST as his Health care plan did!! YOU can not CLOSE Power Plants and expect new Clean energy plants to open the next day to off set The Demand .. Many States Especially the eastern seaboard cities will feel the Pinch this Winter even MOREr once Demand goes up when the Temps go down..
Many told Obama The same thing on his Health care plan YOU can not Add an extra 8 million into the health care system (Half are Free Mind you) and expect the Middle class to ONCE again bear the burden of Higher Premiums in their Plans to offset those that wont pay!! he did it anyway!!
Plus With the Influx of All these New Patients not adding one new Doctor or Nurse to offset those new 8 million is going to Burden the Health care system to the point of wait times for Medical procedures will be lengthened to Months or years instead of The days that we had!!!
ALSO your 95% of people not paying higher tax's?? your A freakin NUT thinking that Obama care is not costing us anything,who the Phuk do you think is paying for it?? WE THE MIDDLE CLASS AGAIN!! what A dumb ass......If you Stick your head up Obama's Ass any further you'll know what he has for Lunch the next day Alumni!!!!!!!
#11 Aug 3, 2014
Do you know what a freaking idiot you make of yourself everytime you get on this forum and start bashing Obama & Democrats. Here you are, a grown man who sits at his computer day & night trashing Obama & Democrats who are fighting tooth & nail trying to save those benefits you're enjoying - like Veterans benefits, Social Security & Medicare.
And, besides that - if it had not been for Democrats - you never would have had any of those benefits in the first place...
Don't you know it was REPUBLICANS who absolutely refused to raise benefits for veterans? Yes, they finally at the 11th hour passed a scaled down bill to raise benefits for veterans - and they only did that to cover their butts when they go back home to their constituents for their month long vacation.
Jerry, what's wrong with you - don't you know you're actually biting the hand that's trying to feed you???
Thankfully (for the good of this country), your breed of right-wing ANGRY OLD MEN ditto-heads are soon going to all be extinct...
#12 Aug 4, 2014
Again More Lies From The Liberal Left.. and NO Hand Feeds me Lady!! I EARNED EVERY DAMN THING I Get!!! Its the LIBERAL LEFT who is firing Trained Professionals from The Military!!!! NOT the GOP Its was On the Democrats and Obama's Admin that the Veterans were being DENIED Heath care and DYING because they were on A secret waiting list Bimbo!!! So Please Tell your Lies to those IDIOTS who will Listen to your rants and Praise of This IDIOTIC Administration!! Lets let in Millions of Illegals And House them in Military complex's Because We have to Help the Poor Children!! But Screw our own children that STARVE daily here daily...Lets Dismantle The Military to the Point of NOT being able to protect America in the case of A Terror attack!! AND it was THE DEMOCRATS who STALLED THE Please READ this........
the House passed legislation last month, with respective price tag of $35 billion. The new Miller proposal would not include recurring costs and instead would serve as a down payment on an expansion of services for veterans while leaving future-year spending to future appropriations processes.
House members have insisted on offsets to pay for previous reform measures, but Miller said his $10 billion plan would be paid for through emergency funding, to ease Senate objections. The Senate were up in arms!!!!!! The HOUSE wanted to pass this ITS the Democratically controlled SENATE who wanted to crush this!! You need to quit Listening to ALL that LIBERAL MSNBC LIES ... As A Vet I follow EVERYTHING that The House and Senate do for Veterans As The Sgt of Arms of The Local VFW I'm asked to keep track of any and ALL aspects of Veterans affairs coming out of Washington!!!! YOU are being FED Lies...
#13 Aug 4, 2014
I certainly don't deny your right to veterans benefits - but, I'm trying to make you understand that - if Democrats hadn't fought Republicans tooth & nail to make sure you keep getting those VETERAN' BENEFITS - you might not be getting them at all - or you would be getting a much smaller veterans benefits.
Don't you know the big reason for the recent VA scandal was lack of funding? Yes, Republicans have time & time again voted down or scaled back funding for veterans? Then, they have the audicity to try to put the blame on Democrats when there is a funding crisis at the VA.
Yes, I certainly agree with you that these VA funding increases need to be off-set with something.
And that off-set could come from - more tax dollars coming into our coffers.
Or it could come - from deep cut-backs to the most vulnerable people in our society - which would mean - taking away food, shelter & medical care from the poor, the elderly & the children.
Now, the MOST LOGICAL SOLUTION would be to do away with all the loop-holes in our tax system so wealth American comanies are not be able to take their money off-shore to avoid paying taxes in this country.
Yes, it's true America has one of the highest taxes in the world (around 38%). But, with all the loopholes - the average tax paid by huge companies is around 12%. And, many of these wealthy companies DON'T PAY ANY TAXES AT ALL!!!
So, until Republicans quit working for their wealthy benefactors (like the Koch brothers) & start working for ALL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE - we will continue on this path of not having enough money to pay our bills...
You can't make huge tax cuts, start two un-funded wars, begin an unfunded Medicare & spend money like a drunk sailer - LIKE GEORGE BUSH JR did without plunging our country into bankrupsy & near GREAT DEPRESSION LEVELS.
In case you didin't realize it - we're still trying to dig this country out of the hole Bush Jr got us into...
#14 Aug 4, 2014
It's funny to read your "republicans are at the core of all evil in the world" posts. We get your message. Democrats= Gods angels, republicans=satanic demons. You must be able to ignore history and be blind to the present problems of the world to be that brainwashed.
Be that as it may, you still haven't gave us your view of where this ole world will be like in 50 years. I'd like to know what you think it will be like.
Here is a counter dystopian view By Trent Schlictmann
I beg to differ with my colleague. Having read the futuristic accounts of William Gibson, Neal Stephenson, and Philip K. Dick, the path our future shall take will be bleak, indeedbut in a much different way.
When the ongoing trend of corporate mergers reaches critical mass in 2030, the scant handful of corporations that remain will be too powerful to resist and will ultimately supplant all government. National borders will crumble, replaced by warring corporate armies who deploy vat-grown Yakuza assassins to take down enemy CEOs in the name of commerce.
The future will be every color but graynot that the future will be worth living in. Giant videoscreen billboards will cover the exposed surface of every skyscraper, bombarding our consciousness with advertising for anything and everything. Looking up will expose us to giant orbiting mylar superscreens bearing more logos and slogans. A citizen will be unable to walk down the street without encountering roving clouds made up of billions of microscopic nanoprobes that form corporate logos right before their very eyes.
Which is not to imply that the average citizen will do much walking: When every inch of space is privatized, it will cost money to walk from your living room to the kitchen. The average citizen will spend nearly all of his waking hours neurally jacked into the futuristic grandchild of the Internet, roaming cyberspace rather than moving and interacting in the inelegant, inconvenient three-dimensional world.
When we do log off the CyberNet, the very walls of our apartments will teem with droning media messages. Tolerating such in-home advertising will be the only way the average citizen will be able to afford an apartment at all. Only the wealthiest will be able to afford a quiet, dark room in which to sleep. The rest of us will simply become desensitized to the 24 hours of stimuli attacking our minds.
All media will consist of some form of advertisingprint, audio, videowith some actually beamed directly into our brains. The theme song to every TV show will be a product jingle. Newscasters will segue straight from war reports into soft-drink pitches without batting an eye.
To the powers that be, a citizen will be no more than a potential receptacle of consumption, only as valuable as his or her electronically catalogued personal wealth. All transactions will be conducted instantaneously by retinal scan, and credit fraud will be a crime worse than murder.
#15 Aug 5, 2014
LACK of Funding?? you truly Live in Secluded world ALL to your own!! The VA problem IS Money Ill give you that!! BUT LACK of it is NOT the Problem! Missuse from Those Running The VA is where the Money has Gone.. BIG Govt and LACK of willingness to Do the right thing By the DUMBOCRATS!!! Please Take A Look!!!!
#16 Aug 5, 2014
This is from The GAO and from other inside sources!!!!
The scandal-plagued Department of Veterans Affairs is systematically overpaying clerks, administrators and other support staff, according to internal audits, draining tens of millions of dollars that could be used instead to ease the VAs acute shortage of doctors and nurses.
The jobs of some 13,000 VA support staff have been flagged by auditors as potentially misclassified, in many cases resulting in inflated salaries that have gone uncorrected for as long as 14 years.
Rather than moving quickly to correct these costly errors, VA officials two years ago halted a broad internal review mandated by federal law. As a result, the overpayments continue.
Moreover, in the two years since thousands of misclassified jobs were identified, hundreds of additional positions have been filled at improperly high salaries. Internal VA documents obtained by The Huffington Post ( A Liberal News media outlet I might add) show that between September 2013 and May 2014, for instance, overpayments in annual salaries for the latter jobs alone came to $24.4 million, not counting benefits.
In May alone, senior VA classification specialists identified 284 probably misclassified positions newly posted on the federal jobs site, USAJobs. Once filled, those jobs would result in estimated overpayments of $3.3 million per year.
For that amount of money, the VA could instead hire five neurosurgeons, 10 psychiatrists and five suicide prevention case managers at the average salaries currently offered on USAJobs.
The pattern continued in June, with more than a quarter million dollars of overpayments involving jobs at the Veterans Health Administration headquarters, according to an internal VA report...
Obama HAS the Power to Let Millions of Illegals into America with the swipe of his Pin BUT he lets Veterans FLOUNDER and DIE!! I wonder why? He could clean house but instead he plays Golf!!
#17 Aug 5, 2014
All of this UNDER Obama'
s Admin and Tenure in Office!! If you PUT your Buddies who helped you back into office (Idiots) in Posistion to run things This is what happens!!!!!
#18 Aug 8, 2014
To Guest/Virgil Caine,
You ask what my thoughts are on what the future holds 50-100 years down the line?
I just don't give much thought to what will happen in 50-100 years down the line!
And, I certainly don't waste time reading some made-up fantasy written by an author who's just trying to make a quick buck - playing with the minds of gullible people like you seem to be.
But, what I really spend a lot of time thinking about - is my soul's salvation & the souls of all the people who have rejected God & his teachings (which are found in the bible).
Since you like to read about predictions of the future - if you would pick up a bible - you'll discover things in there that will absolutely BLOW YOUR MIND!
Yes, the bible (some of which was written over 3,500 years ago)- tells us that one day in the future knowledge would increase & the Gospel would be spread throughtout the entire world.
Well, that prediction has come true. For a couple of decades we've had the internet, which is capable of spreading news clear around the world almost instantanously!.
And, did you know that the BIBLE WAS AHEAD OF SCIENCE in many areas?
Did you know, God told us the earth was round almost 3,500 years ago - long before scientists confirmed this? Centuries ago, some people believed the earth was supported on the back of a giant turtle.
And, for centuries & centuries everyone believed the earth was flat - and you could fall off the edge of it...
You need to check out my thread entitled - "Startling Scientific Facts in the Bible" on this forum. On, this thread - you will find many other scientific facts which God reveals in the bible (which were written over 3,500 years ago.
Yes, the bible gives insight how the earth, the heavens (the universe) alll works together.
The God also gave the Old Covenant to the Jews to Moses. And, in this law were very speciic medical practices such an sanitation & many vital medical practices which were not discovered by scientists for hundreds & thousands of years later...
Chances are, there are also many many other revelations in the bible of other scientific facts - that SCIENTISTS HAVE YET TO DISCOVER...
So, you need to quit wasting you time & ditch all those science fiction books & articles - and starting reading & studying something REAL & TRULY LIFE CHANGING....
GOD'S word - in the BIBLE...
#19 Aug 8, 2014
Basically, you don't care what the future holds for the young and yet unborn. As long as "you get yours" you could care less about the kids?
When you vote for these corrupted politicians who are lying to you and working to control your actions, you should think about the kids. Quit being greedy and think about someone besides yourself. When voting for pro abortion politicians, ask yourself "what would Jesus do" and act accordingly.
#20 Aug 8, 2014
It is the book of revelation not revelations.Not being offensive just thought I,d throw in a reminder.
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